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Nc splitters + different models - How to pair with customer cards?

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    Bałdyzer
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    I have such a question for experts on the topic of splitters for nc +. I know that there are different types on the market, e.g. PIC, Medium, Small, Big. Can any of you answer me because I don't want to buy blindly what client cards suit particular wire splitters. I have at home e.g. PIC splitter for 6 cards and Small splitter for 3 cards, will cards from one type of splitter, e.g. PIC be compatible with Small splitter cards?
    Are there any universal cards that can be connected to each splitter?
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    And why should they stop working in the autumn?
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    charlee
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    Bałdyzer wrote:
    And why should they stop working in the autumn?

    I don't know if in autumn, but the operator is trying to shorten the distribution of cards.
    Look in the net: "ECM counter"
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    And only the multiroom option will remain so I'll ask by the way. If you use multiroom for two additional decoders do you get from nc + two additional cards? Do such cards work in independent decoders, e.g. Ferguson Ariva or HF8900 or only in nc + company decoders? I know that multi-room costs currently 10 PLN / month, but does this fee include getting the card with a rented decoder?
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    Bałdyzer wrote:
    If you use multiroom for two additional decoders do you get from nc + two additional cards?

    I think it's logical how two decoders and two cards.
    Another NO.
    NC + offer.
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    Is there a fee for an additional company decoder at the price of PLN 10 per month for multiroom service or does it have to be paid separately?
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    mihal2002 wrote:
    Answer no.
    And give it a rest, because it will stop working in the fall.

    And how do you know that this will happen in autumn? I read a bit about this topic and there is no official information from nc + for now when Seca cards will pair. At present, only a small number of customers have made such a number, but mainly those who have exchanged their Philips decoders for newer ones, and I have PACE PVR HD.
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    mihal2002 wrote:
    Bałdyzer wrote:
    there is no official information from nc + when Seca cards are paired.

    And what is the reason for the official information?
    And no pairing of cards. You don't know anything and you write.
    Decoders are already replaced with those working only in the Nagra system. Cards will stop working in the SECA system. Some people are crying that eg Ariva or similar decoder does not work with the card.

    The end of the entire operation is expected in early autumn 2019. Your card may be another tomorrow.

    There is no need to worry about stocks, if they block me, then at the end of the contract you will have to think about changing operators
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the compatibility of NC+ splitters with various customer cards, specifically addressing the different types of splitters available in the market, such as PIC, Medium, Small, and Big. Users express concerns about the potential discontinuation of certain card types and the implications for multiroom services. There is uncertainty regarding the pairing of cards with splitters, particularly whether cards from one type can be used with another. Additionally, the conversation touches on the costs associated with multiroom services and the need for official information from NC+ regarding the future of card compatibility and decoder functionality.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Multiroom costs 10 PLN/month, and “Multiroom is PLN 10.” This FAQ clarifies nc+ splitters, card pairing, and whether independent decoders work, plus what to expect when systems change. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17230652]

Why it matters: It helps nc+ users avoid buying incompatible splitter cards and plan for Multiroom or decoder changes.

Quick Facts

Can I use PIC splitter client cards with a Small/Medium/Big splitter?

No. Forum experts answered “Answer no.” Client cards are tied to the splitter family and protocol. Mixing PIC with Small, Medium, or Big client cards will not pair. Buy cards matched to the exact splitter model and vendor. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17228093]

Are there any universal client cards that work with every nc+ splitter?

No. There are no universal client cards across PIC, Small, Medium, or Big splitters. The thread’s first direct answer is “Answer no.” Also avoid new splitter investments because “it will stop working in the fall.” [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17228093]

Why might my nc+ splitter or third‑party decoder stop working?

The operator is migrating away from SECA. “Cards will stop working in the SECA system.” They are replacing units with Nagra‑only decoders. The project’s end was “expected in early autumn 2019.” “Your card may be another tomorrow.” [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17231123]

What does “ECM counter” mean here?

A forum member reports the operator is “trying to shorten the distribution of cards” and advises searching “ECM counter” for background. Use that term when researching how operators limit card sharing. [Elektroda, charlee, post #17229397]

For Multiroom, do I receive extra cards for extra decoders?

You receive provider‑issued sets, not loose cards. “No, you get a set.” Multiroom costs about 10 PLN/month, and the hardware fee is determined by the provider. Confirm the exact rental or purchase terms on your account. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17230652]

Will Multiroom cards work in Ferguson Ariva or HF8900 receivers?

Reports say third‑party receivers may fail as systems shift. “Some people are crying that eg Ariva or similar decoder does not work with the card.” Expect operator Nagra‑only decoders to replace older setups. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17231123]

Do two decoders require two cards?

Yes. As one user put it, “two decoders and two cards.” That reflects service provisioning, not the availability of independent client cards. For how nc+ supplies hardware, check the provider’s current Multiroom offer. [Elektroda, maksar, post #17230379]

How much is Multiroom, and does that include the extra decoder?

Multiroom is 10 PLN/month. “The cost of the decoder is determined by the service provider,” so it may be separate. Ask nc+ about rental or deposit terms for each additional set. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17230652]

I use a PACE PVR HD. Will it stay compatible?

If it depends on SECA, it will stop once SECA is disabled. The operator is replacing hardware with Nagra‑only decoders. Test your card and be ready to swap if channels disappear. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17231123]

What splitter sizes are people using at home?

In this thread, a user reports a PIC splitter for 6 cards and a Small splitter for 3 cards. That illustrates the variety of families and capacities on the market. [Elektroda, Bałdyzer, post #17225192]

Should I keep buying splitter cards now?

No. The earliest answer was blunt: “Answer no.” Another warning said “it will stop working in the fall.” Avoid new splitter spend and plan for provider‑supported Multiroom instead. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17228093]

How can I quickly check if my nc+ setup will keep working?

  1. Identify your card’s system; if it’s SECA, plan a change.
  2. Check your decoder; if it’s not an operator Nagra‑only model, expect issues.
  3. If you use splitters or third‑party receivers (e.g., Ariva), move to provider Multiroom sets. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17231123]

Are nc+ cards paired to decoders?

A user states, “And no pairing of cards.” Instead, the operator is swapping to Nagra‑only decoders and ending SECA card support. The effect feels like pairing because third‑party use stops. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17231123]

Why isn’t there an official nc+ announcement about the change?

One user replies, “And what is the reason for the official information?” Reports say swaps are already happening and schedules vary. The “end of the entire operation is expected in early autumn 2019.” [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17231123]
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