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Best Mini-Oven vs Mid-Range Microwave: Large Dish Fit, Baking Quality, Hot Air & Interior Lighting

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  • #1 17606844
    piokrza
    Level 27  
    I want it to fit a large heat-resistant dish as they are for baking, e.g. lasagna casseroles and a baking sheet like a standard one in a 55-liter free-standing cooker, but I don't need such a capacity either. I just want the quality and effectiveness of baking to be the same. Currently, I use the oven in the Mastercook KC 2428SB DYN kitchen in a configuration with "up-down" heaters only, sometimes I use the grill heater at the top for baking or quick heating. I've never had the opportunity to use the hot air, and I see that some models offer it. Is it somehow better or more economical? I also see that mini-ovens usually do not have the interior lighting that I need, and the interior itself is made not of enamel but of some kind of silver sheet, which does not resemble stainless steel. I'm also thinking about a microwave with convection and a grill, if it would be good enough to successfully replace the above oven, I would be willing to invest in it.
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  • #2 17606895
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #3 17606903
    piokrza
    Level 27  
    Any specific, proven models?
  • #4 17607206
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    It also gives advice, but you have to remember that the heater in such a microwave is only on the top. Unfortunately, I don't know how the thermocouple works in them.
    I'm looking for a convection microwave and haven't seen one in a long time.
    My old Samsung RE1100 has a classic system - the upper heater for the grill, the rear heater (with a fan) for convection. When the rear got a break, I switched the fan to the control of the upper one and the "pseudocirculation" has been working for several years with a good result. :)
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  • #5 17608500
    djbmw
    Level 9  
    Samsung still leads the way in this area. A good solution is the combination of a microwave oven and a built-in oven, which is offered only by Samsung. The downside is the price and small size, but probably not many people bake several sheets of cake at once.
  • #6 17608545
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #7 17608598
    misiek1111
    Level 36  
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    The rest of the options are always unnecessary gibberish

    Not necessarily. In the microwave, it is worth having automatic defrosting and Crisp plate. Without it, you have to use the tables from the manual, or "microwave" on the feel.
    With automation, you program 'what goes in' and 'how much does it weigh'. The rest - time and power - is set by the controller. For me, without these functions, the microwave would be annoying to use.
  • #8 17608808
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    I use a thermocouple for heating. Often also for baking, but I bake meat rather without. Except in the glove.
    I would delete the microwave I have a microwave with a grill (without convection) but I use it basically only when I want to bake cheese on one slice. And I can't imagine using it even if it had a thermo as an oven.
    And indeed, the advantage of a good microwave is the defrosting mode.
  • #9 17608839
    piokrza
    Level 27  
    Can anyone tell me what brand or model they recommend?
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  • #10 17608868
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Tommy82 wrote:
    And I can't imagine using it even if it had a thermo as an oven.
    And I've been roasting pork and poultry for over 25 years. RE1100 is unbreakable, except for the wear of the heater.
    If they were still making them, I would recommend the author of the text without hesitation and buy another one myself.
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  • #12 17608892
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    You probably roast whole turkeys, I have portions for 6 man-days from one roast :)
  • #13 17608923
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    @vodiczka
    Well, let me tell you, it barely fits in my turkey ;) . But it just happens to me sometimes.
  • #14 17610744
    antek1cza
    Level 31  
    Hello
    At the very beginning, I am asking impulsive people (although the information is generally intended for the author of this topic, i.e. @piokrza ) to read my post to the end and if you want and if you can, look at the links.
    I see that no one has mentioned a rather important aspect that is also present in this topic "microwaves".
    piokrza wrote:
    I'm also considering a microwave
    I will say this: I advise against heating this type of method.
    Excerpts from this topic:

    1. Microwave food - slow death at your own request

    2. THE MICROWAVE OVEN AND ITS HARMFULNESS, OR FROM CARACTAL TO CANCER

    3. Why are microwave ovens so dangerous? Expert's opinion https://jarek-kefir.org/2014/03/12/dlatego-kuchenki-mikrofalowe-sa-tak-grozne-opinia-mistrza/

    4. Scientists about the harmfulness of microwave ovens https://xebola.wordpress.com/2016/03/13/naukowcy-o-szkodliwosci-mikrofalowek/

    My guess is that supporters of microwave ovens will also find materials supporting this type of action.
    However, I believe that it is also worth using common sense in life, and this is different.
    I mean like a friend @piokrza it doesn't matter that there are microwaves to heat his food because the arguments for it are more convincing for him, it's ok - his choice and I don't want to argue with that.

    As a curiosity that practically everyone can try out, there is an experiment involving watering two similar plants with the only difference that:
    a) one water was boiled on an electric stove,
    b) the second water was boiled in a microwave oven.
    Both waters were cooled and potted plants were watered with them.
    Water from the microwave was poured into the left pot and water from the electric cooker was poured into the right pot.
    The difference can be seen in the picture below (info from http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news107_microwave.html )
    Best Mini-Oven vs Mid-Range Microwave: Large Dish Fit, Baking Quality, Hot Air & Interior Lighting

    At the end, I wanted to insert a photo from the end of the 19th century, when the possibility of taking X-ray photos was discovered, but I did not find this article quickly (if I find it, I will post it).
    The photo shows a sitting patient, next to a standing doctor who put a large X-ray machine to him in order to take a picture.
    Characteristic in this event was the fact that there was no shield against this radiation.
    At that time, it was not known about its harmfulness, so X-ray equipment produced large doses of X-rays.
    Did it prevent then "scientific authorities" from saying that it is a very good method of showing the condition of our bones?
    Irradiation doesn't hurt!
    They did not mind such statements and thinking.
    By this I mean that the authorities are not always right and science is ALL the time developing-learning.

    I greet everyone wishing you a lot of health :)
  • #15 17610802
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #16 17610873
    antek1cza
    Level 31  
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    However, I will remain guided by knowledge in the field of physics
    Well, dear friend, we have two physics! One supporting the other not microwave.
    I'm just pointing this out to a colleague @piokrza .
  • #17 17610966
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #18 17611015
    bodziot
    Level 21  
    antek1cza wrote:
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    However, I will remain guided by knowledge in the field of physics
    Well, dear friend, we have two physics! One supporting the other not microwave.
    I'm just pointing this out to a colleague @piokrza .
    do you vaccinate children? As for the oven, I recommend the option of baking with steam, I discovered it in my oven after 6 years of use, I've been using it for two and now I can't imagine baking meat without this function. Hot air circulation is also very useful, e.g. for browning food.
  • #19 17611045
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #20 17611166
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    antek1cza wrote:
    Water from the microwave was poured into the left pot and water from the electric cooker was poured into the right pot.
    The difference can be seen in the photo below
    Have you repeated this experience yourself? When you repeat it, you will see how much internet-based non-knowledge is worth :)
  • #21 17611172
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #22 17611223
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    But why would someone heat the water to water the flowers?
    Did you read post #14 :?: If you read it, you deserve the title "Hard Thinker", if you haven't read it, read it. :D
  • #23 17611226
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    antek1cza wrote:

    Water from the microwave was poured into the left pot and water from the electric cooker was poured into the right pot.

    And how will your friend explain the difference?
    I bet that a flower watered with boiled water in any way will grow like the one on the left.
  • #24 17611231
    piokrza
    Level 27  
    I'd rather opt for a mini oven CAMRY CR 6018 35L or First Austria FA 5043-1 30L but rather the first one due to the capacity, although I do not know if the lack of "only bottom" and "only top" heating options is not a downside here. In turn, the second one has, according to the descriptions, a chamber with such dimensions that a heat-resistant dish or a metal sheet that I have will fit into the "contact", also the height of the chamber is only 26cm and the first one is 2cm higher ...
  • #25 17611250
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #26 17611268
    piokrza
    Level 27  
    Even this morning I ordered the CAMRY CR 6018 35L model on electro.pl, but I canceled the order because I noticed that they offer larger versions at a price ... PLN 2-3 higher. Now I'm wondering between the CAMRY CR 111 45L and CAMRY CR 6007 45L models, these also have a higher power of 2000W (vs 1500W in the predecessors), maybe it's better if it heats up faster, but I don't know if I need that big. There is 55L in the Mastercook oven and it's too big for me, but also to keep a safe distance between the grill/plates and the heaters, it can't be too small.
  • #27 17611304
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    But I know they were both chilled. But why cook it before watering? Maybe a gardener can explain

    You have confirmed that you think hard :) you quoted yourself:
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:
    after the food is taken out of the cooker, a rapid cooling process occurs as a result of the physical striving of matter to achieve a minimum energy state. The electrons of the excited atoms return to the proper energy shells, making jumps by one or two shells. At this moment, quanta of Gamma radiation are emitted, which is the most penetrating. Consuming such food, we expose ourselves from the inside to Gamma radiation and ionization of the atoms of our own body.
    The author of the experiment (in my opinion, the same forger as the presenters of PM on YT) in order to maintain the appearance of a scientific experiment, heated both portions of water to the same temperature, one in the microwave and the other traditionally, but probably did not cool the first to room temperature :)
  • #28 17611320
    piokrza
    Level 27  
    However, the above are missing due to the lack of lighting in the chamber. So I return to the starting point and consider the compromise between the first two models.
  • #29 17611327
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the comparison between mini-ovens and mid-range microwaves, particularly focusing on their capacity to fit large heat-resistant dishes, baking quality, and features like hot air circulation and interior lighting. Users express a preference for models that can accommodate standard baking sheets and emphasize the importance of effective baking performance. The Mastercook KC 2428SB DYN is mentioned as a current oven in use, with users exploring alternatives that include convection microwaves and mini-ovens. Recommendations for specific models include the Samsung RE1100, CAMRY CR 6018, CAMRY CR 111, and CAMRY CR 6007, with discussions on their heating capabilities and design features. Concerns about the potential health risks of microwave cooking are also raised, alongside the benefits of steam baking and hot air circulation in ovens.
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