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[Solved] Title: Combining Gmail & Onet: Configuring Email Clients for Onet Address with IMAP/SMTP Gmail

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  • #1 17453014
    ergie
    Level 28  
    Hi

    I have an e-mail address on the internet and it's full of spam, and what's worse, there are e-mails with attachments - viruses / zip. I read on the net that I can connect the onet box to gmail and I managed to do it, it imported nicely.

    Via the website on gmail there is an option to change the sender, but I don't know if I can configure my email client to still use the onet address, but as imap / smtp gmail ..
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    #2 17461385
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    OIP is that "hook-up" where gmail 'has the power' (and login credentials) - to send mail on behalf of an online sender - and that's all there is to it. Once upon a time, a couple of years ago, we had many cases of such "miraculous linking of Google accounts" and linking them by unaware employees (e.g. concern for the confidentiality of correspondence).
    We didn't have to wait too long for the effects (the unpleasant ones) ...

    If this time you write about a similar mechanism - unfortunately, but it cannot be done as you would like.
    But, since you only meant (if I understood correctly) "safer" e-mail - in terms of filtering potentially unwanted (and dangerous) content, maybe I would suggest you use a much better e-mail client (than any Outlook solutions). that is Thunderbird. It has quite large possibilities of filtering e-mail through multiple filters, and even without doing anything, it distinguishes the "wanted" and "liked" one from the "unwanted" spam mail. It remembers your personal decisions here, which also increases the accuracy of its filters. And at the same time, it gives the ability to block unwanted and even disable inline display of attachments, which you probably also meant.

    best regards
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    #3 17461497
    myszkoscielna
    Level 23  
    ergie wrote:
    can I configure my email client to still use onet address, but as imap / smtp gmaila


    A few years ago, gmail allowed you to send an e-mail from the gmail client as zzz(_at_)onet.pl as you were able to 'prove' that you have access to the mailbox, zzz2onet.pl.
    But it didn't work until the end, gmail was making a sender spoof, the recipient knew that it went through gmail, because 'via gmail' was visible, there was probably a message at the recipient.
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    #4 17461503
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    There were a lot of problems with this, especially after some forcing the correct (RFC-compliant) SPF configurations at the main providers, it boiled a bit in "dovebniki" :) ...
    But that's all in the past.

    However, if my colleague (the author) wanted only to increase security - I would suggest changing [configuration] of the mail client. Because linking one mailbox (one account) to another in one way or another - is always burdened with a certain 'security risk' (greater or less - it depends on what is sent to this e-mail, and to whom), but still. And since Murphy's laws seem to love especially 'people in need', so when he has to screw up something, it usually happens when it is super needed and a lot will depend on it. And then having separate mailboxes with independent providers turns out to make a lot of sense ...
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  • #5 17461908
    ergie
    Level 28  
    Hi, thank you at the beginning for your interest in the topic

    - I have an account on onet, I set up a mailbox on gmail
    - On gmail I added an external online account and gmail downloaded all the messages I received and sent
    - In thunderbird I created a gmail account (via imap)
    - after downloading the message to the computer, I edited the email address from gmail and changed it to onet

    This is the way I have messages that are filtered by gmail servers, some messages have not been downloaded because the gmail group has blocked the download of dangerous content / attachments (this is the info on my email inbox). When I send an e-mail to someone, there is an onet address.

    Everything has been working for 3 days without a problem, if it works, I will change the rest of the people, because they clicked such a zip by mistake and there were big problems with data recovery (it's good that there was a copy :)

    I will add some filter to Thunderbird, can you recommend something?
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    #6 17462188
    markooff
    E-Commerce-Betreuer
    You know what, I don't use any extra extensions, I just modify the native settings (if necessary)
    Basically I do this because:
    1) we do content filtering on the server side (in one of the companies where we have our own - open source mechanisms, such as heavily tuned assassin spam ii)
    2) because I have had a Thunderbird for a long time (several years) so I managed to "teach him what I don't like" and he filters it 50-60% flawlessly.
    3) The remaining 40% are junk messages (those that are written in accordance with the RFC (headers) and syntax in Polish and pass many spam filters - here Thunderbird helps me because a) it does not display attachments by default, but only informs that they are (and allows opening but it's the ears to open them personally)
    b) if I mark an e-mail as spam once - it will be done automatically
    - (I have created a rule in the configuration) it goes to the SPAM folder
    each next e-mail from this account will not even remain in INBOX and will be automatically transferred to SPAM
    This, combined with a rather aggressive antivirus - a lot this year's bitdefender
    (and some colleagues even say that too much) pays attention to phishing attempts or malware in general

    Maybe these are not very sophisticated solutions - and maybe my colleagues will suggest something else - but to me personally
    to work as a security and network application engineer - so far they are enough.

    for more clarity - I'm throwing a screen from my Grzmotoptak configuration (junk-email filtering issues):
    Title: Combining Gmail & Onet: Configuring Email Clients for Onet Address with IMAP/SMTP Gmail

    best regards

    UPD: One more thing - from an industry point of view - I don't do this for all accounts. I have (s) have (s) special accounts where, on the contrary, not only that we do not filter anything, but we even collect all the SPAM that comes to them and we even tried with my colleagues that they were on as many "mailing" lists as possible so that they appeared in many dangerous places. These are the accounts where we collect all potential SPAM in order to classify it later and teach our heuristic and anti-spam mechanisms. That kind of honey pot. :)
    But, of course, we don't handle such accounts normally (read - we don't read with Thunderbird.). And at least not often and we do not click on every better attachment - unless it is a virtual machine created specifically for "accident" tests)

    best regards
  • #7 18176256
    ergie
    Level 28  
    It worked fine for a while, but then onet started blocking connections, sending mail, and every now and then the mail just didn't work. I gave up on this idea. Thank you for your help.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around configuring an Onet email address to work with Gmail using IMAP/SMTP settings. The user initially faced issues with spam and potential viruses in their Onet inbox and sought to utilize Gmail's filtering capabilities. They successfully imported emails from Onet to Gmail and configured Thunderbird as an email client. The user was able to send emails from their Onet address through Gmail, benefiting from Gmail's spam filtering. However, they later encountered connectivity issues with Onet, leading to the abandonment of this setup. Recommendations included using Thunderbird for enhanced filtering and security, as well as modifying native settings for better spam management.
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