Do you have vocational education after a technical college without a technician

I have secondary education, I am after the Technical School, there were 3 exams, the first two of them I passed the same exams, they are professionals, I also have a third for the title of technician, I have not passed it. And I have a question, if I have a vocational education if I have secondary education and the same exams as in professionals?

TakŚrednio wrote:

I have secondary education, I am after the Technical School, there were 3 exams, the first two of them I passed the same exams, they are professionals, I also have a third for the title of technician, I have not passed it. And I have a question, if I have a vocational education if I have secondary education and the same exams as in professionals?

technical education you have a school certificate only you do not have a technician diploma, otherwise you do not have to pass this vocational exam

What does the school report say? Upon completion of technical secondary school you have secondary vocational education, in order to obtain a diploma confirming vocational qualifications you have to pass two written and practical exams. You have 5 years to pass and confirm. Don't worry about the job market, a mechanic from a reputable university is more important than a diploma confirming the qualifications of a technician. So try to get a good place at the university and you have 5 years to confirm your qualifications in the profession or not, because sometimes people finish higher studies faster and get the title of Eng. or MSc, and have a problem with the assessment of vocational qualifications at the secondary technical level.

There is no such concept as "vocational education" in the education law.
However, in terms of which you ask, education stands out among others:
basic vocational,
basic industry education,
industry secondary education,
secondary education.

Details can be found below:
https://sip.lex.pl/akty-prawne/dzu-dziennik-ustaw/prawo-oswiatowe-18558680/art-20

from school I got "secondary school leaving certificate" for 3 vocational exams I passed two of them I wrote "passed the exam confirming qualifications in the profession in terms of qualifications"
on the diplomas of my colleagues who passed, I write "Confirmation of qualifications in the profession" and I want to find out whether I am like after high school or I have a profession like after professionals, they have the same exams that I passed but we have a third for the title of technician which I do not have. now I have bigos in my head and I am not going to college because I am not a good student

Someone who needs an educated worker will pay attention to the rest of the oils. If you do not intend to study, it is worth passing such an exam, as long as you work in the profession you learned - you can always explain "when the exam was, I was sick then".
You have the right to write a secondary education. You are not allowed to use the title of technician.
The certificate says exactly "what you have the right to use".
Don't forget that he is writing what exams you passed.
Learned profession and here you will have a problem with what to enter all your life.
Those who then pass the secondary school-leaving examination have a better opening to study and then the number of points shows that they have a title - which is not true, a good staff member will immediately notice it.
Feel like a high school student without a profession and without a high school diploma (because they probably could have prevented you from taking the exam).
You will feel it after a few years of work when a young after school will beat you with a title from a stool. It doesn't mean you can't make a career, but outside of the budget.
Take the exam in a year, current teachers will leave for the strawberry collection you will pass.
I myself do not understand teachers who will not remove you from school during your studies because of grades and in the end they will give you such a number.
A professional driver without a driving license and not one can teach traffic rules sick it.
This is how high school students were treated in the past, and they did not go to college - they did not have any profession.
ps
The irony of fate I did not have a high school diploma and I had two university lecturers to learn the basics of computer science (I was pissed off with learning them late at night, getting rid of them did not work - those were the times. At least one of these two respects me and still cannot believe it. that I do not have a high school diploma or university.
I am retired on strawberries.

60jarek wrote:

Take the exam in a year, current teachers will leave for the strawberry collection you will pass.
I myself do not understand teachers who will not remove you from school during your studies because of grades and in the end they will give you such a number.

You can see that you left school a long time ago, because the teacher has not been assessing students from his school during the vocational exam for several years. This is done by an external examiner. Currently, the technical secondary school leaving certificate does not contain any points, nor does it mention the titles that a person can use. There is not even the name of the profession in which the graduate was educated.

Just watching my friend's son's testimony had the same dilemma. (I wrote about a certificate without high school diploma)
After a year, he passed his high school diploma and got completely different what you write. (but it lists what exams he passed).
Secondary education
-Title technique cannot be used
- profession vieleicht what should I enter?

Added after 5 [minutes]:

Answer in the school office "the same as he left during his studies - but I do not have the title of technician - someone asks you?
Academic titles are completed after graduation. "

According to the definition in the high school graduation guidebook, "Learned profession is a set of knowledge and skills acquired in the course of apprenticeship and conditioning the performance of the profession. Learned profession is specified in certificates and diplomas or other documents confirming the acquired qualifications."
We are talking about certificates confirming qualifications and diplomas, e.g. technician. So if he does not pass the professional exam, formally he is missing.

A specimen of a technical secondary school graduation certificate.
https://sip.lex.pl/wzory-i-narzedzia/wzory/me...iadectwo-ukonczenia-technikum-dla-uczniow-dot presentowego-318922961

Vileicht, or what should be written in the profession learned in this case?

60jarek wrote:

Vileicht, or what should be written in the profession learned in this case?

I do not know what to enter, because I do not know what this column is in, but I wrote that formally, without passing the exam, there is no profession.

vieleicht wrote:

that there is no profession without passing the exam.

I think so too. If you pass the matura exam, it's only studies.
Ps A bit old and long topic but maybe it will give the author something: Link

I tell you "I don't have" - and that's what bothers Yes Average
secondary education "without a passed vocational exam it is not written as incomplete secondary (without matura)"
But a person after high school (without an occupation) gives the field of study they graduated from (not applicable to vocational high schools).
Now such situations from high school no longer occur.

So summing up:
1 secondary education.
2. educated profession none
3 We do not use the title of technician.

Yes. On average, you will have to navigate your whole life writing polls, etc., that's why I touched upon these threads so that you would know what to write.
Few where the employer requires details of education beyond the budgetary sector.

You pass the high school diploma, the certificate will look better.
You are not going to study, it is better to pass this exam in a year's time.
ps
We had an optician employee in the binoculars adjustment department - this gentleman had a long-forgotten profession by education (from covering houses with moss). I wonder what this profession is now called by this gentleman (this is about hitting houses)?

60jarek wrote:

You are not going to study, it is better to pass this exam in a year's time.

In a year, you only pass one exam that you failed now. That is why he writes on the certificate:

TakŚrednio wrote:

"passed the examination confirming qualifications in the profession in the field of qualifications"

60jarek wrote:

Answer in the school office "the same as he left during his studies - but I do not have the title of technician - someone asks you?
Academic titles are completed after graduation. "

But there are also professional titles that do not require graduation, e.g. the aforementioned technician, but also a master and apprentice in the craft, trainer, etc.

Yes, for the year, 1 exam and that's it. a problem for a year? Work has to be undertaken and what to enter in CW

TaTar, that is a profession learned, it follows that he has.

So summing up:
1 secondary education (not industry secondary)
2nd profession, e.g. "repair and operation ... etc"
3 We do not use the title of technician.

Yes On average, and can you write the full text of these pass and fail examinations?

60jarek wrote:

TaTar, a profession learned from this, it follows that he has.

It is difficult to say how exactly he writes there for the author, because I have the originals with a passed exam and on "Diplomas confirming professional qualifications" is "He passed the examination confirming his qualifications in the profession of an electronics technician" and on "Technical secondary school leaving certificate" is ... graduated from the xxxxxx technical school in the profession of an electronic technician - industrial automation " . Now it's hard to say what will be taken into account.

Recently, there are different models of school leaving certificates every year or two. In the newest one, as I have already mentioned, there is no name of the profession in which the graduate was educated.

vieleicht wrote:

Recently, there are different models of school leaving certificates every year or two.

I am not up to date on this topic anymore (what I wrote is a few years ago) but it is possible. Let the author speak up and write something more for us.

If you can't pass the exams, then you are even basic skills you are not in this profession. The curriculum in every technical high school is just a "lick" of the profession.

So if you have not learned at least a sufficient level, you do not need a diploma anyway, because nowadays only your knowledge, skills and experience count for the employer.

So you may not have a diploma and earn very well, but you have to be a "real professional". And here the circle is closed in your case.

But it's not a catastrophe. You can develop all your life. Just pull yourself together, leave your classmates behind and start learning. Take the exam next year, and in the following years keep increasing the level of your knowledge by completing various trainings and learning by yourself. In a few or a dozen years it will turn out that you have reached a level that is difficult for your other competitors to achieve.

I have a friend who only at the age of over 40 did his high school diploma and later engineering studies to be currently a department director in a very large international company. His employer forced him to do so, because it looked bad that a director without a high school diploma was managing a team of several hundred engineers and technicians.

I love how people who have no clue xd I am 22 years old, I'm almost after school, tech mechatronics, I was submitting papers to the largest companies in the city, I was on a few interviews and no company asked me about this funny exam only about mature I still think that I do not have any practice in the exam and I have been working on maintenance for two years and I think that for them I did not pay much money. These are the talks before admission and the trial period to check the employee and his skills, not something that a person in Warsaw thought up, which has never done in the profession.

dondu wrote:

If you cannot pass the exams, it means that you do not have even the basic skills in this profession. The curriculum in every technical high school is just a "lick" of the profession.

So if you have not learned at least a sufficient level, you do not need a diploma anyway, because nowadays only your knowledge, skills and experience count for the employer.

And here, buddy, you are wrong and you may not know it, because, for example, you did not pass the qualification exam before OKE. Most people taking the exam pass their theoretical written exams without any problems, and few manage to hit the so-called the key to the task of the practical exam, and here you have to show some logic, describing the problem in sequence, hence the problems with passing the practical exam and receiving the DIPLOMA.

kiss39 wrote:

And here, buddy, you are wrong and you may not know it, because, for example, you did not pass the qualification exam before OKE. Most people taking the exam pass their theoretical written exams without any problems, and few manage to hit the so-called the key to the task of the practical exam, and here you have to show some logic, describing the problem in sequence, hence the problems with passing the practical exam and receiving the DIPLOMA.

However, my friend probably did not understand what I wrote
Each exam sets a certain level, including the one in logic. If you're not on it, you don't pass it.

kiss39 wrote:

Most people taking the exam pass their theoretical written exams without any problems, and few manage to hit the so-called the key to the task of the practical exam, and here you have to show some logic, describing the problem in sequence, hence the problems with passing the practical exam and receiving the DIPLOMA.

Buddy, you are missing the truth. Below you have a link to the exam results from last year. And it's not like you write that only a few pass the practical exam. This is spread out differently in different professions. Most of the candidates pass both parts positively.

https://cke.gov.pl/images/_EGZAMIN_ZAWODOWY/i...w/2019/Sprawozdanie_z_przebiegu_egzolenia_pot creditaj%C4%85cego_kawodacje_w_zawodzie_w_2019_roku.pdf