Dell Wyse 5070 - YouTube video playback in Full HD with Intel Pentium Silver J5005 processor

Hello!
I would like to ask about unusual use of the terminal. Will Dell Wyse 5070 with such parameters play YouTube videos smoothly in Full HD?

Intel Pentium Silver J5005
(4 Core, 4M Cache, Frequency 1.5 MHz - 2.80 GHz)
Intel® UHD Graphics 605
(Frequency 250MHz - 800MHz)
DDR4 8GB RAM



Comparison of CPU and GPU of HP and Dell terminals.

HP T620
AMD GX-217GA processor, 2 Core
CPU Mark 743
AMD Radeon HD 8280E graphics
G3D Mark 241

HP T620
AMD GX-415GA processor, 4 Core
CPU Mark 1363
AMD Radeon HD 8330E graphics
G3D Mark 283

HP T630
AMD GX-420GI processor, 4 Core
CPU Mark 1573
AMD Radeon R7E graphics
G3D Mark 690

Dell Wyse 5070
Intel Celeron J4105 processor, 4 Core
CPU Mark 2974
Intel UHD Graphics 600 graphics
G3D Mark 334

Dell Wyse 5070
Intel Pentium J5005 processor, 4 Core
CPU Mark 3205
Intel UHD Graphics 605 graphics
G3D Mark 368

Dell Wyse 5070 Extended
Intel Pentium J5005 processor, 4 Core
CPU Mark 3205
Radeon E9173 graphics
G3D Mark 1996

pay over PLN 500 for something like this!!!!
Buy a normal USFF series computer, not this "something" with a CPU soldered in
You have a full cross-section of Lenovo Dell and HP in the same size but a normal Core i3 or i5 CPU with the possibility of replacement!!!!

max-bit wrote:

pay over PLN 500 for something like this!!!!

I agree with you that its price is high, but the TDP of the J5005 processor is only 10W, so if it is turned on all the time, it will consume little power.

czasnagli wrote:

Hello!
I would like to ask about unusual use of the terminal. Will Dell Wyse 5070 with such parameters play YouTube videos smoothly in Full HD?

I have a Dell Wyse 5070 with Celeron J4105, 4GB RAM, they cost PLN 400 on a well-known website. I bought a used 180 GB SSD M.2 drive for it and installed Linux Mint x64. The purpose of the computer - playing media from the WWW, Kodi, VLC, etc.

The Intel UHD 600 GPU has hardware decoding of formats in addition to H.264, H.265, VP8, VP9.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/uhd_graphics/600

From my observations:
FireFox - Youtube 1080p up to 60fps without problem. It also handles 1440p up to 30fps. 4k stutters - I don't know if there is a chance to deal with it, I wasn't interested.
Under Celluloid or VLC - it already displays 4K/30fps video with h.264 and h.265 encoding. I haven't tested with 50/60fps.

Browsing the web works fine, but remember that 4GB of RAM is not crazy and it may disappear quickly when dealing with several heavy websites.

A computer running an idle system consumes 3.5W to 5W.
The best thing about this equipment is the blissful silence - no whistling from fans, humming, etc.

maciejsa wrote:

I have a Dell Wyse 5070 with Celeron J4105, 4GB RAM, they cost PLN 400 on a well-known website. I bought a used 180 GB SSD M.2 drive for it and installed Linux Mint x64.

I will take this opportunity to ask a few more questions
1. Have you used Windows 7 or 10 on Dell Wyse 5070?
2. Do you have a Wyse with a stand? I think the stand improves cooling, but is it stable?
3. What Display Port adapter do you use to connect the monitor?
4. What model of WiFi card do you have?
5. Would you buy a version with 8 GB RAM instead of 4 GB now?
6. Is your Wyse eMMC storage in good condition? I know it is soldered and cannot be replaced.

czasnagli wrote:

I will take this opportunity to ask a few more questions
1. Have you used Windows 7 or 10 on Dell Wyse 5070?
2. Do you have a Wyse with a stand? I think the kickstand improves walking, but is it stable?
3. What Display Port adapter do you use to connect the monitor?
4. What model of WiFi card do you have?
5. Would you buy a version with 8 GB RAM instead of 4 GB now?
6. Is your Wyse eMMC storage in good condition? I know it is soldered and cannot be replaced.

1. No, only Mint.
2. The stand will not improve cooling, this side of the Wyse is solid plastic. I don't have a stand, the terminal stands without it. I had no problems with stability.
3. Not special Gembird's DisplayPort to HDMI cable, 1.5 m, works.
4. I don't have it, it's connected with an Ethernet cable.
5. Wyse has enough power to run on it, which was quite a pleasant surprise. If I had to use it for these purposes, yes, I would buy it.
For multimedia, in my case there is no such need. You can always add memory up to 8GB (I think this is the maximum, in my case 4GB takes up one slot, the other one is free).
6. I don't use it. When I decided on Mint, I immediately wanted to avoid the tightness and gymnastics of more specific updates, especially since the SSD costs PLN 70. The eMMC memory is visible as an SD reader, but SMART data cannot be displayed for it. Below you can see a test of its performance and the Wyse hardware (Asia and 2.4G are my peripherals connected to USB).



SSD achieves a result of approximately x2.

I also did a 4K test for higher FPS. Result from VLC below:


You can watch it without any problems, but as you can see, it loses about 8% of frames.

Now I know that Wyse has eMMC SanDisk DF4016 memory that can accommodate max. save 16 TB of data. There is also a 32 GB version with a maximum storage capacity of 22 TB of data. Your eMMC read test of 283.8 MB/s is consistent with the datasheet.

When it comes to the 4K test, I am positively surprised. It is possible that Wyse with the J5005 processor and UHD 605 graphics card will play a 4K 60 FPS movie smoothly.

I found information on the forum that Linux can have 2x16 GB RAM and Windows can have 2x8 GB RAM.

Thank you for the test.

czasnagli wrote:

Thank you for the test.

No problem.

Out of curiosity, I will take a closer look at 1080p/60fps from YouTube, I have the impression that it also drops some frames.
I just need to have some time for it

maciejsa wrote:

Out of curiosity, I will take a closer look at 1080p/60fps from YouTube, I have the impression that it also drops some frames.
I just need to have some time for it

Then I'm waiting for the test :)

Additional questions.:
1. What BIOS version do you have?
2. Did you install GRUB 2 on an M.2 SSD or eMMC drive?
3. Is it true that drives no smaller than 2280 fit into the SATA M.2 socket?

czasnagli wrote:

Then I'm waiting for the test :)

Additional questions.:
1. What BIOS version do you have?
2. Did you install GRUB 2 on an M.2 SSD or eMMC drive?
3. Is it true that drives no smaller than 2280 fit into the SATA M.2 socket?

Here you go, here's a short test :wink:

But let's start from the beginning. In order for Firefox to use hardware acceleration, it must be configured as follows:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox#Hardware_video_acceleration

The browser had only one uBlockOrigin add-on installed, it was launched with MOZ_X11_EGL=1. Monitor resolution - 1920x1080 60Hz.

The first test was a 1080p/60fps trailer from the website:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX2vsvdq8nw

Display result in browser window:


Full screen display result:


As you can see from the above, it loses some frames when displayed in full screen and the GPU starts to reach its clock frequency limits.

For comparison, 1080p/30fps material from the website:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xzJjqpa-RQ


Answers to questions:
1) 1.1.3
2) The entire installation is on SSD and boot directly from it.
3) For me it looks like there are 2 mountings:


I have a disk:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/p...530-series-180gb-m-2-80mm-sata-6gb-s-20nm-mlc. html

maciejsa wrote:

The first test was a 1080p/60fps trailer.
Full screen display result:



As you can see from the above, it loses some frames when displayed in full screen and the GPU starts to reach its clock frequency limits.

That is, playing YouTube in Full HD at 60 FPS in full screen resulted in the loss of approximately 2% of frames. I think this is a very good result.

Have you checked what the highest temperature the processor reached during this time?

Thank you very much for the detailed test

czasnagli wrote:

That is, playing YouTube in Full HD at 60 FPS in full screen resulted in a loss of approximately 2% of frames. I think this is a very good result.

In fact, it's not bad and if you don't approach it pedantically, there's nothing to worry about. Most videos are up to 30fps anyway.

Quote:

Have you checked what the highest temperature the processor reached during this time?

Thank you very much for the detailed test

After about an hour of "baking" film max 63C, typically stays around 57-58C. At 30fps it drops to 53-54C.

maciejsa wrote:

After about an hour of "baking" film max 63C, typically stays around 57-58C. At 30fps it drops to 53-54C.

Passive CPU cooling and max. only 63C is also a very good result.

czasnagli wrote:

Passive CPU cooling and max. only 63C is also a very good result.

Mhm... the processor is not bad at all, the GPU is heating up

maciejsa wrote:

I bought a used 180 GB SSD M.2 drive for it and installed Linux Mint x64

Does your M.2 SSD pass the ePSA test without error? I'm asking because the test of my drive (Apacer AST280 240GB M.2) ends with error code 2000-0145.

czasnagli wrote:

Does your M.2 SSD pass the ePSA test without error? I'm asking because the test of my drive (Apacer AST280 240GB M.2) ends with error code 2000-0145.

I did the full test, it passed without any problems.
My bios is 1.1.3 and ePSA build 4306.15

First of all, I would like to point out that I bought the disk new with a 24-month warranty, but it was returned (it was unpacked and had 3 hours of operation).

I installed linuxmint-20.1-cinnamon-64bit on the disk and using

I did a quick test, but I didn't find any errors.

Then I updated the BIOS to the latest version 1.9.0, but the ePSA test (4306.15) showed the same error (2000-0145).



Linux Mint works stably on this disk, but I will do a more thorough test in my free time.

Is smooth YT playback the only task for this equipment? There are many other smaller and cheaper solutions.

badboy84 wrote:

Is smooth YT playback the only task for this equipment? There are many other smaller and cheaper solutions.

The terminal will also be used to browse the Internet and work with documents.

What are your suggestions for cheap, energy-efficient, fanless YouTube playback equipment?

I use Xiaomi Mi TV stick and I am satisfied. YT, player, prime or netflix everything works fine. I once had an Android box but there is no comparison. Xiaomi is better.