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36V Zigbee MOES bus control - how do I connect a module and a bell button?

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  • #1 21829898
    matwrz
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    Hello!

    I am very much asking for your help, as my knowledge is unfortunately not sufficient in this area and I don't know what to do anymore....

    I have bought 36V magnetic busbars in my flat, Zigbee communication, I also have a Zigbee gateway (MOES). I would like to be able to control the busbars both from a button on the wall and from the control panel/app. As I understand it, this requires constant power supplied to the busbar power supply.

    Currently, I have these busbars connected to a wall switch. In order to be able to have a constant power supply there, I bought a short-circuit/momentary/bell switch (you name it).
    For this I also bought a Zigbee module with the option of connecting a push button.

    The question is:
    1. Is my thinking and the description above correct and is the whole thing allowed to work?
    2. If so, how do I connect the module and the power supply to the busbars so that they are always "on" and react to being switched on using the momentary switch, while also allowing control via the panel/telephone - I understand that if I want the busbars to always be live, I have to branch them off before the button?


    Two Girier Zigbee switch modules with COM/NO/NC and L/N terminals, plus Tuya and ZigBee 3.0 logos
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  • #2 21830412
    elktrod
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    matwrz wrote:
    I understand that if I want the busbars to be live at all times, I need to branch them off before the pushbutton?
    You make a good point - for that, all I need to do is branch off the power on the junction blocks permanently before any controls (pushbuttons)....
    matwrz wrote:
    Actually, I have these busbars drawn to the wall switch. In order to be able to have a constant power supply there, I bought a short-circuit/momentary/bell switch (you name it). For this I also bought a Zigbee module with the option of connecting a push button.
    But for this I have already written above, you only need to distribute the voltage on the connection cubes and you don't need a push button or a module, but if you want you can do it anyway. But what's the point of employing a module and a button to just apply voltage to the busbars? I ask because I don't know the principle of your roller shutters, whether you have them or not and how many buttons are or are to be controlled? I ask because I imagine that for mechanical control you need at least two buttons and three wires and three contacts: one common and up and down to change the direction of the motors, i.e. the direction of the roller shutters down or up, and your button probably only has two contacts and there is one? Link Well unless the control is or will be relays or contactors and alternate up and down with one button? What is the role of the busbars in all this - maybe the blinds work (are supposed to work) sideways on them at your place? Maybe you should draw your project in the best way you can, taking into account the individual components you have and, above all, show them with photos, labels, contacts (terminal plates) so that we know what you have, because you know what you have and we know nothing, not even about the roller shutter motors, whether AC or DC or stepper and with what and how they are controlled: manually, remotely, by radio, infrared, etc., etc.? I'm a visual person by nature and if I can't see what I'm dealing with I also don't understand a lot of things or I'm mistaken in my ideas of what you have, probably that's why no one has spoken up so far on your topic given in too general terms without giving details....
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  • #3 21830676
    matwrz
    Level 9  
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    Thank you for your reply and apologies if the description was unclear. My electrical knowledge is at a very low level, so a lot of the things I have planned may turn out to be quite nonsensical. Here, I'm not aiming to control the roller shutters; it's just about controlling the lights - the buses.

    In general, the aim is to have these busbars available/visible in the app all the time. I assumed that if they were simply plugged into a standard on/off switch, then if I turned them off with a 'button on the wall', I wouldn't turn them on from the app. Hence the idea of a bell type button and in addition a dry contact type module - because here again my guess is, if I just used a bell button, power would only be supplied to the busbars when the button is pressed, which is obviously not what I want.

    In which case I assume this makes sense and has the right to work? :)

    Thanks in advance for your reply and willingness to help.
  • #4 21831435
    elktrod
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    Wiring diagram for a 1CH Zigbee switch module with COM/NO/NC, L and N terminals, and S1 switch
    Yes - it will work for you to just switch the power on and off to the busbars via this module from the button when you connect it as drawn as well as remotely provided it is designed to work remotely, because from what you've shown I'm not sure, probably a link to it would be more helpful, for I don't see a Reset/Pair button or radio or other communication symbol on it itself.... Admittedly there is something like that next to the word TUYA, but the logo of that company inherently has that stamp, well I also encounter that sometimes we buy not what we want, especially on a well known portal....
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