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Seeking Onkyo TX-NR807 New Chip Flash Data after DSP Change from TMSD830K011AZKB to D830K013DZKB5

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  • #1 18150078
    mozsy93
    Level 9  
    Hy I repair a lot of onkyos with manufacturing problem.

    All onkyo from NRXX08 working good, but now I would like to repair a nr807.
    I changed the DSP from tmsd830k011azkb to d830k013dzkb5.
    The amplifier booted up speakers is lighting, but no sound...

    Who have NR807 new chip flash data for it ??
    Seeking Onkyo TX-NR807 New Chip Flash Data after DSP Change from TMSD830K011AZKB to D830K013DZKB5

    Br Roland
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  • #2 18493808
    robertbobek
    Level 11  
    hallo. do you repair this ? I've got the same problem with integra DTR 50.1.
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  • #5 19811982
    dexbiker
    Level 11  
    I can confirm that this bin works on amp with DSP changed from ...DZKB3 to DZKB4.
  • #6 19844878
    edria
    Level 1  
    Hello,
    I am trying to do the same procedure for a TX-NR1007.
    I changed the DSP chip to a D830K013DZBK4 and now I have speaker icons and network, but no sound.
    First I tried changing the Oscillator to a 20MHz one but with it the network stopped working so I reverted to the 24MHz one and the network came back. Today I tried the 807 dump for the new DSP chip but it did not work, I got ?????????? on the DSP3 info, before it was ok.
    The NAND was programmed with BeeProg without any issue. Can some of you point me in the right direction? I would really appreciate it.
    Thank You!

    UPDATE: A really friendly user on this forum fachura https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/uzytkownik65696.html has helped me solve the problem. Thank You!!!
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  • #7 19872490
    dexbiker
    Level 11  
    So, after some testing I found problems with sound being stopped/muted for a fraction of a second every so often. I was thinking that it is caused by wrong oscillator frequency so I changed it from 24 to 20 MHz but it didn't solve the issue.
    Anyone has ideas ?

    As I mentioned above the receiver plays, but every few tens of seconds the sound is interrupted/muted for a fraction of a second. Replacing the quartz from 24 to 20 MHz (which is used in other Onkyo with this DSP) did not solve the problem.

    Anybody has any idea what could be the cause ? Maybe Mr. @fachura has encountered something like this ?
  • #8 19917926
    andyb1712
    Level 6  
    I would like to repair TX-NR808 with the new D830K013DZKB4 chip. Does this NAND file work in the 808 or is it just for the 807?

    If not, does anyone have the file dump for the updated 808/1008 that they can share.
  • #9 20056278
    mozsy93
    Level 9  
    Hy nr808 was out with dzkb3 you don't need to modify on flash if the data is not broken inside.

    But I have data for nr808.
    My data is from dzkb3 but tested on dzkb5 work perfect.
  • #10 20061138
    andyb1712
    Level 6  
    I've been advised that the D830K013DZKB4 won't work in the 807/808 without a complete firmware update, which Onkyo never released to the public but installed on units they repaired under warranty.

    Your message says the D830K013DZKB5 works in place of the 808's original D830K013BZKB3 as a direct replacement and no firmware update is required? Can you confirm this is fully tested with no problems? Where do you buy your DSP chips, Aliexpress? I have had all non-working fakes from there so far.
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  • #11 20061179
    mozsy93
    Level 9  
    I had original dzkb5 in the past 2.5 - 3 years ago everything was working well with that chip, I was buying it on hkinventory.
    No deform on the surface no reprint, no reball.

    I was paying around 30-40 USD / pcs repaired something like 50 amp 3 of them still working without any problem, close to my family and friends, the rest was sold or repaired I never had problem that time.
    That time was impossible to find dzkb5 chip on AliExpress or eBay.

    Something like 1.5 or 2 years ago Chinese started to produce this kind of bullshit chips in high capacity, reprint them and now all of the distributors send the shit fake chips.
    Fake chips possible to immediately recognize.
    When the transform was coming they started to send good ti logo good DSP logo only characters was different, and couldn't stream audio, probably they found out the XD series good and they started to reprint, after everything was different, like TI logo and DSP logo, distributors don't know about it nothing they are idiots, this shit started in huge lye....

    Now impossible to find original good one with correct price, I cannot anymore, and I quit from this repairing, 100 USD for a chip is too high....
    My distributors all of them just change and started to send the shit chips...

    For me with that chip was working well the nr808 with original data inside and I was changing from dzkb3.
    I think that chip was 100% original !
    I was checking it in the workplace with microscope also I was checking the balls that chip was fine, also characters was perfect.
    My father has a nr818 still work well with that looks like 100% original dzkb5 chip, every function.

    Sometimes I still buy some high grade amplifier than I buy another one with low grade same chip and replace, if I want to save....

    Added after 29 [minutes]:

    https://youtu.be/Szq-sr6Rk2o

    Here you can see how that chip was look :)
    It's my video.
  • #12 20061451
    andyb1712
    Level 6  
    Thank you for your fast and detailed reply.

    It's good to know the DZKB5 can replace the older BZKB3 and doesn't need updated firmware to work. I scrapped my 808 for parts now because I can't source a genuine replacement D830 'D'5 chip. I tried a DZKB4 from a trusted source in China but I don't think it was new as claimed. The markings were genuine but it was reballed and when fitted in the 808 it still didn't work. I also read the NAND and tried a file dump from another owner with a new chip but still no sound. Later Onkyos like the 636 use the DZKB5 but they are worth more to repair and sell than the older high-end models now, so it isn't worth scrapping them for the DSP chips.

    I have mostly repaired Pioneer receivers and prefer those because there are fewer problems with the DSP flash memory. The LAN and USB functions are handled by another processor so they are just for the audio side. The D810 'B' chips in them usually work again when reflowed or reballed with leaded solder balls. The high-end models use QFP D808 devices and I have bought lots of the 'D' versions from Aliexpress with no problem. Some have 2 x 176 pin QFPs but these are not difficult to replace, just time-consuming with a lot of soldering.

    I would like to get an Onkyo NR3008/5008 and repair one of those with a DZKB5 because they are real monster amps and not too out of date unless you want the latest 4K Atmos bling, which I don't.
  • #13 20061505
    mozsy93
    Level 9  
    You need to buy sr333 or ht-r393 they have dzkb4 and they are usually cheap :) .
  • #14 20061534
    andyb1712
    Level 6  
    The 636 is the 'sweet spot' for Onkyo and Pioneer because it has D830 D 5 and D810 D 4.... One for each brand of amp if you can find one cheap.
  • #15 20061536
    mozsy93
    Level 9  
    636 is expensive better to save 300-400 eur :/ and usually just the preamp dies...

    Added after 36 [seconds]:

    But what you say is true :) .
  • #16 20061549
    andyb1712
    Level 6  
    HT-R693 is a 636 in disguise and has the same HDMI board.... I found one with a blown channel for 30 GBP but it was an easy repair and I sold it for 200 GBP.

    You are correct.... it's worth too much to break up for the TI chips unfortunately!
  • #17 20190382
    aalltech
    Level 2  
    mozsy93 wrote:
    This bin for dzkb3 dzkb4 dzkb5 chip not work with 11azkb!
    Can I use this dump to switch 11AZKB in my TX-SR707 to DZKB5?
    Thanks

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    I'm sorry for hijacking your thread.
    I have TX-SR707 with no sound issue. It might have corrupt data in NAND IC or bad DSP processor, not sure.
    Do you guys have original dump? Also if I decide to switch to D830K013DZKB5 would you have dump for that modification?
    Sorry for asking a lot, hopefully I can help you in future. I do have some dumps for other Onkyos and Pioneers.
    Thanks
  • #18 20190576
    mozsy93
    Level 9  
    Hy sr707 works perfect with nr807 flash data!

    Tested in the past 100%.
  • #19 20191447
    aalltech
    Level 2  
    Thanks so much, one more question if you don't mind.
    Can I use either D830K013BZBK4 or D810K013BZBK4 in SR707 unit with this firmware?
    Thanks
  • #20 20192795
    mozsy93
    Level 9  
    Hy yes it should work.
  • #21 20246456
    ehb
    Level 11  
    dexbiker wrote:
    As I mentioned above the receiver plays, but every few tens of seconds the sound is interrupted/muted for a fraction of a second. Replacing the quartz from 24 to 20 MHz (which is used in other Onkyo with this DSP) did not solve the problem.


    This is definitely a DSP D830 and not an XD830? Because in these XD I think it is....
  • #22 21384991
    Elevit
    Level 11  
    I had the same problem. I took it to https://electro-lab.eu/ and they replaced it with a D830K013BZKB4. They changed something else in the software and it works perfekt!!!
  • #23 21386117
    Elektromonterek
    Level 24  
    Elevit wrote:
    I had the same problem. I took it to https://electro-lab.eu/ and they replaced it with a D830K013BZKB4. They changed something else in the software and it works perfekt!!!
    .
    Well, it won't work for you for a long time, because BZKB is a defective series and you probably have a used one installed, because Texas In. hasn't produced these chips since the revised revision of DZKB came out, which is more than 10 years.... also new ones of these chips are no longer available. A new one would last as long as the average life of these chips, i.e. around 10,000 hours. The one you have is a total loss. Just out of curiosity, how much did they charge you for such a cylinder?
  • #24 21390957
    Elevit
    Level 11  
    I have a six-month warranty. And they cut down inexpensively. So far it works :) .

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the repair of the Onkyo TX-NR807 receiver after a DSP chip replacement from TMSD830K011AZKB to D830K013DZKB5. The original poster reports that after the chip change, the amplifier powers on and the speakers light up, but there is no sound output. Several users share their experiences with similar issues, confirming that the firmware dump for the NR807 is necessary for the new DSP chip to function correctly. Some users provide working firmware dumps and discuss compatibility with other models like TX-NR1007 and TX-SR707. There are also mentions of issues with sound interruptions and oscillator frequency adjustments. Users emphasize the importance of sourcing genuine DSP chips to avoid problems with fake components.
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