Troubleshooting UK Kitchen Lamp Connection Issues: Wiring, Switches & Protection Activation

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Hello, I bought a new lamp for the kitchen and I'm having trouble connecting it. More precisely, with its removal. I tried different combinations and either the lamp is on all the time and does not respond to the switch, or the only reaction to the switch is the activation of the protection....

bumble · Accepted Answer

Approx.
It's supposed to be like this. Of the three-core two brown together and not connected anywhere else. From the three-wire two blue together and to the blue in the lamp. All yellow-green together and to the middle in the lamp. Red to brown in the lamp.
Give a photo of the switch on the back, i.e. where the cables are connected.

Added after 2 [minutes]:

If you settle, there is no phase continuity on the switch because the brown ones are disconnected. At the switch, one red is the kitchen, the other is the dining room.

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Two brown together and insulate. Red to the brown lamp, blue together and to the blue lamp. Yellow-green together and to the middle. It's a pity you didn't put the switch in right away.

bumble · Accepted Answer

Good luck.

bumble · Answer

You have three wires, a power in, a power out, and a switch. Total 8 lives. Incoming 3 cores and leaving 3 cores. Identify them. You connect the phase wire from the incoming phase with the phase wire from the outgoing (3-wire wires) to this you connect the third wire from the two-wire (switch.
You connect the neutral from the three-wire inlet to the neutral three-wire outgoing and to the lamp.
The remaining wire from the two-wire switch also to the lamp.
It was necessary to describe the wires before dismantling the junction box. I'll give you a drawing if you need it

bocian1821 · Answer

Hi bumble, Thank you for your quick reply. It seems to be doing just that, but the switch still doesn't respond. Could you give me a schematic of this connection?

bumble · Answer

Added after 3 [minutes]: What colors are under the switch, I will ask for a photo. Which phase is now when everything is disconnected?

bocian1821 · Answer

He doesn't quite understand the questions. Sorry, I'm pretty ignorant on these things. I have three cables from the ceiling. Two three-wire - blue, brown, gold-green. And one two-wire - red and yellow-green. I have three entrances on the cube. I connected it like this: two brown cables from three-core cables and red from two-core cables connect to the brown cables from the lamp. The two blue three-wire and the yellow-green two-wire connect to the blue wires in the lamp. The other two yellow-green cables from the three-wire wires are connected in the middle socket and the metal housing of the lamp.

bumble · Answer

Nooooo. You're shorting the switch. What colors are for the switch? Probably red and yellow-green.

bocian1821 · Answer

Yes, in a 2-wire cable there is red and green-yellow.

bumble · Answer

I am asking what is under the switch when you unscrew it?

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As there is red and yellow-green under the switch, it should be like this
From three-wire brown together with red from two-wire and nowhere else. From the three-wire blue together and to the blue in the lamp. From three-core yellow-green together and to the middle in the lamp. From two-wire yellow-green to brown in the lamp.

bocian1821 · Answer

This is what it looks like under the switch

bumble · Answer

Approx. Well, it's different. Is there a second switch in the room?

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My previous advice is outdated don't connect like this.

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Do you have anything to check if there is current on the wire?

bocian1821 · Answer

There is a second lamp in the room. The switch is double - two switches and one turns on the light in the dining area - here he installs a new lamp. And the other turns on the light in the kitchen - two fluorescent tubes in the ceiling

Unfortunately, there is no metric. Even if I connect the lamp in the dining area or leave the cables hanging, it does not affect the operation of the light in the kitchen

bumble · Answer

But in the kitchen it works normally? Is there a second switch for the dining area or just this one?

bocian1821 · Answer

Sorry, if I disconnect the lamp in the dining area, there is no light in the kitchen. Which makes sense considering the circuit is disconnected. Overall, I thought it would be much easier.

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The kitchen is divided into a cooking and dining area. There is only one switch with two switches.

bocian1821 · Answer

The switch on the left looking from the front is the one from the lamp that I connect

bumble · Answer

Okay connect.

bocian1821 · Answer

It works 👻👻👻

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