Definition and Determination of Coupling Length in Multiconductor Shielded Cables

285 6

#1 21677710 28 Jul 2017 07:19

Emmanuel Kazeera Emmanuel Kazeera

Anonymous

Post #1
21677710 28 Jul 2017 07:19

Hi, I am responsible for trying a new test for transfer impedance of a multiconductor shielded cable but I am not familiar with some of the terminology. What is the coupling lenght of a sample of cable wire and how is it deteremined?
ADVERTISEMENT
#2 21677711 02 Aug 2017 19:42

Neil Mula Neil Mula

Anonymous

Post #2
21677711 02 Aug 2017 19:42

Hi Emmanuel,

Cable wires and coupling length, can you expound more of this case? It seems you are into a transmission lines topic related to electromagnetics. Images if you do have, so that some experts here can also help. Thanks

Best,
Neil
ADVERTISEMENT
Clarifying coupling length for transfer impedance tests
#3 21677712 03 Aug 2017 05:11

Emmanuel Kazeera Emmanuel Kazeera

Anonymous

Clarifying coupling length for transfer impedance tests
Post #3 21677712 03 Aug 2017 05:11

Thanks Neil,
This is not a transmission cable but rather a datacom cable that happens to be shielded. It is a multiconductor cable. However when testing for transfer impedance, the coupling length is required (Triaxial Chamber method ). I understand that coupling has to do with the transfer of energy between two adjacent wave paths but am not so sure what "coupling length" refers to. This is in the arena of electromagnetism.
Coupling length depends on cable materials and setup
#4 21677713 04 Aug 2017 20:16

Neil Mula Neil Mula

Anonymous

Coupling length depends on cable materials and setup
Post #4 21677713 04 Aug 2017 20:16

Yes, it is in electromagnetism in which this coupling length depends on the given parameters in order to have it. Multiconductor cables are in different forms/setup including materials that may effect the coupling.

Try to check this resource link -> "Coupling Length('')":http://przyrbwn.icm.edu.pl/APP/PDF/116/a116z462.pdf

Thus, cables related to electromagnetism is quite tough because it is not limited to measurements alone but also the materials that needs to be considered. EMC experts can facilitate or further discuss this issue.

Hope it helps.

Best,
Neil
ADVERTISEMENT
Standards should define coupling length test setup
#5 21677714 04 Aug 2017 22:29

richard gabric richard gabric

Anonymous

Standards should define coupling length test setup
Post #5 21677714 04 Aug 2017 22:29

Firstly, all cables are transmission lines.
You are presumable testing to a standard that exists, IEC, or whatever, the standards normally define the terminology and test parameters, if they don't, that is a bad oversight on the part of the standards authority.
I assume that the test setup for measuring transfer impedance includes some form of cylindrical conductor through which the cable being tested is threaded, and that it probably has a defined length for the test, which may be the coupling length.
As I said, standards normally carefully layout the test parameters, so the information should be there,
cheers,
Richard
ADVERTISEMENT
1 m test length as coupling length estimate
#6 21677715 06 Aug 2017 15:11

richard gabric richard gabric

Anonymous

1 m test length as coupling length estimate
Post #6 21677715 06 Aug 2017 15:11

Hi again,
have a look at the file enclosed, it has some info that may be of use Note, as I said before, all cables behave like transmission lines, so although this paper discusses HV power lines, it makes no difference as far as the electromagnetics is concerned, all that changes is the characteristic impedance. I believe that in talking about a 1m test length, that this is the coupling length. This is not my area of expertise, if necessary, talk to people that do standards testing, they should be able to clarify what it is you want to know,
cheers,
Richard
#7 21677716 08 Aug 2017 06:39

Emmanuel Kazeera Emmanuel Kazeera

Anonymous

Post #7
21677716 08 Aug 2017 06:39

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the file. On further inspection, the network analyzer gives a description of what the coupling length is in regards to the sample under test. It turns out the coupling length is the same as the sample length under stress. So yes the coupling length is 1m and when we got close to the desired results when we went with that.
Create an account, log in here. You will receive points by participating in discussions.
Join this discussion.

Install Elektroda application

Didn't find an answer? Ask Artificial Intelligence (AI)

*I agree to send the question to OpenAI, Google LLC - owners of language models in order to prepare the best response. The companies may monitor and log information entered into the form.

*I agree to publicly display my question and answer. The question and answer will be publicly available to everyone. The process may take a few minutes. Upon completion, you will be redirected to the page with the answer.

Wait...(2min)

Topic summary

The discussion clarifies the definition and determination of coupling length in multiconductor shielded cables during transfer impedance testing, specifically using the Triaxial Chamber method. Coupling length refers to the length of the cable sample under test that is subjected to electromagnetic stress and energy transfer between conductors. It is effectively the physical length of the cable segment used in the measurement setup, commonly 1 meter. The coupling length is critical in electromagnetics and transmission line theory, influencing transfer impedance results. Standards such as IEC typically define test parameters including coupling length, which corresponds to the test sample length threaded through the test apparatus. The coupling length depends on cable construction, materials, and test configuration. Network analyzer documentation confirms that the coupling length equals the stressed sample length, validating the 1-meter test length used in practice.
AI summary based on the discussion. May contain errors.

Definition and Determination of Coupling Length in Multiconductor Shielded Cables

Didn't find an answer? Ask Artificial Intelligence (AI)

Topic summary