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Understanding the Qualifications for PV On-grid Installations: UDT and E Certificate 1kV

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  • #1 18412841
    Tetri
    Level 6  
    Hello.
    I would like to know what it is like with the permission to install PV On-grid installations. I deal with the assembly of installations for a certain company where papermaking, projects, etc. are performed by the management.
    And since I have friends who want micro-installations, I would like to simply do everything for them on my own.
    I have a UDT certificate for a PV installer and a Qualification Certificate E up to 1kV

    What electrical qualifications should I have to be able to connect to the network and submit applications to the operator in peace?
    On the Energy website I have not found any specific information on this subject, but I guess it is an individual matter for the operator. Well, but I'm thinking of doing E + Measurements

    Second point.
    The operator must attach to the connection application
    Quote:
    a diagram of the electrical installation of the facility showing the method of connecting the micro-installation with the place where the parties' ownership is marked, signed by the installer


    Could I draw such a diagram myself or do I have to outsource it to someone entitled to such projects?

    Thank you in advance for your help.
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    #2 18412898
    3301
    Level 34  
    Tetri wrote:
    Hello.
    I would like to know what it is like with the permission to install pv On-grid installations. I deal with the assembly of installations for a certain company where papermaking, projects, etc. are performed by the management.
    And since I have friends who want micro-installations, I would like to simply do everything for them on my own.
    I have a UDT Pv Installer Certificate and Sep E up to 1kv

    What electrical qualifications should I have to be able to connect to the network and submit applications to the operator in peace?
    On the Energy website I have not found any specific information on this subject, but I guess it is an individual matter for the operator. Well, but I'm thinking of doing E + Measurements

    Second point.
    The operator must attach to the connection application
    Quote:
    a diagram of the electrical installation of the facility showing the method of connecting the micro-installation with the place where the parties' ownership is marked, signed by the installer


    Could I draw such a diagram myself or do I have to outsource it to someone entitled to such projects?

    Thank you in advance for your help.



    And that's enough
    and by the way, where did you get this certificate ......
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    #3 18413049
    noja102
    Level 24  
    You have everything you need and even more, on the application for connecting the micro installation to the network, you can enter the number: up: SEP or UDT RES. You can even draw a diagram by hand on a regular sheet of paper.

    "3301" UDT OZE PV exam here https://www.udt.gov.pl/c certacja-instalatorow-oze
    Moderated By Topolski Mirosław:

    There is no SEP qualification is the Qualification Certificate issued by the SEP or another authorized examination board

  • #4 18413196
    Tetri
    Level 6  
    Thank you for the good news

    "3301" - I finished my technical studies in the field of RES, from where I could obtain this certificate in a slightly easier way.

    Now, I only wonder about one thing. Since I do not have my own business, I will probably be bad at receiving funding from "My Electricity" for these installations.
    The applications require invoices for the installation and purchase of panels. Apparently, as a natural person, I could issue an invoice for the assembly. I just wonder how they will treat it ...
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  • #5 18416806
    Bemx2k
    Level 11  
    Hello

    Do any of you know how much a certified connection of 30 panels + 2x inverter to the meter + reception can cost?

    Assuming that he will attach these panels to the structure on the ground (you do not need to have extra skills for this)
    I have 2 inverters.
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  • #6 18420069
    tom.pk
    Level 16  
    Tetri wrote:
    Thank you for the good news

    "3301" - I finished my technical studies in the field of RES, from where I could obtain this certificate in a slightly easier way.

    Now I only wonder about one thing. Since I do not have my own business, I will probably be bad at receiving funding from "My Electricity" for these installations.
    The applications require invoices for the installation and purchase of panels. Apparently, as a natural person, I could issue an invoice for the assembly. I just wonder how they will treat it ...

    You do not need an invoice for assembly, you only need invoices for the purchase.
  • #7 18467980
    tukan555
    Level 12  
    Does anyone have a model protocol for electrical measurements for photovoltaics.
    I mean measurements of the earthing system and RCDs.
    Exactly, I mean such protocols that should be delivered to the energy company, such as submitting a ready-made micro-installation to be connected to the network.
  • #8 18468140
    3301
    Level 34  
    No protocols, at least Tauron, are not required and are not provided, and if the inspector or investor needs it, the same as for other devices or electrical installations
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  • #9 18743496
    tukan555
    Level 12  
    I have already made the appropriate certificate so I can initial such PV installations :-) ).
    I also make electrical diagrams needed to connect the installation to the network
  • #10 18743814
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    You don't need any permissions. There are fields in the application forms that you do not need to fill in, so do not fill them out. There is no legal basis for claiming eligibility.
    I have been asking about the legal basis for several years. Half of the respondents do not understand the question and cite the regulations of private companies or a sample form. The other half do not read and understand the text of the law or regulation.
  • #11 18743866
    kosmos99
    Level 38  
    If someone is in no hurry to join, you can have fun ... The answer at PGE is up to 30 days, usually in which the ball is bounced and another 30 days
  • #12 18743929
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    In Enea ZG they did not hit the ball and took it right away. Without any powers. I also translated the English-language certificates and technical cards downloaded from the Internet by myself, without a sworn translator.
  • #13 18747704
    tukan555
    Level 12  
    In my opinion, it is necessary for someone with even electrical qualifications to initial some installations or other installations, because people have no idea. They can make such mistakes that if the hair stands on end it is often dangerous.

    In the PGE form, you need to fill in one item of who did it for the submission of PV micro-installations. Whether building qualifications, SEP or installer certificate.
  • #14 18748192
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    In print, you DON'T need to fill in the positions with permissions. We fill the field who did it. Leave the "permissions" field blank. Usually old people, when they see the form, feel compelled to fill in all the fields. Why?
  • #15 19113290
    buli117
    Level 11  
    I have an electrician with a qualification certificate, item 2, photo and Energa wrote back that the installer does not have the appropriate qualifications.
  • #16 19113398
    studniarz
    Level 20  
    Hello friend.
    Maybe this 2 point has the answer in the first word ...... "important" means current because probably every 5 years you need to renew ...
    But I'm probably wrong ...
    Greetings.
  • #17 19113464
    wello
    Level 20  
    Do you have supervision or operation on this certificate?
  • #18 19113466
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    In general, the law here is somewhat imprecise. You do not need any qualifications for PV installations - especially installations with a capacity of up to 6.5 kW. For the installation itself, SEP "E" is enough.
    Moderated By Topolski Mirosław:

    How many times do you have to repeat that there is no SEP "E" only qualification certificate "E"


    The UDT certificate is optional. I called the UDT for another matter and asked about it. There is no legal basis for the obligation to have a UDT certificate. This is an additional thing, when someone wants to have a certificate that he knows something more than someone who does not have such a certificate.

    Next: the newest act on Construction Law states:

    Art. 29. 1. A building permit shall not be required for the construction of:

    2. A building permit is not required for construction works consisting in:
    16.installation of heat pumps, stand-alone solar collectors, photovoltaic devices with an installed electrical capacity of not more than 50 kW
    and agricultural biogas micro-installations within the meaning of Art. 19 paragraph 1 of the Act of February 20, 2015 on renewable energy sources (Journal of Laws of 2020, items 261, 284, 568, 695 and 1086), with the proviso that for photovoltaic devices with an installed electrical capacity of more than 6.5 kW and agricultural biogas micro-installations, the obligation to agree on compliance with the fire protection requirements of the construction project referred to in Art. 6b of the Act of August 24, 1991 on fire protection (Journal of Laws of 2020, item 961), and notifications of the authorities of the State Fire Service, referred to in Art. 56 sec. 1a of this act.


    4. It does not require a building permit decision and the notification referred to in Art. 30, performance of construction works involving:
    3) installing:
    c) heat pumps, free-standing solar collectors, photovoltaic devices with an installed electrical capacity of not more than 50 kW, with the proviso that for photovoltaic devices with an installed electrical capacity of more than 6.5 kW, the obligation to agree with a fire protection expert in terms of compliance with the requirements of fire protection, hereinafter referred to as "the arrangement in terms of fire protection", the design of these devices and the notification of the authorities of the State Fire Service, referred to in article 2. 56 sec. 1a.

    With the above-mentioned According to the regulations, you can design up to 6.5 kW yourself and make it without reporting it to anyone if it is off-grid - you don't even have to design anything, because you won't have anyone to even show this project to. However, for on-grid ones, you still need to connect it to the power grid. Here, the energy company may even require a connection design, and this can only be performed by a person with building qualifications in the field of energy networks.

    However, for off-grid and on-grid installations with a power above 6.5 kW, you need to 50 kW, you must also agree the scheme with an expert in the field of fire protection and notify the PSP.
  • #19 19113525
    buli117
    Level 11  
    Electrician's certificate from 2019 "E" in the description, assembly with supervision, diagram, substeplowany fire protection, 8 kW installation.
  • #20 19113599
    wello
    Level 20  
    The letter in item 2) requires supervision, so here's the problem. Find someone from D, have them check the installation and get signed.
  • #21 19113877
    buli117
    Level 11  
    Thank you it was about D.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the qualifications required for installing photovoltaic (PV) on-grid installations, specifically focusing on the UDT and E certificates for systems up to 1kV. Participants confirm that the author possesses the necessary qualifications, including a UDT certificate and an E qualification. It is noted that for connecting micro-installations to the grid, the application can be submitted with the existing qualifications, and a hand-drawn diagram is acceptable. Concerns about funding from the "My Electricity" program are raised, particularly regarding the need for invoices for equipment purchases. The conversation also touches on the lack of strict requirements for protocols and the legal ambiguities surrounding qualifications for installations, especially for systems under 6.5 kW. Overall, the consensus is that while certain qualifications are beneficial, they may not be strictly necessary for smaller installations.
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