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INEA Nokia G-240W-C Optical Cable: Configuring Bridge Mode & Preserving 5GHz for TV Support

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  • #1 18770083
    roso1
    Level 10  
    Hi. Two days ago I had an optical fiber from INEI installed. I got a NOKIA G-240W-C router / modem in the set.
    I would like to make it only a modem and distribute the entire network with my router and ap (or mesh network).

    The problem is that the lady on the hotline said that to do this, the router must be in bridge mode. It would not be a problem, if it were not for the fact that for the INEI television to work, it must receive a signal from the modem via the 5Ghz network.

    By a little bit of combining in the Nokia software, I was able to change all 4 LAN ports to bridge mode and leave the 5Ghz network for TV support. But unfortunately then on my connected router it says that the WAN port is not connected. When I change the ports to route mode in Nokia, the second router is ok. What am I doing wrong and how to configure such a system?
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  • #2 18770086
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @ roso1
    Do not connect your router to the WAN and the LAN and make it such a kind of AP (there is no point in doing 2 NATs and making yourself problems).
    Different hardware, but basically the same:
    https://www.tp-link.com/pl/support/faq/417/
  • #3 18770088
    roso1
    Level 10  
    And if I want to divide it into the next floor even later. My router is old and I won't be using it. Wouldn't it be better, for example, a switch behind this modem and a 2/3 AP switch?
    I understand that with such a system I have nothing to think about building a mesh network, because there the main access point must be a router, not an AP? (e.g. Tenda Nova MW 6)

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    And one more thing: if Nokia were in Bridge Mode and connected with a cable to a router in WAN, there wouldn't be 2 NATs? Why with this option, when I have the LAN port in Nokia as Bridge Mode, the WAN port at all does not see the device?
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  • #4 18770093
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    roso1 wrote:
    And if I want to divide it into the next floor even later.

    Well, you connect the LAN port to your router again with the LAN of the new router and set up the new equipment, in principle, the same as the previous one (you change only the IP to the next equipment, so that it does not bother the LAN).
    roso1 wrote:
    My router is old and I won't be using it. Wouldn't it be better, for example, a switch behind this modem and a 2/3 AP switch?

    You can, but these are costs.
    A good switch (e.g. Netgear) with 1Gb ports costs +/- PLN 150, and a good AP (Ubi) costs +/- PLN 400 each ...
    roso1 wrote:
    I understand that with such a system I have nothing to think about building a mesh network, because there the main access point must be a router, not an AP? (e.g. Tenda Nova MW 6)

    Inea TV works only through the operator's equipment.
    In addition, this whole Mesh is more of another way of extracting money to sell even more equipment (whole sets).
    You can try to have fun in Mesh, but not for the money you indicate in Tenda's proposal - this is mutual communication via wifi and there are no compromises here: you can't get cheap.
    For a good set of Mesh, count at least PLN 2,000.
    Look at the sets of Asus, Netgear, FritzBox
    roso1 wrote:
    And one more thing: if Nokia were in Bridge Mode and connected with a cable to a router in WAN, there would be no 2 NATs? Why with this option, when I have the LAN port in Nokia as Bridge Mode, the WAN port at all does not see the device?

    In a nutshell - the service from Inea (net, tv) runs on separate VLANs.
    In addition, net works only on the LAN1 port (there is no tv signal there) and tv works on the other LAN2 ports (but there is no internet there again).
    VLANs work from what I remember only in modemorouter mode and what's more, tv will only work under the operator's modemorouter.
  • #5 18770347
    roso1
    Level 10  
    So summing up:
    - preferably Nokia in router mode and leave, for example, the 5Ghz network for TV support (I cannot connect with a cable)
    - then put a switch behind the modem connected via LAN and to it plus, for example, 2 AP (in PLN 1,000 I think I'll find something good)
    - create a 5Ghz network with AP on a different channel than the previous one for TV, which would support the rest of the devices

    And here I have a question, will I create networks with the same SSID for these two APs, will there be smooth roaming going between floors?
    Can AP Unifi easily be mounted on the wall, because I cannot hang it on the ceiling? If not, what APs do you recommend (40-50 m2) on one floor (two floors and an attic to cover)
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  • #6 18771103
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    roso1 wrote:
    So summing up:
    - preferably Nokia in router mode and leave, for example, the 5Ghz network for TV support (I cannot connect with a cable)
    - then put a switch behind the modem connected via LAN and to it plus, for example, 2 AP (in PLN 1,000 I think I'll find something good)
    - create a 5Ghz network with AP on a different channel than the previous one for TV, which would support the rest of the devices

    Exactly.
    roso1 wrote:
    And here I have a question, will I create networks with the same SSID for these two APs, will there be smooth roaming going between floors?

    Ubi supports this functionality.
    roso1 wrote:
    Can AP Unifi easily be mounted on the wall, because I cannot hang it on the ceiling? If not, what APs do you recommend (40-50 m2) on one floor (two floors and an attic to cover)

    Since it is impossible to hang Ubi on the ceiling, you cannot hang anything else on the ceiling - so there is no point in looking for something else and sticking to proven solutions.
    Ubi can be hung on the wall.

    The switch is, for example, Netgear GS105 (5 1Gb LAN ports), or Netgear GS108 (8 1Gb LAN ports), and as AP Ubi AC Lite, or pay a little extra and Ubi AC LR (Long Range).
  • #7 18776119
    roso1
    Level 10  
    OKAY. I finally got the hang of the wiring in my home.
    At the moment I have a Nokia router / modem that gives me internet and TV (and 5Ghz must be turned on for TV to work).
    I will also buy a Netgear GS108 Switch, which will be connected with Nokia by a cable in the showroom.
    And now the question:
    1) If the operator sets Nokia to me as "transparent", if I connect to the switch (or then, of course, possibly the router), the cable to the TV set-top box, the TV will go?
    2) Otherwise, if he had to leave 5Ghz on Nokia to support TV and there would be a Netgear router, whether to go to the solution:
    a) two UAP-AC-LR APs
    b) TP-LINK Deco M4
  • #8 18776607
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    roso1 wrote:
    If the operator sets Nokia to me as "transparent", if I connect to the switch (or then, of course, possibly the router), the cable to the TV set-top box, the TV will go

    Tv is on its own VLAN and the internet is on its own VLAN - when you connect 2 VLANs to an ordinary switch, everything will fall out (there will be no net or tv), because the switch will "mix" everything and the signal will not go where it is supposed to go.
    So you need a VLAN-separated (managed) switch. The problem is that you need to set such a VLAN on the switch for tv and for the net (you need to know these parameters) and additionally you need to run 2 wires from the operator's router (a separate cable for the Internet and a separate cable for tv), because it is not certain that your router will be such the signal will pass - and what I described is just the beginning ...
    So briefly - no, it won't work the way you want it to.
    roso1 wrote:
    Otherwise, if he had to leave 5Ghz on Nokia to support TV and there would be a Netgear router, then whether to go to the solution:
    a) two UAP-AC-LR APs
    b) TP-LINK Deco M4

    I would choose Ubi without hesitation.
  • #9 18776832
    roso1
    Level 10  
    Ok - now I'm convinced.

    So Switch:
    - Netgear GS108GE or
    - https://allegro.pl/oferta/unifi-switch-5x1000...18?jfeed=aa34192d-eee2-4419-9a9a-de66b9dfae24 % 85 Core + Network & gclid = CjwKCAjwrcH3BRApEiwAxjdPTZlWFenCZ7hDCIJT9vah3nPmv3wNwyL5OCCOttLXut0s3_qI_q8qRRoCZMsQAvD_BwE

    Where does the low price of the second one come from? Is there anything else worth considering?

    And what AP? Only possible to be mounted on a wall or put on a desk
    - https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-LR
    - https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-LITE
    - https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-IW
    - https://www.senetic.pl/product/UAP-AC-M
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  • #10 18776882
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #13 18782219
    roso1
    Level 10  
    So I ordered 2 pieces. We'll see if they can handle the wall mounting and if I can handle the configuration

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around configuring the INEA Nokia G-240W-C router/modem to operate in bridge mode while maintaining a 5GHz network for television support. Users explore options for setting up a secondary router or access points (APs) to distribute the network effectively. Key points include the necessity of avoiding double NAT configurations, the importance of VLAN separation for internet and TV services, and recommendations for suitable switches and APs. The conversation highlights the use of Netgear switches and Ubiquiti access points, emphasizing the need for proper wiring and configuration to ensure seamless connectivity across multiple floors.
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