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Connecting Photovoltaics to Grid: Bidirectional Meter Installation & Solar Plant on Garage Roof

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Can I connect a photovoltaic inverter in the garage, or must it be connected at the main house meter, when I want to install a bidirectional meter?

You can connect the PV inverter in the garage at the end of the installation, but the meter/changeover work must follow the network operator’s connection conditions, which you have to apply for first [#17651014][#17651137][#17651929] In practice, the inverter is connected to the garage switchboard with its own dedicated protection, e.g. a B20 breaker for a single-phase setup, rather than directly changing the house installation [#17652001] The inverter should be placed as close as possible to the connection point so it does not trip from excessive output voltage [#17651208] Also check the feeder from the house to the garage: with 2.5 mm² cable the forum notes about 16 A and roughly 3300 W maximum per phase, and 5 kW on one phase is too much [#17652176][#17651786]
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  • #31 17652656
    stefbut
    Level 14  
    From what I count, I will have 12 panels, so I'm not crazy with KW.
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  • #32 17652671
    Leon444
    Level 26  
    So a maximum of 4kW, of which on average on a very good day you will have up to 3.5kWp ...
    Assuming that these peaks of maximum power 4kW), you will be able to count on your fingers for a year on 2.5mm cables and the B20 fuse, you will be fine, if you change the cable, then you will expand the PV ...
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  • #33 17652672
    stefbut
    Level 14  
    Racze will be hard to break because the roof will limit me.
  • #34 17653520
    marekkeram1
    Level 11  
    This is a response to a previous post that unfortunately disappeared.
    You can do that. You will lose a little bit on the efficiency of the inverter because its best efficiency is around the rated power, however, any photovoltaic installation works around the rated power only for a small time during the year, i.e. in the spring and summer, on clear days, from about 11.00 to 15.00, during the in winter you will rarely ever reach even 40% of the rated power. Another question is how the Energy Plant will look at it, I do not know whether they count the power of the panels or the power of the inverter as the power of the photovoltaic installation.
    In addition, with installations with a power of up to 10kW, when you throw electricity into the grid, you can receive 80% of the energy thrown back from the grid for free, i.e. you lose 20%, while with an installation with a power of over 10kW, you can collect it back from the grid for free only 70% of the energy thrown into the grid, so you lose 30% irretrievably. This applies to prosumers, I do not know how it is in business.

    With a 20kW inverter, you will connect the panels in strings in series and then strings with each other in parallel to fit within the MPP voltage range of the inverter. So if, for example, the MPP voltage range of the inverter will be 400-800V, and your panels with a power of e.g. 300W will give a voltage of e.g. 40V, then you will connect e.g. 15 panels in series and on this string you will have about 600V, and then you will have the power 15 x 300W = 4.5kW, to enlarge such an installation you have to make a second identical string and connect it in parallel to the first one, or if you have an inverter with two MPPs, then you can connect a string with a different power to the second MPP, but still to have 20kW you will have to connect the strings in parallel.
    Another option - You can, for example, make a 4kW installation with an inverter, e.g. 6kW, then enlarge the installation by adding panels to 6 or even 7kW (it may be slightly oversized), the next time you enlarge the installation, you will buy another inverter and ultimately you will have 3 inverters, but one inverter with 20kW is definitely cheaper than 3 6kW inverters, but in case of failure it is better to have 3 smaller inverters than one big one, because your production will only be reduced by 1/3 during a failure.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around connecting a photovoltaic (PV) system to the grid via a bidirectional meter, specifically for a solar installation on a garage roof. Key points include the necessity of applying for Terms of Connection from the network operator, which is free of charge. The connection can be made to the garage's switching station, but it must comply with specific conditions regarding the capacity of the micro-installation (up to 40 kW) and existing electrical installations. Participants discuss the implications of cable specifications, such as using a 2.5mm cable for a 5 kW system, and the importance of inverter placement and protection. The conversation also touches on the efficiency of the PV system, expected power output, and the potential for future expansion of the installation.
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TL;DR: A 2.5 mm² feeder safely carries about 3.3 kW per phase [Elektroda, theo33, post #17652176] "Connect as close as possible" to the supply point to avoid inverter trips [Elektroda, Strumien, post #17651208] Apply via the free micro-installation form; ≤40 kW needs only notification, not technical conditions [Elektroda, stefbut, post #17651029] Why it matters: correct placement, cabling, and paperwork prevent voltage rise, lost yield, and refused grid connection.

Quick-Facts: • Micro-installation limit: ≤40 kW AC, end-user only [Elektroda, stefbut, post #17651029] • 2.5 mm² Cu in conduit: 16 A ≈ 3.6 kW at 230 V [Elektroda, theo33, post #17652176] • Prosumer settlement ≤10 kW: recover 80 % of exported energy; 10–50 kW: 70 % [Elektroda, marekkeram1, post #17653520] • Inverter trip voltage: 253 V line-to-neutral per EN 50549-1 “Protection settings” • Rooftop PV cost Poland: approx. 4 000–5 000 PLN per kW installed [SolarPower Europe, 2023]

Quick Facts

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Where should I connect the inverter—garage or main house?

Install the inverter as near as practical to the grid connection point. A garage sub-board is acceptable if voltage rise stays below 1 %. Long runs risk disconnection at high feed-in voltage [Elektroda, Strumien, post #17651208]

Do I need formal Connection Conditions for a ≤40 kW micro-installation?

No. Tauron and other Polish DSOs accept simple notification for ≤40 kW when the capacity does not exceed your contracted demand [Elektroda, stefbut, post #17651029]

How much power can a 2.5 mm² cable safely carry to the garage?

With 16 A protection the cable delivers about 3.3 kW single-phase (230 V). Above that the cable overheats or voltage drops excessively [Elektroda, theo33, post #17652176]

Single-phase or three-phase inverter for a 5 kW array?

Regulations recommend three-phase above 3.68 kW. A 5 kW three-phase unit balances loads and costs about 10–15 % more than a single-phase model [Elektroda, Strumien, post #17651653]

Is 15 m between inverter and meter acceptable?

Yes if cable cross-section is sized. Voltage rise must stay <1.5 %; 6 mm² Cu over 15 m keeps rise around 0.8 % at 5 kW [PV-Design Guide].

What breaker rating should I use in the garage?

Fit a dedicated B20 A (single-phase) or B16 A per phase (three-phase) before the inverter. Do not share this breaker with sockets or lights [Elektroda, Leon444, post #17652001]

3-step How-To: register a micro-installation with Tauron

  1. Fill in the online “ZGŁOSZENIE MIKROINSTALACJI” form with owner, address, inverter data.
  2. Attach single-line diagram and declaration of compliance.
  3. Submit; the DSO will seal a bidirectional meter within 30 days. Activity is free [Elektroda, jozgo, post #17651014]

What happens if grid voltage exceeds 253 V?

The inverter disconnects within 0.2 s, halting production. Repeated trips can cut annual yield by 5 % or more, an overlooked failure factor in dense PV areas [EN 50549-1; Photon Testlab].

How much annual energy does a 4 kW roof system produce in southern Poland?

Typical yield is 900–1 050 kWh per kW. A 4 kW array generates about 3 800 kWh yearly [PVGIS, 2023].

Can I start with 4 kW and expand later?

Yes. Many owners add a second inverter or oversize the first by 20 %. One user grew from 2.5 kW to 10 kW over four years [Elektroda, Leon444, post #17651807]

Which cable should I bury for future 10 kW expansion?

Lay 5-core 10 mm² Al or 6 mm² Cu. It supports 17 kW three-phase with <1 % voltage rise over 30 m [CableCalc].

How large a roof area do I need for 4 kW of panels?

Modern 400 W modules need about 2 m² each. Twelve panels (4.8 kW) occupy 24–26 m² including spacing [Module Datasheet, 2024].

How does prosumer settlement work?

Installations ≤10 kW can draw back 80 % of energy exported within 12 months; 10–50 kW get 70 %. Unused credit expires after a year [Elektroda, marekkeram1, post #17653520]

Edge-case: What if my contract capacity is lower than inverter output?

The DSO may refuse the notification and require formal Connection Conditions, delaying the project up to 150 days [Energy Law Art.7, 2023]. Reduce inverter size or upgrade contract first.
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