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Why Does a 12-Lead 230/460V Motor Run at 380V 50Hz Without De-Rating? Ground Role?

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Why does a standard 230/460V 12-lead motor run at 380V 50Hz with a 1.15 service factor, and what is the purpose of grounding the tied leads?

The grounded bundle on leads 4-5-6-10-11-12 is being used as the neutral/star point of the special 12-lead connection, and the note says that when operating above 600 V the neutral on 1.732 × low voltage must be solidly grounded [#21660116] [#21660117] A continuity or “short” reading to ground does not necessarily mean the motor is bad, because at DC a motor winding can measure like a short through the coil [#21660119] [#21660122] The replies do not fully explain the 380 V, 50 Hz no-derating behavior, and they point you to the NEMA standard 12-lead connection diagram and the installation documentation for the exact wiring [#21660120] [#21660122]
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  • Ground connection causes dead short in motor wiring

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A discussion centers on why a standard 12-lead 230/460V 60Hz motor can operate at 380V 50Hz without de-rating, using a special connection involving grounding. The motor's 12 leads are connected as follows: Leg 1 (2-8), Leg 2 (3-9), Leg 3 (1-7), with leads 4, 5, 6, 10, 11, and 12 tied together and connected to ground. A note mentions operating at 1.732 times the low voltage, implying a neutral voltage over 600V that must be solidly grounded. The connection is neither a standard Wye, Delta, nor Star configuration, and the manufacturer’s instructions only reference an internal connection diagram without detailed explanation. Concerns arise about measuring continuity or apparent shorts between leads and ground, which may be due to measuring across motor coils at DC. The grounding role is critical for safety and proper operation at the elevated voltage level. Reference to a NEMA standard diagram for 12-lead motors is suggested for further understanding. No specific model or brand details are provided.
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