FAQ
TL;DR: 10 minutes with Lexia/Diagbox and a meter can isolate the fault. "All you need is a meter and 10 minutes of time." This FAQ is for Peugeot 307 owners fixing dead horn and washers without needless BSM/BSI swaps. [Elektroda, jurekk55, post #17428737]
Why it matters: You’ll restore safety-critical horn and washer functions faster while avoiding unnecessary parts purchases.
Quick Facts
- Case vehicle: Peugeot 307 (2003) with BSM 9650664180 B2 referenced in the thread. [Elektroda, Grzesiek kaczka, #17428942]
- Control path: BSM green plug 3; horn via F13→R4→pins 7,15; washers via F14→R9/R10→pins 11,14; polarity reversing. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
- Load-testing: Use a 21W bulb to verify live feed at F13/F14 and diagnose voltage drop under load. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
- Symptom proof: Relay clicks in BSM but 0 V at horn/pump; both devices run when briefly powered directly. [Elektroda, Grzesiek kaczka, #17428495]
- Scan tip: Lexia/Diagbox confirms button commands and network signals before parts swapping. [Elektroda, jurekk55, post #17428737]
What causes horn and washer failures together on a Peugeot 307?
Shared BSM power paths fail. The horn feed uses F13 and relay R4 to pins 7 and 15. Washers use F14 and relays R9 and R10 to pins 11 and 14. If relays click but outputs stay dead, suspect fuse feed or burned contacts. Load-test fuses with a 21W bulb. Verify ground at devices and continuity from the green plug. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
Which BSM connector and pins power the horn and washer pump?
Use the green BSM plug (labeled 3). Horn power leaves via relay R4 on pins 7 and 15. The washer pump uses relay pair R9/R10 on pins 11 and 14. Both pump pins sit at ground until a command reverses polarity. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
How do I load-test BSM fuses F13 and F14?
Follow this 3-step check:
- Clip a 21W bulb between F13 output and chassis ground with ignition on.
- Repeat on F14; the bulb must light brightly each time.
- If dim or dark, fix feed to the relay or fuse contacts.
This reveals voltage drop that a multimeter can miss. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
My relay clicks but the horn is silent. What does that indicate?
A clicking relay means the coil energizes. The output may still be dead. Causes include no feed from F13 or burned relay contacts inside the BSM. Check voltage at pins 7 and 15 with a 21W bulb while pressing the horn. This is a known edge case. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
Can a bad ground on the steering wheel kill both horn and washers?
No. The steering wheel switch sends a digital command through the COM/BSI. It does not switch ground directly. The horn and washers rely on BSM outputs and device grounds. Test device grounds at the horn and pump separately. [Elektroda, andrzej20001, post #17429206]
How do I use Lexia/Diagbox to confirm the issue?
Connect Lexia/Diagbox and observe live data for horn and wash commands. Run actuator tests for horn and washer pump via BSI/BSM. “All you need is a meter and 10 minutes of time.” Confirm network commands before blaming hardware. [Elektroda, jurekk55, post #17428737]
I replaced the BSM and the washers still don't work. What next?
Stop swapping parts. In this case, three used BSMs changed nothing. Verify power at BSM pins 11 and 14 when commanding wash. Check F14 feed and connector seating on the green plug. Trace continuity from BSM to the pump. [Elektroda, Grzesiek kaczka, #17447905]
How do I verify power at the horn connector safely?
Backprobe the horn connector while pressing the horn. Expect 12 V on the feed wire. If absent, load-test the circuit. “Put a plus on the signal cable through a 21W bulb” to confirm the path to BSM. Unplug other BSM connectors during this test. [Elektroda, andrzej20001, post #17429110]
How can I bench-test the horn and washer pump?
Disconnect the device and briefly power it from the battery with fused leads. The horn should sound and the pump should run. This confirms the devices are good. Reconnect and focus on supply and control circuits. Do not run the pump dry for long. [Elektroda, Grzesiek kaczka, #17428495]
Could the wiring harness be the problem instead of electronics?
Yes. Harness damage can mimic module failure. Inspect the loom from the BSM to the horn and pump for breaks or corrosion. Flex points and front crossmember areas are common stress zones. Repair before replacing modules again. [Elektroda, pepe150, post #17429021]
Which specific fuses feed the horn and washer circuits?
Fuse F13 in the BSM feeds the horn relay R4. Fuse F14 feeds washer relays R9 and R10. Test both under load. Replace only with correct ratings. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
Why do both washer pump wires show ground when idle?
The BSM uses two relays as a polarity reverser for the pump. At rest, both pump pins sit at ground. When you command front or rear wash, one pin flips to 12 V to reverse rotation. [Elektroda, grala1, post #17429353]
No power on BSM pins 11 and 14 during wash command—what does it mean?
It means the washer H-bridge output is inactive. In the thread case, pins 11 and 14 had no power. Confirm F14 feed, check R9/R10 activation, and inspect plug seating and wiring continuity. [Elektroda, Grzesiek kaczka, #17447905]