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[Solved] Huawei B535 - Antenna selection

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Why is my Huawei B535 slower than my phone on the same mobile network, and do I need an external antenna or a different router to get similar speeds?

Your Huawei B535 is slower mainly because it only supports 2-band LTE aggregation, while the phone can use 3-band CA, so the phone can reach higher speeds on the same BTS; an external antenna may improve the router a bit, but it will not make it match the phone's 3-band performance [#18281909][#18281924] The B535 was seen using LTE1800 as the base band with possible LTE2100 or LTE800 aggregation, and the signal on LTE1800/2100 was already correct, so the problem is not primarily weak signal or a bad antenna [#18281909] Because of that, the reply explicitly says “No antenna needed” for your current setup, since the speed difference is explained by CA limits rather than reception [#18281909] If you want more speed, the thread suggests moving to a router with 3CC CA support instead of buying a 2x2 antenna first; B715 was mentioned as a possible upgrade, but it still has its own limitations and there is no common stationary router with 4CC CA in this discussion [#18282355][#18282633]
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  • #1 18280765
    niktino92
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    Hello. I took mobile internet from T-Mobile and I have a little speed problem. I did the measurement earlier with the Huawei p30. and I had 110Mbps - 140Mbps and when I took promotions for companies, i.e. a zero limits package and I got a router and a card, and I did the measurement on the router in the same place as I did before, And surprisingly on the 60Mbps - 100Mbps router and something poorly tested on the router router Huawei B535 4G pro. So I did a test on the phone and it came out better 120Mbps - 150Mbps so what antenna should I buy in your opinion, is the router's fault? On the phone I get VoLTE like something I do not know if it is important.

    In the area, I have 2 BTS, the closest is in Olsztynek, about 1 km, not all, and the second one on Sudwa much further, about 5 km-8, I don't know from which I get the signal, but probably from what is in Olsztynek, from what I read from http: // beta. btsearch.pl and both show that they work in the 800 band, as I read correctly.

    Added after 51 [minutes]:

    I am wondering about this antenna https://allegro.pl/oferta/antena-dual-tajfun-ii-15met-3g-4g-lte-46dbi-huawei-7535744056?.
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  • #2 18280915
    matek451
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    In Olsztynek, BTS may be modernized and refarmed, and instead of LTE800 T-mobile and lTE1800NetWorks, LTE2600, LTE2100, LTE1800 and LTE800 T-Mobile and aggregation of 4 LTE bands may operate. On P30, you should do a test using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.mroczis.netmonster&hl=pl and show a screen from it and speedtest. B535 aggregates 2 LTE bands and the bands are managed via http://www.mediafire.com/file/79obbe81eufdt7t/Huawei_Manager_1.2_PL.apk/file, it is also used to check eNB, CID and signal parameters. check how the LTE2600, LTE2100, LTE1800 bands and LTE2600 + 1800, LTE2600 + 2100 and LTE1800 + 2100 aggregations on the B525 work. if the phone aggregates 3/4 of the LTE band, it is normal that it achieves better speeds than a router with 2 CC CA.
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    Screenshots from the card in the phone.
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    Huawei B535 - Antenna selection

    Router screen. I tried to change the pazmo through this HManager application but there was no result, it always has 70 Mbps - 80
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    Unfortunately, you didn't do what I asked for. The screen from AUTO on B535 shows T-Mobile LTE1800 aggregation as the baseband, but it is not known whether aggregation with LTE2100 or LTE800. There is no LTE2600 on the BTS, the phone connects in the aggregation of 3 CC CA LTE1800 + 2100 + 800, i.e. it uses a 30MHz band, probably DL with QAM256 on LTE1800, UL with QAM64. B525 does not support 3 CC CA and QAM256 on DL, QAM64 on UL. Signal parameters on 1800/2100 / 800MHz on the phone good, on B525 the signal on LTE1800 correct.
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    I don't know if that is it. But I was able to measure the LTE800, 1800 and 2100 bands. And as for the router, I have the Huawei B535 and not as you write B525, unless it is something else.

    LTE800 band
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    LTE1800

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    LTE 2100

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    And what's going on with these speeds, what do you have to do to have a similar speed to buy an antenna or it won't help. I can still check almost what speeds will be on the router next to the antenna, because the family lives in front of this antenna about 100m.

    Added after 12 [minutes]:

    I did something like that and the result was better, but not the same as on the phone.
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    You still haven't done what I asked for, on the individual bands LTE1800 / LTE2100 and LTE800 results and tests OK. But no LTE2100 + 1800, LTE2100 + 800 and LTE1800 + 800 tests. Do not choose three bands because it does not aggregate them anyway. In the latter case, LTE2100 + 1800 aggregation is probably activated and a very good result, so it is the optimal choice of two bands as the LTE2100 baseband. The signal on LTE2100 and LTE1800 is correct. No antenna needed. In theory, on 2 CC CA B1 + B3 DL up to 150Mb / s. It will never match the phone because it aggregates 3 LTE2100 + 1800 + 800 bands and DL up to 225Mb / s and QAM 256 on DL LTE2100 raises even 250Mb / s. Higher speeds are achievable on a router with 3 CC CA.
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    So my router doesn't support aggregation of more than 2 bands. I looked at everyone as you said and the speeds are similar, whether it is the 800 + 1800, 2100 + 800 2100 + 1800 band, and the speeds are the same, i.e. 90mbps - 120mbps so jumps. So if I would buy a router with support for over 2 bands, I would have a better download as to what router would you recommend, I would prefer it to have 4-band support, because in the future they may add the 2600 band, I would have 4 cc if I could do something like that.

    Yes, I was wondering about the HUAWEI B2368-66 router, but I do not know about it and I do not know if it will handle 3 bands now and if they will give the 2600 band, whether it will handle 4 bands.

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    The measurement was taken at home by the window from the router and telephone. And with the phone I went outside to check if he caught, outside, he caught 210mbps once.
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    I need a cable + -10m as for the router, then I will travel tomorrow and check the speed at BTS. And as for this router, what I gave would be suitable for 4cc or 3cc
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    No, he's useless. First, it has a sim lock on Play. It is difficult to get an unlock code from them, nobody in Play knows about it. Huawei Polska does not admit to it and does not support it, you need to change the FW to it from the Czech T-Mobile. and finally it has 12 cat, but in aggregation with the TDD LTE band and T-Mobile does not use it. in t-Mobile, as in Play, aggregation of 2 FDD LTE bands, i.e. 6 LTE category. There is no stationary router on the market with 4 CC CA, only MiFi, but with 1xLAN, i.e. Nergear M1, supports 4 LTE bands, it has 16kat. You can buy also from Play for PLN 800-900, two connectors for external antennas TS 9 to MIMO2x2. The built-in antennas support MIMO4x4 and QAM256. But BTS must also work in MIMO4x4. In T-Mobile 4x4, as a rule, it is on LTE2600. Now in Warsaw launched on LTE2100 and LTE1800. In the future, probably also on other BTSs in Poland. for today, the b715 has 9kat from stationary routers. LTE and aggregates 3 LTE bands into MIMO2x2. B618 has 2 CC CA MIMO4x4 QAM256 on internal antennas, ie Cat. 12 LTE. As for CPE LTE, the WF830 has 2 CC CA or 6 cat, it aggregates the same bands as B535. I have and use it, I have WF860 with 4 CC CA aggregation but this one is unavailable in Poland and Europe https://www.ztedevices.com/pl/more-products/mobile-broadband/WF860 It is possible that one day it will go to the Play offer.
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  • #13 18282505
    niktino92
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    That is. If I bought a Nergear M1, it would work for 3 aggregation with connected antennas or not. Or this huawei B715 with antennas. I need only one input anyway, I think rj46, because I have a router and 3 amplifiers for the main house anyway, because I can't manage WiFi for the whole house.

    I mean these antennas, what I wrote at the beginning, whether aggregation 3 from the M1 or B715 router would work on them. Wouldn't these antennas fit. If not, give me a good router with an antenna that will fully handle 3cc
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    At the beginning, you "boasted" about how you should not build a WiFi network at home, as long as an additional OK router means the use of 3 repeaters is a massacre. Does it even make sense?
    Netgear MIMO4x4 only supports internal antennas, there is no guarantee that you will turn on the built-in antennas, for today, and probably only MIMO2x2 on BTS, because 4x4 is usually on LTE2600. So M1 will handle 3 CC CA B1 + B3 + B20 with QAM256 on internal and external from this BTS. B715, in turn, these bands, but without QAM256, it will be a bit slower. Of course, the antennas are not the ones with the cable, because their profit is sucked from the finger, and the description is a load of rubbish from the Signaflex / new-electric trader and other accounts. There is no physical possibility of obtaining a gain of 23dBi on such a log / periodic antenna.
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  • #15 18282622
    niktino92
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    The most logical thing is to buy a B715 and some antenna. I am not far from BTS, maybe the one I gave will be enough or give some at a similar price.
    As for amplifiers, these 2 are not needed, only the one at the bottom, because I don't get WiFi there. But overall the speed is the same at the top, only half as low at the bottom, but ok good enough than nothing ?.
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    In general, I would set up an antenna, it would be the fastest and cheapest, I generally need an antenna because I get such internet in one room and in the other, where the router should be, it does not catch such a speed, only a poor 40Mbps, which means that it is impossible to do without an additional antenna. As for the Internet, I currently have an 80Mbps radio and I would like something better because when the family starts playing and watching netflix, it will not be enough and in the future it will be orange optical fiber because they are supposed to break it, but I do not know if they will get to me, unless they will not pass through cholenderna shaft. Tesz is behind him, which I also can't have at the moment, in short, bad luck.

    But I will check tomorrow what will be the speeds at the BTS from the router and phone. If the router will be over 150Mbps, I will take any antenna you gave, and this antenna would be suitable (ATK-LOG ALP LTE MIMO 2 x 10m gn FME DIPOL).
  • #18 18283958
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    I decided to give up this LTE because today at home he was catching a worse speed from the phone and router than yesterday from 80 - 110Mbps to 20 - 60Mbps on the router and phone and ping 50 - 70, thank you to such internet, muj is better 80Mbps and ping 8 - 20.

    I was at the transmitter and the speeds were the same as at home.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the performance issues experienced with the Huawei B535 4G router compared to a Huawei P30 smartphone when using T-Mobile's mobile internet. Users noted that the router's speed ranged from 60Mbps to 100Mbps, while the smartphone achieved speeds of 120Mbps to 150Mbps. The conversation highlights the importance of LTE band aggregation, with the phone capable of aggregating three bands (LTE2100, LTE1800, LTE800) compared to the router's limitation of two bands. Recommendations for external antennas were made, including models like the ATK-504 and KYZ10/10, to potentially improve speeds. Users also discussed the possibility of upgrading to routers with better aggregation capabilities, such as the Huawei B715 or Netgear M1, to achieve higher speeds. Ultimately, the author decided to abandon LTE due to inconsistent speeds and opted for a more stable 80Mbps connection.
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TL;DR: 2‑band routers cap near 150 Mb/s on 2CC; "Higher speeds are achievable on a router with 3 CC CA." Lock B1+B3 (2100+1800), test B3+B20 and B1+B20, and skip antennas if signal is already strong; phones stay faster with 3CC/QAM256. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18281909]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps Huawei B535 and similar LTE router owners fix slower‑than‑phone speeds, choose antennas wisely, and plan upgrades.

Quick Facts

Why is my Huawei B535 slower than my phone on T‑Mobile?

Your phone aggregates three bands (B1+B3+B20), while the B535 aggregates only two. The extra carrier and higher modulation (QAM256 on DL) let phones pull ahead on modernized sites. Expect a capable phone to beat a 2CC router when the BTS offers 3CC. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18281909]

Which band combo should I lock on the B535 for best speed?

Lock B1+B3 (LTE2100+LTE1800). Also try B1+B20 and B3+B20. On 2CC, B1+B3 can deliver up to 150 Mb/s under good conditions. Use an app to verify the lock and retest. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18281909]

Do I need an external antenna, or will band locking be enough?

If LTE2100 and LTE1800 signals are correct, band‑lock B1+B3 and skip the antenna. The advisor called B1+B3 the optimal two‑band choice here and said no antenna is needed in that case. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18281909]

Which external antenna should I choose if I still want one?

The TAJFUN II is roughly equivalent to Telkob ATK‑504 or TransData KYZ10/10. It may have ~0.5–1 dB more real gain at 2600 MHz, with similar gains on lower bands. Its cable is an LMR‑240/Tri‑LAN‑240 class. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #18281102]

Are “23 dBi” log‑periodic antenna claims real?

No. As one expert put it, “There is no physical possibility of obtaining a gain of 23 dBi on such a log/periodic antenna.” Treat inflated gain specs as marketing, not physics. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18282559]

How do I check which LTE bands my phone and router are using?

On Android, install NetMonster to read current bands and CA. On the B535, use Huawei Manager to view eNB/CID, signal metrics, and to lock bands during tests. Capture screenshots with each speedtest. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18280915]

How do I lock and test the best band combo on the B535?

  1. On your phone, use NetMonster and run a speedtest to see available bands/CA.
  2. In Huawei Manager, lock B1+B3, then B1+B20, then B3+B20; run identical speedtests.
  3. Compare throughput and RSRQ/SINR; keep the fastest combo and note the eNB/CID. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18280915]

Is the Huawei B2368‑66 a good idea for T‑Mobile PL?

No. It’s SIM‑locked to Play, unlocking is messy, and it needs Czech T‑Mobile firmware. It’s Cat12 oriented to TDD aggregation, while T‑Mobile PL uses FDD CA. Pick another device. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18282355]

What routers support 3CC or 4CC if I upgrade?

“There is no stationary router on the market with 4 CC CA.” Netgear M1 (Cat16) handles four LTE bands and has TS‑9 ports. Huawei B715 (Cat9) aggregates three bands on MIMO 2x2. B618 is Cat12 with 2CC and MIMO 4x4 on internal antennas. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18282355]

Why did my speeds swing from 80–110 Mb/s to 20–60 Mb/s, even under the mast?

That’s typical of cell load and scheduling. One user saw throughput drop to 20–60 Mb/s with ping 50–70 ms, and speeds at the transmitter matched home, indicating congestion rather than signal. [Elektroda, niktino92, post #18283958]

Should I test at the BTS before buying an antenna?

Yes. “Drive up to BTS and test there—you’ll see if there’s anything to fight for.” Compare home vs BTS throughput to decide if an antenna can help or if the cell is the bottleneck. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #18281924]

I need about 10 m of cable. What should I use?

Use a ‘240’‑class coax (e.g., LMR‑240/Tri‑LAN‑240). Order connectors for your router, then add short pig‑tails if you change gear later. With this setup and length, losses are negligible. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #18282633]

Will an external antenna help me match phone speeds on 3CC?

No. An antenna can improve signal and consistency, but it won’t add a third carrier. “You would have to change the router” to match 3CC phone speeds. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #18281924]

Should I wait for LTE2600 or more bands to light up before upgrading?

Possibly. The Olsztynek site may be refarmed to LTE2600/2100/1800/800 with multi‑band CA. Verify with NetMonster and plan for a 3CC‑capable router if/when more bands appear. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18280915]

Can Netgear M1 use 4x4 MIMO with external antennas?

M1 supports MIMO 4x4 on its internal antennas. 4x4 is usually on LTE2600, and not all BTS sectors run it. External TS‑9 ports are MIMO 2x2, so prefer internal antennas for 4x4. [Elektroda, matek451, post #18282559]
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