smokevery day wrote: Hello
I graduated from high school and for two years I have been working on a construction site as an assistant electrician, de facto performing the same activities as other electricians in the company. If I would like to be an electrician for the Popes, I also have to graduate from some post-secondary school in the field of electrician technician (I do not want to go to university). Then I also take a journeyman course at this school? What is the situation with the master, how many years do I have to work to be able to pass him? Of course, these years do not count until now, do they?
Although the championship system continues to function, it is no longer obligatory for electricians. Rather, it is something like an additional asset when building a career towards supervision.
For a typical electrician, the currently held scope of the Group 1 qualification certificate is important. This is what it is called, and the term "SEP qualification" is a completely incorrect concept.
If you want to change the position, you need to talk to your supervisor about your willingness to change the position and find out what conditions you must meet for the employer to hire you for the position of "electrician". The employer may decide that he or she does not want to hire you in a different position, if only to avoid a change in your salary. If you work like everyone else, why should you be paid more for the same job? Sad, but it happens.
In this case, you either wait until the end of the contract and change it to another position, in agreement with the employer, or you change employer and apply for the position of an electrician. What counts for the employer will be the entitlements and skills.
smokevery day wrote:
My second question is SEPs, how is it with them, because whoever I wouldn't talk to, everyone else is different he says (and let's stick to that. Madrik) . How much does it cost and where do you have to pass it to make these papers real?
To the nearest state examination commission. Formerly, he was involved in SEP, issuing electrician licenses. Currently, every licensed examination board takes care of this, including many private centers. The easiest way is to ask the nearest Vocational Training Center or the Employment Office for a list of such committees and deadlines. Repeat every five years to extend your entitlements or earlier if you want to change their scope.
Everything is regulated legally. You submit the completed application to the commission, you pay the statutory examination fee (it changes every year, including PLN 210).
You can choose whether you want to take an additional training course (paid separately) before the exam or take the exam immediately. On the set date and time, you report to the commission and after passing the exam, you will get the documents right away - you just have to wait for them to be written out. If you have a large number of test takers, you may have to apply for them in a day or two. If you fail - everything from the beginning - application, fee, exam.
smokevery day wrote:
In December, the boss sent me to "SEP", the situation was that I entered the kajetka for 15 minutes, where one man in a shirt was sitting, we talked about the weather, he asked if I could choose the rightsecurity, he asked how much he worked in the profession, he added a year on paper and thank you goodbye. The cost of this is said to be PLN 100. I have not seen the permissions until today, apparently they do not answer the phone.
Quick, your boss won't give you permission. He paid for the training and exam. He is afraid that if he gives you your papers, you will go to another employer. If he sent you to a course, it means he had to. Probably some control got interested in it.
He probably has the documents, but he doesn't want to issue them to you and is unlikely to release them.
But there is a way - if you have any information on the commission you have heard before, you can report to it and ask for a duplicate. Because the dog ate, because it fell into the concrete, because my mother washed it in her pants ... They will get personal data and Pesel number. Your rights are registered and valid throughout the country.
If you work for private workers, the safest thing to do is to do the rights yourself, the employer only bring an invoice or bill to get reimbursement and photocopy the rights to the files. You should always have the original of the qualification certificate with you. It must not be given to someone else for safekeeping. Let him make a photocopy or a photo with his phone, but you should have the original.
smokevery day wrote:
To sum up, what is it, whether I am an electrician with SEP skills and qualifications up to 1kv and you can enter the position of an electrician in the contract or not.
You can always call yourself an electrician, even if you do not have a license. It's a free country, and you can consider yourself everyone.
However, whether someone will hire you as an electrician depends on whether you are accepted for such a position. Certainly, no one will hire you as an electrician, without having valid group 1 qualifications in the field of operation.
Make a note of all your jobs and positions, along with the exact names and details of companies and periods of work. It will be useful not only for your CV, but after many years it can be a great help in determining the capital for a retirement pension, determining the conditions of harmful work and many other matters. It is also worth keeping all work certificates and the original of invalid permissions. They are helpful for later exams when you show the examiner what qualifications you had previously.
You can also pass the first group exam in the field of supervision. But here the exam will be much more difficult, you will have to learn the regulations, because the supervisor deals with admitting people to work and takes responsibility for them. Such permissions would be required if you wanted to become, for example, a foreman, manager or just start your own company.
smokevery day wrote:
In addition to my educational problem, I would need a price list for electrical services in Silesia, because when I go for a job, I often cannot evaluate myself before work and after work I am cheated for cash. I have a certain standard hourly rate, which is the minimum I have to have on my job, otherwise it pays off to work for someone without much stress. I was looking for price lists on the Internet, but they write differently in one.
Thank you in advance for your help.
There are no official price lists. They used to be under the communist regime, now there is a free market.
Although there are some unofficial ranges of prices for services, resulting from the market situation in the area.
In the era of the free market, everyone is allowed to demand any amount for work, and each client is allowed to agree to it or not.
Basically the idea is to make the work pay off, including time, material, tools and commuting. If you earn more than you spend, you are ahead.
And how many? Unfortunately, this is a matter of the market and the number of orders. You can ask for more if you have so many customers that you can give up on those who don't agree. Good and crowded professionals charge much higher rates than the market average.
But you can also work for minimal profit if you don't have clients.
It is always worth assuming a minimum amount for a specific working time and stick to it. Having no reputation, counting on the recommendations of your friend's friends - do not expect high rates.
If you set up your own business - you can set and negotiate your own rates. Then you will quickly find out what the market situation is and how much the competition is demanding for similar work.
