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Optical Fiber Suppliers in Bielsko Biala: Map/Resources to Discover Local Providers

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  • #1 17856313
    david177
    Level 9  
    I am looking for fiber optic suppliers in Bielsko Biala.

    Is there any serious site somewhere to find fiber optic suppliers by location?


    Thank you.
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    #2 17856356
    seb235
    Level 28  
    There is no such thing as a database of all ISPs along with the addresses that they support - sometimes the providers themselves even have a problem with something like this on their own website because, for example, the records contain something different than in real life.

    Although figuring it out is quite simple, go outside the house and walk up the street for a maximum of 500m in each direction. If any supplier has hung an optical fiber, it is likely that a white square box will hang on some pole, most likely with a sticker on which you will find the company name or contact details. It looks something like this:

    A pole with a fiber optic junction box in a white casing, surrounded by coiled cable, against a blue sky and green trees.

    If you live in a block of flats, there are certainly some leaflets, information on the cages, possibly similar installation elements with the operator's logo.

    And the last option is to call the suppliers available in your city with a question about the availability of services in your location, or you can arrange it by e-mail.

    If you are new to the area, it is worth asking what your neighbors are using and whether they are satisfied with the level of services offered.
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    #3 17856397
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Of course it exists, I don't see the need to fly blindly around Bielsko Biała and look for an optical fiber.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #4 17856407
    david177
    Level 9  
    Thanks for the info.

    From my information so far, there are two possibilities:

    1. Exactly such a pole as in the picture is under the house. I already know the operator. The operator is unknown to anyone, he only laid the cables a month ago and no one has any experience with this operator. The operator offers only 2-year contracts.

    2. Since there is another optical fiber in the sewage system (by the sidewalk, by the main road), unfortunately I cannot find the operator.

    I have already called all the operators in the city and none of them offers optical fibers at the given address.

    PS What surprises me about the operator 1. He doesn't do any advertising and he doesn't promote his optical fiber in this area.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    matek451 wrote:
    Of course it exists, I don't see the need to fly blindly around Bielsko Biała and look for an optical fiber.
    I mean how to find?
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    #6 17856486
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    david177 wrote:
    What surprises me about the operator 1. He doesn't do any advertising and he doesn't promote his optical fiber in this area.
    Maybe he's not finished with everything yet. It is not enough to pull it, it has to be connected to the backbone. Not to mention all formal activities such as wiring records, all approvals, contracts with backbone operators, etc. etc.
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    #7 17856512
    seb235
    Level 28  
    david177 wrote:
    PS What surprises me about the operator 1. He doesn't do any advertising and he doesn't promote his optical fiber in this area.


    This optical fiber could be located in order to connect another town / settlement / street. The optical fiber itself is used practically at every stage of building an ICT network, not only to connect the end customer. In addition, it could be some wholesale provider or a network built for the P2P connection (not to be confused with torrenting).

    matek451 wrote:
    Normally, use the UKE website dedicated for this purpose https://wyszukikuje.uke.gov.pl/ in accordance with the colleague's guide @radius (@internick) http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f= 30 & p = 590029 # p590029


    For me, I say that I can have a maximum of 20Mb / s from Netia or 10Mb / s from TP SA and zero information about the optical fiber that came to the street in the first version from 10 years ago.
  • #8 17856883
    david177
    Level 9  
    matek451 wrote:
    Normally, use the UKE website dedicated for this purpose https://wyszukikuje.uke.gov.pl/ in accordance with the colleague's guide @radius (@internick) http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f= 30 & p = 590029 # p590029

    I hit:
    1. Planned expansion (POPC) +
    2. Services
    the result of this shows me only (see screenshot):
    Optical Fiber Suppliers in Bielsko Biala: Map/Resources to Discover Local Providers

    Unfortunately, no information about the optical fiber and no information about the planned optical fiber.
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  • #9 17857641
    smaboman
    Level 14  
    And do you know how operators approach the use of existing infrastructure?
    For example, operator X has laid an optical fiber and is it possible for Netia / Orange to use their optical fibers to provide their services?
  • #10 17858159
    seb235
    Level 28  
    Such things as the use of operator X of the Y operator's link is nothing new, if you need to connect a location, e.g. 50KM, then no one will lay new cables, only a fiber is leased or a data transmission service is purchased from an operator available in a given region and provides the service closest to the expected location . However, these are services for operators that involve considerable costs. And the home user wants to pay about PLN 50 / month.

    It doesn't work either, so the operator takes X, connects to the cable that hangs on the pole and starts using it for his own purposes.
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  • #11 17859461
    smaboman
    Level 14  
    seb235 wrote:
    However, these are services for operators that involve considerable costs. And the home user wants to pay about PLN 50 / month.

    Why should he pay more? If the prices for a given service are at this level, the home user will choose the service that suits him in terms of quality and price.

    seb235 wrote:

    It doesn't work either, so the operator takes X, connects to the cable that hangs on the pole and starts using it for his own purposes.


    I am aware of this, and I am more interested in how operator X can find out, for example, about the fiber located in a given location and about the interest in its services in a given area.
  • #12 17860396
    seb235
    Level 28  
    smaboman wrote:
    I am aware of this, and I am more interested in how operator X can find out, for example, about the fiber located in a given location and about the interest in its services in a given area.


    You just have to change the way you think about the operation of such networks today compared to what was 10 years back. By analogy to the LLU from Neti where the line was switched to the netia DSLAM and the process was done, the same could be done in bolts where the Ethernet service was provided. This was due to the fact that in the case of telecoms, each subscriber had his own copper pair that flew directly from the DSLAM to your modem, so overvoltage a single client was a formality. The same with ethernet, connect the patch panel cable to another switch from another supplier and from the head.

    Unfortunately, today it is impossible to take that and switch the subscriber to another provider. You write about optical fiber, so maybe on such an example. The device that transmits the optical signal (from the operator's side) is OLT, where one port has a bit rate of 2.5 Gb / s to the client and 1.25 Gb / s from the client (in the case of GPON). On this one port, an optical fiber is attached, which using optical splitters (in these boxes on the poles) theoretically terminate a maximum of 128 clients, the orange itself declares that they connect 64 of them. So your cable and your fiber actually end up in a splitter which you have in front of the house. In the case of such services, it is impossible to switch the subscriber to another operator because you really switch everyone on this fiber. In cable networks, there can be even more customers on one coaxial cable.

    What you are writing about works, on the basis that, for example, Netia can send a signal through their fiber from location A to location B, although this is used to connect your equipment to the network core and the next step is to build your own access network anyway. Nobody will connect such a fiber to your house / flat, if you have a company that can afford huge installation costs and a monthly subscription of, say, PLN 1500 / month, then it can be arranged.

    smaboman wrote:
    Why should he pay more? If the prices for a given service are at this level, the home user will choose the service that suits him in terms of quality and price.


    You don't have to pay more, the company doesn't have to connect you. Therefore, there is a separate helpline for individual clients and if they do not have everything ready, you get a refusal. This is a simple economic account the operator wants to earn. I will write more, ask your neighbors how many people are willing to switch to another operator - the interest will be small, if you say that the cost of the installation is, for example, PLN 99, half of it will crumble, once you sign a declaration, a handful will be left.

    Recently, I read an article summarizing the operation of these 3 provinces that built their fiber-optic network, the interest in using the service is negligible, so that ISPs who use it are not even able to cover the cost of the cable lease.

    There is no need to dwell on the topic more because you will not get anything done, be glad that you have the option of connecting to the infrastructure that already exists. There are people in a much worse situation.
  • #13 17873538
    smaboman
    Level 14  
    Thanks for such an explanation (from the technical side) I meant. My guess is that if a given operator does not find it profitable to do something, he will definitely not implement it. For example, Orange does not modernize its infrastructure in my area.

    As for the optical fiber, I have just such a splitter on the pole in front of the house. However, the subscription prices requested by the provider are so high that, having a fiber optic cable 5 meters from my home, I use LTE Internet. And thanks to the appropriate configuration, LTE works so well that I will wait until the prices from the supplier with fiber drop to normal.
  • #14 17873964
    david177
    Level 9  
    In the location that I described, the fiber optic price list is as follows:

    1.50 MB = PLN 50 / month
    2.100 MB = PLN 60 / month
    3. 200 MB = 80 PLN / month
    4. 300 MB = PLN 100 / month

    Added to this:

    5. Connection + installation about 5 m = 200 PLN (one time)
    6. Router surcharge (AC) = PLN 100

    Contract for 2 years!
    (it scares me off, because this operator is unknown here)
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    PS. For comparison, another operator in a different district nearby offers, for example,
    Contracts for only 1 year of time and costs much less from the above, i.e.

    7.100 MB for PLN 50 contract for only one year / PLN 40 for 2 years
    8. 300 MB for PLN 60 contract for only one year / PLN 50 for 2 years
    9. 600 MB for PLN 70 contract for only one year / PLN 60 for 2 years
    10. 1000 MB = PLN 80 / contract for only one year / PLN 70 for 2 years

    So you can see from this example here, the price difference is very big.
  • #15 17916128
    seb235
    Level 28  
    david177 wrote:
    In the location that I described, the fiber optic price list is as follows:
    1.50 MB = PLN 50 / month
    2.100 MB = PLN 60 / month
    3. 200 MB = 80 PLN / month
    4. 300 MB = PLN 100 / month


    In fact, the prices are not small because I pay PLN 49 / month for 200Mb / s for a 24-month contract, although 50Mb / s for PLN 50 / month is always better than LTE.

    david177 wrote:
    PS. For comparison, another operator in a different district nearby offers, for example,
    Contracts for only 1 year of time and costs much less of the above. So you can see from this example here, the price difference is very big.


    Except that you only compare the prices of the monthly subscription. It's hard to say what level each of these operators offers. The question is from which wholesale suppliers they take the connection and how much, in what technology and on what equipment they deliver it to the customer's home. To what extent does it work flawlessly and how does the service in each of these companies work in case something happened? Remember also that the throughput from the contract, i.e. 300Mb / s, is one thing, but the real achievable speed to specific servers may be different, especially during peak hours or holidays. I would be able to raise my x2 monthly commitment if I could have a better quality connection.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around finding fiber optic suppliers in Bielsko Biała. Users express frustration over the lack of a comprehensive database for local ISPs and suggest alternative methods for locating providers, such as checking for visible infrastructure like white square boxes on poles or using the UKE website for service availability. Some users report difficulties in identifying operators, especially when new providers have recently installed cables without advertising. The conversation also touches on pricing for fiber optic services, with comparisons made between different operators and their contract terms. Concerns about service quality and the potential for using existing infrastructure are also raised.
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