[Solved] 55-inch Panasonic X-55FX613E at 1.8m-2.2m: Too close or habit adjustment needed?

Hello,
I have the following problem. Two days ago I bought a 55-inch TV with a resolution of 4 ka exactly Panasonic x-55fx613e. I talked to the seller and informed him that the TV will be located at a distance of 1.8 m to 2 m. The distance reaches up to 2.2 m if it deviates strongly. I was set for a maximum of 49/50 inches, but they advised me that at such a distance I could easily have 55 inches. I will mainly use the TV for watching youtube, browsing websites and I'm going to connect a PC. From the beginning I can't get used to it, my eyes fly all over the screen and I can't see anything because it's hard to grasp the image because it's so big. Is the distance of 1.8m/2m suitable for such a TV? My eyes hurt and I'm tired of watching. TV purchased in a stationary l store, so I prefer to ask on the forum if I was misled? Did they push me for a bigger TV? Or is it a matter of habit? Today my friend was at my place and he also said that it could be a little smaller. With face close-ups, it's hard to focus on anything while watching. I am asking for some advice on what to do in this situation, because I would like to have some arguments during the conversation in the store. I've seen different distance calculators. At 55 inches, they give me a distance of 1.2m to 2.3m and I heard the same thing in the store, but can you really sit 1.2m from a 55 tv?
1. How far do you sit from the TV screen?
2. Are you sitting in front of the screen or facing the screen?
3. What kind of TV do you currently have?
4. What brand do you prefer?
5. What size TV are you looking for?
6. What signal and devices will be connected to the TV?
7. What kind of programs do you watch most often?
8. Will you be playing games, and if so, on console or PC?
9. Will you actively use the TV's SMART system?
10. Do you watch in the evenings or during the day?
11. How much money can you spend on a TV?

What kind of TV did you have before, how many inches? I have a similar distance, I have a Sony 50 "and it's not a problem, and after time I find that it could be a little bigger , but I went to this size gradually, the previous one was 42", I think it's a matter of habit.

It used to look like 21 inches. This is subjective and you may have been duped if you gave the seller a choice. But the ratio of the distance to the diagonal of the screen is not the norm in the legal sense, you can only ask for a return. Get used to the rest, although it's just proof that it's an artificial, created need, not progress...

I have a 60' HD and 2m is not a problem. Especially when watching 3D movies it's nice because you don't focus on the elements of the room but on the action...

I lived for 3 months with my parents who had a 55 inch TV, but it seemed small to me 4.5 miles away. What I mean is that I have to run my eyes all over the screen and it irritates and causes a lot of discomfort. Watching this close up makes me focus more on what's going on and whether I'll notice something instead of enjoying the movie. I also have the reflex to push my head back all the time.
Thank you all for writing back.
I will go to the store and ask for an exchange for a smaller one, i.e. 49/50 inches.
Regards

Mrsikorski wrote:

I will go to the store and ask for an exchange for a smaller one, i.e. 49/50 inches.

I don't know if you will succeed.

By the way... when one of my friends asks "how many inches to buy" - I answer that while watching a tennis match - I don't shake my head.

I also have a 55" TV set, I sit at the same distance from it and somehow my eyes don't run around and I switched from a small 21" TV set, at first it seemed to me a big mare, but after a few months I find that its size is just right. In the reception of UHD television, the point is to be able to see everything in detail, the focus is set on the entire frame, not on the main characters as before.
As for the image quality, you should set it according to your preferences so that it does not strain your eyes.
Before buying a TV set, I often looked into stores and looked at TV sets from the distance at which I would watch them.

Okay, maybe I'll wait a few more days. Can anyone tell me how long it takes for my eyes to get used to the new TV?

Please first, just go to the settings and set the contrast, brightness, color saturation at your discretion. I don't remember how long it took for me to get used to this size of the image, maybe two weeks or a month. I often go to friends who have a 32" TV and watching from a distance of 2.5 meters is a chore, now I can't imagine watching on a smaller TV than at least 50".

45 inches in the bedroom with 4.5 m and 50 inches in the living room with 4 meters and it's perfect for me. I connected the computer to 50 inches and closer than 2 meters it was uncomfortable. I used to buy these TV sets (plasma) in Saturn and the seller advised 50 inches to watch from 5 meters, 40 inches from 4 meters, etc.

In the past, with cathode ray tube televisions, due to their harmfulness, it was assumed to watch them from a distance of five times the diagonal of the screen. The LCD screen requires you to be closer to the screen due to the high resolution image display.
A simple calculator at what distance we should sit from the TV depending on its size.
https://hdtvpolska.com/kalkulator-odglosci/

Too close for me, I'm also 55" and I watch it from 3m and it's ok because I see the whole screen, it's just like in the cinema
it is best viewed from the center to 2/3 of the distance, i.e. where you can see the entire screen without turning your head and at the same time it is not too small.
If you can, replace it or rearrange the room to increase the distance.

That's what research supposedly says, but it's probably true that if your eyes get tired while watching, or your head flies Unfortunately, this has a bad effect on the body. Better a little farther than closer.

The TV signal is of poor quality.
We currently have mainly 1080i, not 1080p, and an embarrassing bitrate of 2 to 4 mbit / s.
Plasma or FullHD LCDs are the best for such signals.
TVs with native 4k are poor here. The biggest problem is in dark scenes.

With streaming in Netflix, it is probably the best, because at 2160p we have up to 19mbit / s and here it starts to look sensible. Although to be really good we would have to be closer to 35-40mbit / s.
HBO Go is weaker in this respect, which was widely commented on during the final season of GOT. A lot of dark scenes, low bitrate and consequently terrible image quality.

Everyone perceives the image differently.
One will get tired of the eyesight of the other not ... an individual issue.

Ludwik XVI wrote:

Everyone perceives the image differently.
One will get tired of the eyesight of the other not ... an individual issue.

And right.
Whether it will be a matter of age, eyesight or the ability to perceive - these are rather different issues.

When I sit straight, my eyes hurt and I fly them around the screen all the time, and when I sit on the side where the distance is more or less 2.5 m, it's better, but it's also a different category. Thank you again everyone for your opinions and tips, but however, I will want to exchange it for a smaller one, because watching from 2 m does not give me pleasure, I just keep wondering what I should look at, whether the object on the left or on the right, and with strong close-ups of the face it is already a massacre. As for these distance charts, I can't imagine viewing 55 inches from 1.2m. The data they give there is not the recommended viewing distance, and the distance from which you can see the 4k effect. I believe that 49 inches is enough, if not, it will move it a little forward on the handle and after the problem. Also, as someone mentioned here, most TVs are 1080.
Regards and have a nice weekend everyone.

Replace with a 49/50 inch model and you'll be fine.

LOCOLOCO wrote:

Eyes hurt if the TV is not calibrated.

And what do you think it means?

LOCOLOCO wrote:

It's not about the 4K effect, but about the amount of detail on the screen.

Did you know that the amount of detail on the screen depends on the broadcaster?
so what if you have 4K if the broadcaster broadcasts material in a standard, e.g. PAL?
Do you know what "details" are then and what they look like?

Ok I will do one more recap as there was no store manager on Saturday. With proper calibration and 4k viewing resolution, and after a few days of getting used to it, it's better. When buying, I told the guys from the tv department that I would mainly use youtube and a PC would be connected. Unfortunately, most videos are in 1080 resolution (as far as YouTube is concerned). Netflix already has 4k so git. With a resolution of 1080, the eyes get tired from a distance of 2.2 m, literally 30 cm is missing. The PC is not bought yet, and I am wondering how long we will wait for all YouTube videos to be in 4k and whether it makes sense to slightly reduce the image on the TV by displaying YouTube on the PC. I mean reducing the image from the top and bottom, i.e. black stripes, so to speak, cinema mode (if it is possible, after all, it is a TV, not a monitor, and what effect it will give). I'm just afraid that it will spoil my eyesight with a lower resolution on such a large screen, hence the idea of reducing the image on the PC. Unless someone has a more interesting idea for a resolution of 10 80?

The TV will be upscaled to 4K resolution, otherwise we would watch different programs in windows ha not on the entire screen. Now there are browsers installed on the TV, so for the convenience of browsing the Internet and entering text, it is worth equipping yourself with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. It's hard to require people to film and share movies in 4K because we have such a TV set, many movies were recorded in lower resolutions. That's why I urge you to set it according to the manufacturer's ready settings for the second time, and if I don't like it, let's set the image at our discretion and the eyesight must get used to such a large screen. Flying eyes on the screen may be a symptom that our eyes have a narrow field of view, which would be worth checking by visiting an ophthalmologist.