Hi. Two days ago I had an optical fiber from INEI installed. I got a NOKIA G-240W-C router / modem in the set. I would like to make it only a modem and distribute the entire network with my router and ap (or mesh network). The problem is that the lady on the hotline said that to do this, the...

@ roso1 Do not connect your router to the WAN and the LAN and make it such a kind of AP (there is no point in doing 2 NATs and making yourself problems). Different hardware, but basically the same:

And if I want to divide it into the next floor even later. My router is old and I won't be using it. Wouldn't it be better, for example, a switch behind this modem and a 2/3 AP switch? I understand that with such a system I have nothing to think about building a mesh network, because there the main access point must be a router, not an AP? (e.g. Tenda Nova MW 6) Added after 2 [minutes]: And one more thing: if Nokia were in Bridge Mode and connected with a cable to a router in WAN, there wouldn't be 2 NATs? Why with this option, when I have the LAN port in Nokia as Bridge Mode, the WAN port at all does not see the device?

Well, you connect the LAN port to your router again with the LAN of the new router and set up the new equipment, in principle, the same as the previous one (you change only the IP to the next equipment, so that it does not bother the LAN). You can, but these are costs. A good switch (e.g. Netgear) with 1Gb ports costs +/- PLN 150, and a good AP (Ubi) costs +/- PLN 400 each ... Inea TV works only through the operator's equipment. In addition, this whole Mesh is more of another way of extracting money to sell even more equipment (whole sets). You can try to have fun in Mesh, but not for the money you indicate in Tenda's proposal - this is mutual communication via wifi and there are no compromises here: you can't get cheap. For a good set of Mesh, count at least PLN 2,000. Look at the sets of Asus, Netgear, FritzBox In a nutshell - the service from Inea (net, tv) runs on separate VLANs. In addition, net works only on the LAN1 port (there is no tv signal there) and tv works on the other LAN2 ports (but there is no internet there again). VLANs work from what I remember only in modemorouter mode and what's more, tv will only work under the operator's modemorouter.

So summing up: - preferably Nokia in router mode and leave, for example, the 5Ghz network for TV support (I cannot connect with a cable) - then put a switch behind the modem connected via LAN and to it plus, for example, 2 AP (in PLN 1,000 I think I'll find something good) - create a 5Ghz network with AP on a different channel than the previous one for TV, which would support the rest of the devices And here I have a question, will I create networks with the same SSID for these two APs, will there be smooth roaming going between floors? Can AP Unifi easily be mounted on the wall, because I cannot hang it on the ceiling? If not, what APs do you recommend (40-50 m2) on one floor (two floors and an attic to cover)

Exactly. Ubi supports this functionality. Since it is impossible to hang Ubi on the ceiling, you cannot hang anything else on the ceiling - so there is no point in looking for something else and sticking to proven solutions. Ubi can be hung on the wall. The switch is, for example, Netgear GS105 (5 1Gb LAN ports), or Netgear GS108 (8 1Gb LAN ports), and as AP Ubi AC Lite, or pay a little extra and Ubi AC LR (Long Range).

OKAY. I finally got the hang of the wiring in my home. At the moment I have a Nokia router / modem that gives me internet and TV (and 5Ghz must be turned on for TV to work). I will also buy a Netgear GS108 Switch, which will be connected with Nokia by a cable in the showroom. And now the question: 1) If the operator sets Nokia to me as transparent, if I connect to the switch (or then, of course, possibly the router), the cable to the TV set-top box, the TV will go? 2) Otherwise, if he had to leave 5Ghz on Nokia to support TV and there would be a Netgear router, whether to go to the solution: a) two UAP-AC-LR APs b) TP-LINK Deco M4

Tv is on its own VLAN and the internet is on its own VLAN - when you connect 2 VLANs to an ordinary switch, everything will fall out (there will be no net or tv), because the switch will mix everything and the signal will not go where it is supposed to go. So you need a VLAN-separated (managed) switch. The problem is that you need to set such a VLAN on the switch for tv and for the net (you need to know these parameters) and additionally you need to run 2 wires from the operator's router (a separate cable for the Internet and a separate cable for tv), because it is not certain that your router will be such the signal will pass - and what I described is just the beginning ... So briefly - no, it won't work the way you want it to. I would choose Ubi without hesitation.

Ok - now I'm convinced. So Switch: - Netgear GS108GE or - % 85 Core + Network & gclid = CjwKCAjwrcH3BRApEiwAxjdPTZlWFenCZ7hDCIJT9vah3nPmv3wNwyL5OCCOttLXut0s3_qI_q8qRRoCZMsQAvD_BwE Where does the low price of the second one come from? Is there anything else worth considering? And what AP? Only possible to be mounted on a wall or put on a desk - - - -

MESH is a radio connection of many routers with MESH functionality, so it has all the disadvantages of repeaters and a high price (because you actually pay for routers, not AP), and the advantages are redundancy of links between MESH nodes (at home it is useful on average or not at all) ) and smooth switching of the mobile client between nodes. And, of course, the systems are the manufacturer, so the expansion or replacement of equipment only for the types of a given manufacturer ... Probably not worth it ... because MESH systems are produced mainly for the purpose of covering large objects (e.g. halls) with a wifi signal and taking into account a large the number of constantly moving mobiles.

I return to the question: And what AP? Only possible to be mounted on a wall or put on a desk - - - -

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Hi. Two days ago I had an optical fiber from INEI installed. I got a NOKIA G-240W-C router / modem in the set.
I would like to make it only a modem and distribute the entire network with my router and ap (or mesh network).

The problem is that the lady on the hotline said that to do this, the router must be in bridge mode. It would not be a problem, if it were not for the fact that for the INEI television to work, it must receive a signal from the modem via the 5Ghz network.

By a little bit of combining in the Nokia software, I was able to change all 4 LAN ports to bridge mode and leave the 5Ghz network for TV support. But unfortunately then on my connected router it says that the WAN port is not connected. When I change the ports to route mode in Nokia, the second router is ok. What am I doing wrong and how to configure such a system?
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@ roso1
Do not connect your router to the WAN and the LAN and make it such a kind of AP (there is no point in doing 2 NATs and making yourself problems).
Different hardware, but basically the same:
https://www.tp-link.com/pl/support/faq/417/
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And if I want to divide it into the next floor even later. My router is old and I won't be using it. Wouldn't it be better, for example, a switch behind this modem and a 2/3 AP switch?
I understand that with such a system I have nothing to think about building a mesh network, because there the main access point must be a router, not an AP? (e.g. Tenda Nova MW 6)

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And one more thing: if Nokia were in Bridge Mode and connected with a cable to a router in WAN, there wouldn't be 2 NATs? Why with this option, when I have the LAN port in Nokia as Bridge Mode, the WAN port at all does not see the device?
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roso1 wrote:
And if I want to divide it into the next floor even later.

Well, you connect the LAN port to your router again with the LAN of the new router and set up the new equipment, in principle, the same as the previous one (you change only the IP to the next equipment, so that it does not bother the LAN).

roso1 wrote:
My router is old and I won't be using it. Wouldn't it be better, for example, a switch behind this modem and a 2/3 AP switch?

You can, but these are costs.
A good switch (e.g. Netgear) with 1Gb ports costs +/- PLN 150, and a good AP (Ubi) costs +/- PLN 400 each ...

roso1 wrote:
I understand that with such a system I have nothing to think about building a mesh network, because there the main access point must be a router, not an AP? (e.g. Tenda Nova MW 6)

Inea TV works only through the operator's equipment.
In addition, this whole Mesh is more of another way of extracting money to sell even more equipment (whole sets).
You can try to have fun in Mesh, but not for the money you indicate in Tenda's proposal - this is mutual communication via wifi and there are no compromises here: you can't get cheap.
For a good set of Mesh, count at least PLN 2,000.
Look at the sets of Asus, Netgear, FritzBox

roso1 wrote:
And one more thing: if Nokia were in Bridge Mode and connected with a cable to a router in WAN, there would be no 2 NATs? Why with this option, when I have the LAN port in Nokia as Bridge Mode, the WAN port at all does not see the device?

In a nutshell - the service from Inea (net, tv) runs on separate VLANs.
In addition, net works only on the LAN1 port (there is no tv signal there) and tv works on the other LAN2 ports (but there is no internet there again).
VLANs work from what I remember only in modemorouter mode and what's more, tv will only work under the operator's modemorouter.
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So summing up:
- preferably Nokia in router mode and leave, for example, the 5Ghz network for TV support (I cannot connect with a cable)
- then put a switch behind the modem connected via LAN and to it plus, for example, 2 AP (in PLN 1,000 I think I'll find something good)
- create a 5Ghz network with AP on a different channel than the previous one for TV, which would support the rest of the devices

And here I have a question, will I create networks with the same SSID for these two APs, will there be smooth roaming going between floors?
Can AP Unifi easily be mounted on the wall, because I cannot hang it on the ceiling? If not, what APs do you recommend (40-50 m2) on one floor (two floors and an attic to cover)
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roso1 wrote:
So summing up:
- preferably Nokia in router mode and leave, for example, the 5Ghz network for TV support (I cannot connect with a cable)
- then put a switch behind the modem connected via LAN and to it plus, for example, 2 AP (in PLN 1,000 I think I'll find something good)
- create a 5Ghz network with AP on a different channel than the previous one for TV, which would support the rest of the devices

Exactly.

roso1 wrote:
And here I have a question, will I create networks with the same SSID for these two APs, will there be smooth roaming going between floors?

Ubi supports this functionality.

roso1 wrote:
Can AP Unifi easily be mounted on the wall, because I cannot hang it on the ceiling? If not, what APs do you recommend (40-50 m2) on one floor (two floors and an attic to cover)

Since it is impossible to hang Ubi on the ceiling, you cannot hang anything else on the ceiling - so there is no point in looking for something else and sticking to proven solutions.
Ubi can be hung on the wall.

The switch is, for example, Netgear GS105 (5 1Gb LAN ports), or Netgear GS108 (8 1Gb LAN ports), and as AP Ubi AC Lite, or pay a little extra and Ubi AC LR (Long Range).
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OKAY. I finally got the hang of the wiring in my home.
At the moment I have a Nokia router / modem that gives me internet and TV (and 5Ghz must be turned on for TV to work).
I will also buy a Netgear GS108 Switch, which will be connected with Nokia by a cable in the showroom.
And now the question:
1) If the operator sets Nokia to me as "transparent", if I connect to the switch (or then, of course, possibly the router), the cable to the TV set-top box, the TV will go?
2) Otherwise, if he had to leave 5Ghz on Nokia to support TV and there would be a Netgear router, whether to go to the solution:
a) two UAP-AC-LR APs
b) TP-LINK Deco M4
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If the operator sets Nokia to me as "transparent", if I connect to the switch (or then, of course, possibly the router), the cable to the TV set-top box, the TV will go

Tv is on its own VLAN and the internet is on its own VLAN - when you connect 2 VLANs to an ordinary switch, everything will fall out (there will be no net or tv), because the switch will "mix" everything and the signal will not go where it is supposed to go.
So you need a VLAN-separated (managed) switch. The problem is that you need to set such a VLAN on the switch for tv and for the net (you need to know these parameters) and additionally you need to run 2 wires from the operator's router (a separate cable for the Internet and a separate cable for tv), because it is not certain that your router will be such the signal will pass - and what I described is just the beginning ...
So briefly - no, it won't work the way you want it to.

roso1 wrote:
Otherwise, if he had to leave 5Ghz on Nokia to support TV and there would be a Netgear router, then whether to go to the solution:
a) two UAP-AC-LR APs
b) TP-LINK Deco M4

I would choose Ubi without hesitation.
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Ok - now I'm convinced.

So Switch:
- Netgear GS108GE or
- https://allegro.pl/oferta/unifi-switch-5x1000...18?jfeed=aa34192d-eee2-4419-9a9a-de66b9dfae24 % 85 Core + Network & gclid = CjwKCAjwrcH3BRApEiwAxjdPTZlWFenCZ7hDCIJT9vah3nPmv3wNwyL5OCCOttLXut0s3_qI_q8qRRoCZMsQAvD_BwE

Where does the low price of the second one come from? Is there anything else worth considering?

And what AP? Only possible to be mounted on a wall or put on a desk
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-LR
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-LITE
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-IW
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-M
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b) TP-LINK Deco M4

MESH is a radio connection of many routers with MESH functionality, so it has all the disadvantages of repeaters and a high price (because you actually pay for routers, not AP), and the advantages are redundancy of links between MESH nodes (at home it is useful on average or not at all) ) and smooth switching of the mobile client between nodes.

And, of course, the systems are the manufacturer, so the expansion or replacement of equipment only for the types of a given manufacturer ... Probably not worth it ... because MESH systems are produced mainly for the purpose of covering large objects (e.g. halls) with a wifi signal and taking into account a large the number of constantly moving mobiles.
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I return to the question:

And what AP? Only possible to be mounted on a wall or put on a desk
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-LR
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-LITE
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-IW
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-M
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And what AP? Only possible to be mounted on a wall or put on a desk
- https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-LR

This.
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So I ordered 2 pieces. We'll see if they can handle the wall mounting and if I can handle the configuration
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✨ The discussion revolves around configuring the INEA Nokia G-240W-C router/modem to operate in bridge mode while maintaining a 5GHz network for television support. Users explore options for setting up a secondary router or access points (APs) to distribute the network effectively. Key points include the necessity of avoiding double NAT configurations, the importance of VLAN separation for internet and TV services, and recommendations for suitable switches and APs. The conversation highlights the use of Netgear switches and Ubiquiti access points, emphasizing the need for proper wiring and configuration to ensure seamless connectivity across multiple floors.
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TL;DR: “Net and TV run on separate VLANs.” Keep Nokia G‑240W‑C in router mode, 5 GHz on for TV, and add APs via LAN–LAN; quality mesh sets cost ≥ PLN 2,000. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770093]

Why it matters: INEA fiber customers can use their own Wi‑Fi gear without breaking TV service or introducing double NAT.

Quick Facts

INEA maps internet to LAN1 and TV to other LAN ports; VLAN handling works in router mode and TV is tied to operator equipment. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770093]
To avoid double NAT, connect your own router LAN‑to‑LAN and run it as an access point. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770086]
Unmanaged switches mix VLANs and break both net and TV; to extend both, use a managed switch and separate cables. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18776607]
Keep Nokia’s 5 GHz enabled for TV and place your APs’ 5 GHz on a different channel. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]
Suggested gear: Netgear GS105/GS108 switches and Ubiquiti UAP‑AC Lite/LR APs; UniFi supports roaming and wall mounting. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]

How do I use my own router/AP with the Nokia G‑240W‑C without double NAT?

Use your router as an AP and connect LAN‑to‑LAN. “Do not connect your router to the WAN... make it a kind of AP.” How‑To: 1. Disable DHCP/NAT on your router and set Wi‑Fi SSIDs. 2. Assign it a fixed LAN IP in Nokia’s subnet, outside its DHCP pool. 3. Connect Nokia LAN to your router’s LAN port. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770086]

Why does my second router’s WAN show “not connected” after I bridge Nokia’s ports?

Internet and TV are on separate VLANs that the Nokia handles in router mode. Internet is mapped to LAN1 only. When you bridge ports, your router’s WAN no longer receives the internet VLAN, so it never gets an IP. Keep the Nokia in router mode and feed your gear from LAN1. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770093]

Can INEA set the Nokia to transparent bridge and still run TV via my switch?

Not with an unmanaged switch. It will mix the internet and TV VLANs and both services will fail. To carry both, you need a managed switch with VLANs and two separate cables from the Nokia. Short answer: “no, it won’t work the way you want.” [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18776607]

What’s the recommended way to extend Wi‑Fi across two floors and an attic?

Leave the Nokia in router mode and keep its 5 GHz for TV. Add a Gigabit switch after it and connect two APs, such as Ubiquiti UAP‑AC‑LR. Set your APs’ 5 GHz on a different channel than the Nokia’s TV Wi‑Fi. Use the same SSID on APs for seamless movement. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]

Will using the same SSID on two UniFi APs give smooth roaming?

Yes. UniFi supports seamless roaming between APs when configured with the same SSID and proper channel planning. “Ubi supports this functionality.” Place APs thoughtfully and tune power to reduce sticky clients. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]

Mesh vs. standalone APs—what’s better behind the Nokia?

Standalone APs are typically better value. Mesh uses wireless backhaul, so it inherits repeater drawbacks and adds cost. Systems are vendor‑specific, limiting mix‑and‑match upgrades. Mesh shines in large spaces with many moving clients, which most homes don’t need. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #18776882]

Which switch models fit this setup?

Use Netgear GS105 or GS108 after the Nokia. The GS105 provides 5 Gigabit ports, while the GS108 provides 8 Gigabit ports. These offer reliable wired distribution to multiple APs and devices. Place the switch near the Nokia for tidy wiring. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]

Which UniFi AP should I pick, and can I wall‑mount it?

Choose Ubiquiti UAP‑AC‑LR for stronger coverage, or AC Lite to save budget. You can mount UniFi APs on a wall if ceiling mounting isn’t possible. Run Ethernet to each AP from your switch. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]

How do I keep 5 GHz free for TV while running my own Wi‑Fi?

Keep the Nokia’s 5 GHz enabled for TV only. Set your APs’ 5 GHz radios to a different, non‑overlapping channel. This reduces interference and preserves TV stability. Configure SSIDs and security to avoid client confusion. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]

Why won’t INEA TV pass through my own router?

TV uses a separate VLAN and provisioning that the Nokia handles. “Inea TV works only through the operator’s equipment.” When you bypass this, the set‑top box misses required VLAN tagging and IGMP handling. Keep TV on the Nokia’s dedicated path. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770093]

Will an unmanaged switch break both internet and TV if I combine them?

Yes. An unmanaged switch will mix the TV and internet VLANs, causing both services to drop. Use a managed switch with correct VLAN separation if you must extend both beyond the Nokia, and expect added complexity. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18776607]

Can I still build a mesh network later?

Yes, but budget accordingly. “For a good set of Mesh, count at least PLN 2,000.” Consider quality systems from Asus, Netgear, or FritzBox if you go that route. Keep TV on the Nokia regardless. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770093]

What’s the best way to extend wired connectivity from the Nokia?

Place a Gigabit switch such as GS108 after the Nokia and wire APs, PCs, and consoles to it. This keeps latency low and avoids Wi‑Fi backhaul limitations. Use short patch cables for the local cluster. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18771103]

Should I use the WAN port on my secondary router?

No. Connect LAN from the Nokia to a LAN port on your router and run it as an AP. This avoids double NAT, simplifies management, and preserves TV VLAN handling on the Nokia. [Elektroda, KOCUREK1970, post #18770086]

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