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Understanding Wireless Networks: Attenuation Units dB and dBm, RSSI Values, and Signal Strength

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  • #1 18762621
    MrPiotras
    Level 9  
    Hi, recently I started to study in depth the topic of wireless networks.
    I am having trouble understanding the units of attenuation i.e. dB and signal strength dBm.

    Let's assume that the RSSI is -20 dBm (the receiver is located right next to the router) and theoretically I would like to put a wall between the transmitter and receiver with an attenuation of 7 dB, how much RSSI will come out if I take into account the attenuation of this wall?

    I read somewhere that an attenuation of 3 dB results in a signal drop of 50%. So what purely theoretical, if my signal in a given room is -50 dBM, and then a wall with an attenuation of 3 dB appears then the signal will drop to -75 dBM?

    Another question, the router should be operating at 100 mW which is 20 dBm why then right next to the router the signal power is around -15 dBm instead of those theoretical 20 dBm?

    Thank you in advance for your time.
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  • #3 18762661
    MrPiotras
    Level 9  
    Unfortunately, but I had already familiarized myself with these materials and yet all these questions mentioned above were born. I thought that with a practical approach I would be able to understand the issue. Would anyone be willing to answer me the aforementioned questions?
  • #4 18762667
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    MrPiotras wrote:
    I am having trouble understanding the units of attenuation i.e. dB


    Suggest you read https://ep.com.pl/files/4169.pdf - decibel is just an easier to use measure of signal attenuation or gain multiplication. In HF technology we usually use the multiplication factor of attenuation or power gain.
    In the above article is table 4:
    Understanding Wireless Networks: Attenuation Units dB and dBm, RSSI Values, and Signal Strength


    Instead of writing "The cable between the antenna and the receiver is long and introduces 100 times the signal attenuation" we can write "introduces 20dB attenuation".

    MrPiotras wrote:
    signal power dBm



    This letter "m" indicates what the reference level is, in this case 1mW. Hence, below you write:
    MrPiotras wrote:
    work at 100 mW or 20 dBm


    because 20dB in multiples is 100 times - 100*1mW=100mW.

    MrPiotras wrote:
    Another question, the router should be operating at 100mW which is 20 dBm why then right next to the router the signal power is about -15 dBm instead of those theoretical 20 dBm?

    Because the output of the transmitter is not connected to the input of the receiver by a perfect wire - between one and the other there are still antennas with a rather omnidirectional characteristic....
  • #5 18762702
    MrPiotras
    Level 9  
    Well then, if the signal power is, let's say, -50dBm and we attenuate it with a wall of 7 dB, how do I calculate how much output signal will come out? How do I know if 7dB is a lot or a little?
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  • #6 18763166
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    MrPiotras wrote:
    if the signal strength is, let's say, -50dBm and we attenuate it with a 7 dB wall, how do I calculate how much output signal will come out?

    -57dBm.

    MrPiotras wrote:
    How do I know if 7dB is a lot or a little?


    Calculate for yourself on a "multiplication" measure. -7dB is about 5 times the power attenuation.
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  • #8 18764088
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    MrPiotras wrote:

    Another question, the router should be operating at 100 mW or 20 dBm so why is the signal strength right next to the router around -15 dBm instead of those theoretical 20 dBm?


    Because the signal strength depends on the distance from the source. The information "so why then next to router" is completely inaccurate.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around understanding wireless network signal measurements, specifically attenuation units (dB and dBm), RSSI values, and signal strength. The user seeks clarification on how to calculate the RSSI after applying a wall's attenuation (7 dB) to an initial RSSI of -20 dBm. Responses explain that a 7 dB attenuation would result in an RSSI of -27 dBm. The conversation also touches on the relationship between dB and power levels, noting that a 3 dB drop corresponds to a 50% reduction in signal strength. Additionally, the user questions why the signal strength near a router (20 dBm) is measured at -15 dBm, with responses indicating that distance and environmental factors affect signal strength. Various resources and tools for further understanding decibel calculations are shared.
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