Replacing Ravaglioli KPS306 Two-Column Lift: Maha or Nussbaum for Heavy Cars?

Hello, if there is a more appropriate department then please moderate the topic.

In my workshop I have 2 channels, and 3 lifts 4 column scissor and two-column Ravaglioli KPS306 3200kg on a subframe which I would like to replace (if anyone was interested please write 2011).



I decided on this lift because I didn't have a proper foundation for a frameless lift.

I want to change this jack because cars are getting heavier I often lift e.g. w212 almost 2T and something like X5, I prefer to lift Touareq on others, because the fact that this jack will lift such cars but is quite unstable, the additional frame causes the car to shake and I would like to overcome this effect .

At the moment I have a 30cm deep reinforced concrete foundation poured and I would like to install another frameless two-column lift and here I have a few questions:

- Should you consider screw or hydraulic jacks? For example, I would like a Maha or Nussbaum lift and have not seen that they have two-column hydraulic and also produce 4 and 5 tonnes

-Do you consider used lifts whether it makes sense or can be
register such a lift from abroad in UDT?

- I would like a minimum 3.5T the lift will have to lift and Tico and X5 Vito etc., 4 and 5 ton lifts have longer arms and I'm afraid there may be too long arm spacing to lift smaller cars, e.g. BMW has very narrowly spaced lifting feet that my ravaglioli n had to be on
shoulders maximally extended.

-Does anyone make heavier 2.5t cars on maha, nussbaum or frameless ravaglioli, how do you do it or take 4, 5 tons rather?


I have these types:

MAHA ECON III 3000 KG

MAHA ML2C-45E 01

Ravaglioli KPN345WELIK

Ravaglioli KPX337WK

Nussbaum 2.40 SL

Nussbaum Power Lift HL 2.30 NT

OMCN 199 / ALFA

STENHOJ MAESTRO 32CF-08

WERTHER 300s

Maha seem to me the most solidly made (after all Germany) Is there any representative of this brand in Poland, there are no new ones on the website.

Thank you and best regards

I have now ordered ATH comfort lift 2.40X Asym.

Added after 2 [minutes]:

I was struggling with the same problem of lifting smaller and larger cars

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

For example, I would like a Maha or Nussbaum company lifter and I didn't see them having two-column hydraulic and they also produce 4 and 5 tonnes

They have on offer but the price of the new 5T breaks out of the shoes

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

can such a lift from abroad be registered in UDT?

Can be. If you buy a lift with documentation, you must translate it, but you can ask the manufacturer / distributor to send documentation for the lift. The procedure is the same as if you brought a truck with a loading lift from abroad.

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

Maha seem to me the most solidly made (after all Germany) Is there any representative of this brand in Poland, there are no new ones on the website.

Is in Poland. www.maha.pl


I bought in Germany 2 pieces (screw) from the IVECO website with full technical documentation. One 5ton, the other 6.5 tonnes. They sold because the necessity to replace the support nuts was approaching. Cap costs 100-150 euros each.
The quality of workmanship is great for me. Very massive, stable lifts - look at the feet, prams and paws. I did not measure the thickness of the column profile exactly but they are 15-20mm (I can check) What is very important the carts are mounted on bearings not on sliding plates. 6.5T weighs 1420kg and 5T 1250kg Both legs are extendable in three lengths (symmetrical, i.e. the same length). They have a "bowl" for oil for spindle lubrication. Every now and then you add oil and peace. I leave it 6.5 ton for myself and 5ton I want to sell because I don't need two and I had to buy it in the package.

To illustrate the photo:

6500kg


and here 5000kg


Friends work on Techwar TC0012 - 5ton lifts and don't complain. Service and availability of parts is very good. The new one costs PLN 12,800. Look at the massiveness of Techwar and Maha. I prefer used Maha or Nussbaum but I was only interested in 5ton.


PS. I was looking for a Nussbaum POWER LIFT HL 2.60 stimulant with broken paws but it is very hard to hit such a stimulant.

pp_pablo, thank you very much for your reply

I did not even think about such a twist, spider but interesting equipment when it comes to the possibility of spacing arms.

All the time I have questions:

-Is hydraulic or screw, in hydraulic there is no problem with nuts, etc.

-Do you buy 3.5t or larger, e.g. 5t like yours from the pictures, I really like it, I'm interested in whether the 5t behaves much better under the pressure of a 2.5Ton car compared to 3.5T, I'm afraid that the 5T has wider shoulders and it can be a problem to catch e.g. BMW E46. Yet another grazing like yours like your photos.

-I see that much better companies produce jacks where the poles are at an angle to the car being lifted, I wonder why this solution is affecting stability, e.g. the new Maha also has

- Until now I had a hoist straight as a wire, the columns were connected by a chain and there were no problems with synchronization, and I stretched the chain maybe 2 times, I am interested in what problems can be expected associated with the synchronization of columns or there are rather no such.

Another lift I would like with a free space between the poles and I see that some screw have wires in the floor under the "step" and the hydraulic ones almost all have lock cables, are they hydraulic without such "inconvenience"?

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

-Is hydraulic or screw, in hydraulic there is no problem with nuts, etc.

What who likes. As many supporters as opponents. The hydraulics work even in old forklifts so there is nothing to be afraid of.

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

-Do you buy 3.5t or larger, e.g. 5t?

I am playing with buses and I approached it this way. The bus weighs on average 2 to 2.5 tons. The lifting capacity of the 5T jack, i.e. 1250kg on one frame. So even if I set the car wrong and pulled the engine with the box, for example, the lift should be stable. It was also important for me that the trolleys were on bearings and not sliding plates, that they would not be wedged - and this is possible with a poor distribution of masses on the paws.
That's why I leave myself 6.5T I can even lift a loaded bus.

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

-I see that much better companies produce jacks where the poles are at an angle to the car being lifted, I wonder why this solution is affecting stability, e.g. the new Maha also has

Two-column lifts with free passage are reportedly mounted in a delicate V letter. This can be achieved with stainless steel underlays between the floor and the foot. It's best to have a lift book, it will be written there.

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

what problems can be expected associated with the synchronization of columns or rather there are none.

There are sensors and electronics here. It's not pure trouble-free mechanics.

Marcin_ca1 wrote:

Another lift I would like with a free space between the poles and I see that some screw have wires in the floor under the "step" and the hydraulic ones almost all have lock cables, are they hydraulic without such "inconvenience"?

I don't know what it's like in plumbers. In screw with electronic synchronization, the cables between the columns can be connected with the top (bow) or as you think before and you can calculate well with the conduit in the floor. Nussbaum did a plumber with separate pumps in each column electronically synchronized. Don't ask about the price, very fat.

pp_pablo strong price for tan submitter 5t?

gromki1 wrote:

pp_pablo what price for this 5t lift?

Price at PW. Read and write back, I don't like unanswered questions

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