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Power generator 230v, free energy (true or false)

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  • #1 19298880
    blaadee man
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    Hello, a new method for free energy has appeared on YT :) There are already enough videos like this and the scheme is similar. Is it at all possible that after accelerating such a generator, it is able to drive itself and also generate electricity?
    Here, construction from scratch 7Kw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85GXUKM0Ql0
    Here 12Kw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIiPSU2q9uY
    5Kw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIBMp4OvbSM&t=1s
    What to think hmm
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  • #2 19298916
    vodiczka
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    blaadee man wrote:
    What to think hmm
    You get bored and start a topic to start a discussion on whether you think it is possible to create a perpetual motion machine :?:
    Without watching the videos, I'll say: The generator cannot run itself
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  • #3 19298917
    icosie
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    Kit, like every "perpetuum mobile"
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    jarek_lnx
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    Like the colleagues above, I know it's not possible, but I watched it on the principle that I will be able to catch evidence of fraud and it is:
    Power generator 230v, free energy (true or false)
    Assuming that there are 100W bulbs in the number of 12, we have a 1200W load, with a pulley on a generator with a diameter of about 10cm, transferring such power at 1500 RPM would require at least 150N of force acting on the belt, i.e. about 15kg, while in this frame it is clearly visible that the left side of the belt does not look taut at all.
    So not only can I say that it is a scam, but also that the generator does not participate in powering the connected devices at all.

    I don't want to count it now, but I remember that in machines with a 4-7.5KW engine and pulleys with a larger diameter than here, two V-belts worked, and here we have 12kW and one belt, oh these wonders of technology ;)
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    blaadee man wrote:
    What to think about it
    Nothing. Just wait carefully for the moment of cutting the film. This cut occurs ALWAYS when the external power supply is disconnected. Even the installer didn't try very hard...

    These types of videos are (or should be) watched to catch the trick; because cheating is always there.
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    iskrownik
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    blaadee man wrote:
    What to think hmm

    I will not offend you.
    Your question is the result of not providing the appropriate knowledge at the education stage, or not looking for it on your own.
    There is such a thing as "conservation of energy" and be aware that such machines will not work without, as depicted in the movies, without the supply of energy from "outside".
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    anders11
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    I looked at the video and I'm shocked. However, you can. You can............ weld in sandals, the rest is a fairy tale
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  • #9 19301845
    ArturAVS
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    blaadee man wrote:
    Is it at all possible that after accelerating such a generator, it is able to drive itself and also generate electricity?

    No, you can't. Unfortunately, here's what he says @sparker ;
    anders11 wrote:
    the question is the result of not providing the appropriate knowledge at the education stage, or not looking for it on your own.

    Is truth. A few years ago I had an order to build a similar "invention" with a slightly different drive (BLDC motor). Ordering party mgr. Eng. he did not accept that the operation of such devices is a contradiction of the laws of physics and has no right to work. Unfortunately, these are the effects of a significantly low level of teaching/knowledge.
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    jarek_lnx
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    Even if someone has not learned the principle of conservation of energy, a bit of logical thinking is enough, electric machines (motors and generators) were invented well over a hundred years ago, since then a huge number of engineers around the world have been working on improving these machines, how did it happen that no the field of free energy generators has developed, why are they not in every car, fridge, phone? If it's so simple that any ragged man in primitive conditions can do it, then why doesn't anyone do it professionally? Why don't they build power plants on this principle? Why do people invest in expensive energy sources such as photovoltaics, wind or nuclear power plants, if there were methods for free energy. All those people working in the energy and electrical machinery production industry, from ordinary technicians through engineers to CEOs, should be called fools who do not take advantage of the opportunity to earn money on free energy, probably millions of people work in these industries on a global scale, some very intelligent, others very rich and not one has made a fortune from free energy.
    Probably something with this free energy is wrong - every reasonable person will think.

    I am most pleased by the stories of those poor PM inventors who already have some success, but need an investor to finance a large fully working model, I am happy because I read that a hundred years ago PM constructors cheated in exactly the same way.
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    tajwoj
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    It was the same with the philosopher's stone and the turning of lead into gold.
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    tajwoj
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    But not a philosopher's stone.
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    atom1477 wrote:
    But there are also those that can succeed, only technology has to mature for it.
    Are you talking about superconductivity for example? A superconductor can transmit electricity without loss, but "you can't get out more than you put in". And this is supposed to be the idea of a perpetual motion machine...
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    Oh, almost okay.
    Occasion gifts:
    Who said:
    "Dreams like birds soar in the sky... and when it rains they don't soar"?
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    Madrik
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    398216 Usunięty wrote:

    "... and when it rains, they don't glide"?


    No, because there are no thermals then, and moisture deteriorates both the aerodynamic and thermal insulation properties of the feathers... ;)
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    I think everything on the subject has already been written. closing.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion centers around the feasibility of free energy generators, particularly those showcased in YouTube videos claiming to produce excess energy. Participants express skepticism, citing the laws of thermodynamics and the principle of conservation of energy, asserting that perpetual motion machines are impossible. Several contributors suggest that the designs presented in the videos are likely scams, pointing out inconsistencies and lack of evidence for their functionality. Some recommend building simpler devices to test the principles involved, while others emphasize the absence of successful free energy technologies in practical applications, questioning why such inventions are not widely adopted if they were viable.
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FAQ

TL;DR: No—12 bulbs × 100 W = 1.2 kW, yet in the video "the generator does not participate." Belt slack signals no real load; a self-running 230 V generator violates energy conservation. [Elektroda, jarek_lnx, post #19299125]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps DIYers, students, and curious viewers assess “free-energy” 230 V generator claims and avoid costly scams.

Quick Facts

Can a 230 V generator power itself and a load after a kickstart?

No. A generator cannot produce more power than the system supplies. Losses in copper, iron, bearings, belts, and electronics ensure net loss. Any loop will slow and stop as losses exceed feedback. As one expert put it, “The generator cannot run itself.” Treat perpetual motion claims as false. [Elektroda, vodiczka, post #19298916]

Are YouTube “free‑energy” generator videos credible?

Scrutinize the mechanics and the load. In a cited case, the belt’s slack side hung loose while 12 bulbs were lit. The presenter claimed large output, yet the belt clearly did not transmit matching torque. The analyst concluded “it is a scam” and that the generator was not powering the devices. [Elektroda, jarek_lnx, post #19299125]

What do slack belts and bulb math tell me about the load?

Do the math, then look at the belt. Twelve 100 W bulbs equal about 1.2 kW. Transmitting that at ~1500 rpm needs around 150 N on the belt. A visibly slack belt cannot deliver that force, so the generator is not carrying the shown load. “The generator does not participate.” [Elektroda, jarek_lnx, post #19299125]

Why is one V‑belt on a “12 kW” setup a red flag?

In practice, even 4–7.5 kW machines often run two V‑belts on larger pulleys. Seeing a single belt on a claimed 12 kW rig signals a mismatch. The drive cannot credibly transmit the stated power, so the claim fails a basic plausibility check. [Elektroda, jarek_lnx, post #19299125]

What editing trick exposes fake “self‑running” demos?

Watch for a hard cut right when the presenter unplugs the external supply. That jump conceals a hidden change, like reconnecting a battery or off‑camera source. As one reviewer said, “cheating is always there.” Rewind and step through that moment frame by frame. [Elektroda, 398216 Usunięty, post #19299195]

If I couple a 12 V motor to an alternator, will it loop indefinitely?

No. Motor and alternator losses guarantee net loss, regardless of motor type. A BLDC‑based build was commissioned and still could not sustain itself. “The operation of such devices is a contradiction of the laws of physics.” It will slow and stop without external energy. [Elektroda, ArturAVS, post #19301845]

How do I try a simple low‑voltage test?

  1. Build a small rig: a 12 V motor driving an alternator.
  2. Power the motor from a battery and load the alternator with lamps or resistors.
  3. Document results and share openly; you will observe losses prevent self‑running when looped. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19299047]

If free energy worked, why isn’t it in cars, fridges, or phones?

Electric machines have been refined for over a century by countless engineers. If self‑running generators worked, industry would deploy them everywhere. Instead, no products, plants, or devices use them, because the idea is flawed. That absence is decisive. [Elektroda, jarek_lnx, post #19303429]

Will superconductors or stronger magnets make a self‑running generator possible?

No. Superconductors can reduce electrical loss, but they do not create energy. As noted, “you can’t get out more than you put in.” Better materials improve efficiency, not violate conservation of energy. Claims otherwise are pseudoscience. [Elektroda, 398216 Usunięty, post #19304958]

Is this like a space elevator—just waiting for technology?

No. A space elevator is hard but does not break physics. A self‑running generator does. Technology maturity can solve engineering challenges, not fundamental law violations. Grouping them together misleads people about what is possible. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19305239]

Why do many inventors ask for investors before showing a full build?

It’s a classic pattern in perpetual‑motion pitches. Promoters claim partial success, then ask for funds to build a “final” model. That tactic appeared a century ago and persists today. The absence of a working, verifiable device is telling. [Elektroda, jarek_lnx, post #19303429]

Bottom line: free‑energy 230 V generator—true or false?

False. Self‑running generators contradict the conservation of energy and do not work in practice. Experienced builders confirm this across motor types, including BLDC. Focus on verifiable efficiency improvements instead of impossible loops. [Elektroda, ArturAVS, post #19301845]
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