Huawei B535 - Antenna selection

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Hello. I took mobile internet from T-Mobile and I have a little speed problem. I did the measurement earlier with the Huawei p30. and I had 110Mbps - 140Mbps and when I took promotions for companies, i.e. a zero limits package and I got a router and a card, and I did the measurement on the...

matek451 · Accepted Answer

You still haven't done what I asked for, on the individual bands LTE1800 / LTE2100 and LTE800 results and tests OK. But no LTE2100 + 1800, LTE2100 + 800 and LTE1800 + 800 tests. Do not choose three bands because it does not aggregate them anyway. In the latter case, LTE2100 + 1800 aggregation is probably activated and a very good result, so it is the optimal choice of two bands as the LTE2100 baseband. The signal on LTE2100 and LTE1800 is correct. No antenna needed. In theory, on 2 CC CA B1 + B3 DL up to 150Mb / s. It will never match the phone because it aggregates 3 LTE2100 + 1800 + 800 bands and DL up to 225Mb / s and QAM 256 on DL LTE2100 raises even 250Mb / s. Higher speeds are achievable on a router with 3 CC CA.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

And that's right. If you sum up the speeds at 1800 with those at 800 and 2100, you will get the speeds you wrote about in the post # 1 for the router when aggregating two bands: 60Mbps (1800 + 800) - 100Mbps (1800 + 2100).

And if you add up 1800 + 800 + 2100, the speeds achieved on the phone in the aggregation of three bands will come out.

Will adding an external antenna help something - possible, but don't expect to catch up with 3rd band aggregation. You would have to change the router.

But, you can drive up to BTS and test there - you'll see if there's anything to fight for - how much difference would there be between testing at home and testing under BTS.

Are these tests at home or outside?

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Looks like you have a cool location and an even cooler BTS ;) The signal levels are good, RSRQ and SN are also not bad, although there would be room for improvement. If you take this transfer at face value, and not as a single case, it is possible that in this case, with this router and an external antenna, you could still gain a lot, maybe even some 30mbps or more, if the router and BTS would allow it . However, I would ride under the BTS - tomorrow Sunday ... ;) How much antenna cable could be from the router to where the antenna hangs - more or less?

matek451 · Accepted Answer

No, he's useless. First, it has a sim lock on Play. It is difficult to get an unlock code from them, nobody in Play knows about it. Huawei Polska does not admit to it and does not support it, you need to change the FW to it from the Czech T-Mobile. and finally it has 12 cat, but in aggregation with the TDD LTE band and T-Mobile does not use it. in t-Mobile, as in Play, aggregation of 2 FDD LTE bands, i.e. 6 LTE category. There is no stationary router on the market with 4 CC CA, only MiFi, but with 1xLAN, i.e. Nergear M1, supports 4 LTE bands, it has 16kat. You can buy also from Play for PLN 800-900, two connectors for external antennas TS 9 to MIMO2x2. The built-in antennas support MIMO4x4 and QAM256. But BTS must also work in MIMO4x4. In T-Mobile 4x4, as a rule, it is on LTE2600. Now in Warsaw launched on LTE2100 and LTE1800. In the future, probably also on other BTSs in Poland. for today, the b715 has 9kat from stationary routers. LTE and aggregates 3 LTE bands into MIMO2x2. B618 has 2 CC CA MIMO4x4 QAM256 on internal antennas, ie Cat. 12 LTE. As for CPE LTE, the WF830 has 2 CC CA or 6 cat, it aggregates the same bands as B535. I have and use it, I have WF860 with 4 CC CA aggregation but this one is unavailable in Poland and Europe It is possible that one day it will go to the Play offer.

matek451 · Accepted Answer

At the beginning, you boasted about how you should not build a WiFi network at home, as long as an additional OK router means the use of 3 repeaters is a massacre. Does it even make sense? Netgear MIMO4x4 only supports internal antennas, there is no guarantee that you will turn on the built-in antennas, for today, and probably only MIMO2x2 on BTS, because 4x4 is usually on LTE2600. So M1 will handle 3 CC CA B1 + B3 + B20 with QAM256 on internal and external from this BTS. B715, in turn, these bands, but without QAM256, it will be a bit slower. Of course, the antennas are not the ones with the cable, because their profit is sucked from the finger, and the description is a load of rubbish from the Signaflex / new-electric trader and other accounts. There is no physical possibility of obtaining a gain of 23dBi on such a log / periodic antenna.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

But what got you so caught up with changing your router? You've got some pretty decent transfers, and with external antennas, they can probably go up a lot more. Unless you have an application for extremely fast streams, that's different. If not, I would possibly 'screw up' what I have with the antennas and wait calmly until the 2600 fires and then I changed the router. Until then, there is a chance that something new and interesting may appear in the router family. As for the antennas. I wrote about her before. Theoretically it can be, only quality is unknown. In general, the logoperiodic antenna itself is difficult to direct, but of course anything is possible in this world today. Cover plastics can also be different. But, arrange a possible return, take a look and connect to the router you will immediately know if it is worth the price or not. As I wrote, the proven ATK-504 Telkobu or the KYZ10 / 10 TransDaty are a bit weaker (lower gain). At 800 and 1800/2100, you probably wouldn't know the difference between all three. I have the impression that Typhoon could be slightly better at 2600, but these are just my feelings. Only that when the 2600 band appears, you should then replace one of the antennas with something dedicated to the 1800/2100/2600 band (i.e. with higher gains and better directivity) to achieve maximum transfers. It is not easy, there are no universal solutions for everything ... So that you risk taking something 'better', or conservatively - proven. For all '240' class cables. You specify the connectors as your router has. If the new router had other connectors - no problem - you buy, for example, half-meter cables with a set of appropriate connectors (pig-taile, jumpers) to connect the cable to the equipment. Signal losses negligible. And as for the funny 23dBi Typhoon - Telkob is not better at all - he specifies the ATK-504 on the new website with gains of 16 ... 17dBi detailing for individual bands . Only DIPOL provides correct profits for TransData. As Angolans say - no comment ...

matek451 · Answer

In Olsztynek, BTS may be modernized and refarmed, and instead of LTE800 T-mobile and lTE1800NetWorks, LTE2600, LTE2100, LTE1800 and LTE800 T-Mobile and aggregation of 4 LTE bands may operate. On P30, you should do a test using and show a screen from it and speedtest. B535 aggregates 2 LTE bands and the bands are managed via it is also used to check eNB, CID and signal parameters. check how the LTE2600, LTE2100, LTE1800 bands and LTE2600 + 1800, LTE2600 + 2100 and LTE1800 + 2100 aggregations on the B525 work. if the phone aggregates 3/4 of the LTE band, it is normal that it achieves better speeds than a router with 2 CC CA.

Anonymous · Answer

This antenna is more or less the equivalent of the Telkob ATK-504 or the KYZ10 / 10 TransData. It can have 0.5 ... 1dB more real gain at 2600 and similar gains on lower bands than the above two. mentioned, which results from its greater length than ATK-504 / KYZ10 / 10 and the given angles of view. As for the quality, I do not comment, because it is a separate matter. Nice cable, equivalent to LMR-240 or Tri-LAN-240.

niktino92 · Answer

Screenshots from the card in the phone. Router screen. I tried to change the pazmo through this HManager application but there was no result, it always has 70 Mbps - 80

matek451 · Answer

Unfortunately, you didn't do what I asked for. The screen from AUTO on B535 shows T-Mobile LTE1800 aggregation as the baseband, but it is not known whether aggregation with LTE2100 or LTE800. There is no LTE2600 on the BTS, the phone connects in the aggregation of 3 CC CA LTE1800 + 2100 + 800, i.e. it uses a 30MHz band, probably DL with QAM256 on LTE1800, UL with QAM64. B525 does not support 3 CC CA and QAM256 on DL, QAM64 on UL. Signal parameters on 1800/2100 / 800MHz on the phone good, on B525 the signal on LTE1800 correct.

niktino92 · Answer

I don't know if that is it. But I was able to measure the LTE800, 1800 and 2100 bands. And as for the router, I have the Huawei B535 and not as you write B525, unless it is something else.

LTE800 band

LTE1800

LTE 2100

And what's going on with these speeds, what do you have to do to have a similar speed to buy an antenna or it won't help. I can still check almost what speeds will be on the router next to the antenna, because the family lives in front of this antenna about 100m.

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I did something like that and the result was better, but not the same as on the phone.

niktino92 · Answer

So my router doesn't support aggregation of more than 2 bands. I looked at everyone as you said and the speeds are similar, whether it is the 800 + 1800, 2100 + 800 2100 + 1800 band, and the speeds are the same, i.e. 90mbps - 120mbps so jumps. So if I would buy a router with support for over 2 bands, I would have a better download as to what router would you recommend, I would prefer it to have 4-band support, because in the future they may add the 2600 band, I would have 4 cc if I could do something like that.

Yes, I was wondering about the HUAWEI B2368-66 router, but I do not know about it and I do not know if it will handle 3 bands now and if they will give the 2600 band, whether it will handle 4 bands.

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The measurement was taken at home by the window from the router and telephone. And with the phone I went outside to check if he caught, outside, he caught 210mbps once.

niktino92 · Answer

I need a cable + -10m as for the router, then I will travel tomorrow and check the speed at BTS. And as for this router, what I gave would be suitable for 4cc or 3cc

niktino92 · Answer

That is. If I bought a Nergear M1, it would work for 3 aggregation with connected antennas or not. Or this huawei B715 with antennas. I need only one input anyway, I think rj46, because I have a router and 3 amplifiers for the main house anyway, because I can't manage WiFi for the whole house.

I mean these antennas, what I wrote at the beginning, whether aggregation 3 from the M1 or B715 router would work on them. Wouldn't these antennas fit. If not, give me a good router with an antenna that will fully handle 3cc

niktino92 · Answer

The most logical thing is to buy a B715 and some antenna. I am not far from BTS, maybe the one I gave will be enough or give some at a similar price.
As for amplifiers, these 2 are not needed, only the one at the bottom, because I don't get WiFi there. But overall the speed is the same at the top, only half as low at the bottom, but ok good enough than nothing ?.

niktino92 · Answer

In general, I would set up an antenna, it would be the fastest and cheapest, I generally need an antenna because I get such internet in one room and in the other, where the router should be, it does not catch such a speed, only a poor 40Mbps, which means that it is impossible to do without an additional antenna. As for the Internet, I currently have an 80Mbps radio and I would like something better because when the family starts playing and watching netflix, it will not be enough and in the future it will be orange optical fiber because they are supposed to break it, but I do not know if they will get to me, unless they will not pass through cholenderna shaft. Tesz is behind him, which I also can't have at the moment, in short, bad luck.

But I will check tomorrow what will be the speeds at the BTS from the router and phone. If the router will be over 150Mbps, I will take any antenna you gave, and this antenna would be suitable (ATK-LOG ALP LTE MIMO 2 x 10m gn FME DIPOL).

niktino92 · Answer

I decided to give up this LTE because today at home he was catching a worse speed from the phone and router than yesterday from 80 - 110Mbps to 20 - 60Mbps on the router and phone and ping 50 - 70, thank you to such internet, muj is better 80Mbps and ping 8 - 20.

I was at the transmitter and the speeds were the same as at home.

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