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Locating Underground PVC Water Pipes: Seeking Device Recommendations and Keywords

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  • #1 3115424
    kozak-mp3
    Level 12  
    As the topic...

    I need to locate where my water pipe goes from the well to the house (about 600 meters). Unfortunately, the pipes are made of PVC or plastic... at least they are not metal, so a metal detector is not necessary. I don't even know how to look for it because I don't know what such a device could be called...

    So if someone wants to bash me for this topic and send me to the search engine, at least provide me with some keywords that will help me find what I'm looking for. Because when I say "detector", "pipe detector", "ultrasonic detector", etc., I only find metal detectors or ultrasonic distance measuring devices... Maybe I was looking in the wrong place, but as I wrote above, I don't even know what to look for...

    And if such a device does not exist yet, could one be made? just using ultrasound? or microwave? Archaeologists have some devices that can find various objects underground... I need something that will detect whether there is something in the ground or not.

    Please help.
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  • #2 3115509
    submariner
    Level 32  
    the simplest way is a lance - a skewer :) archaeological ones do not detect small objects and not metal ones, you can try something with ultrasound - transmitter in a pipe filled with water and search with the receiver where it is loudest
  • #3 3115735
    QTASSO
    Level 13  
    such an archaeological device is called a shovel and if you make a little effort you will find the pipe down to the centimeter and by the way this pipe probably goes straight from the well to the house without any zigzags so what's the problem you can call a guy who is looking for water with a pendulum or make a pendulum yourself :)
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  • #4 3123732
    TTOM
    Level 12  
    such a detector exists and is called geological radar - the problem is that it costs a lot of money - probably hundreds of thousands :)
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  • #5 3124383
    alnus
    Level 28  
    If someone had done the installation correctly, they would have buried a blue polyethylene tape with a steel insert together with the plastic water pipe - just so that the pipe could be located with a detector. if someone hasn't done it, you can try a device called a geophone (I'm not sure if I'm making it up), but in any case it is a microphone with a special design that is placed on the ground and the noise level of water flowing in the pipe is analyzed. of course, the water must be flowing during this time, and it is even better to install an exciter of a certain frequency at the accessible end of the water pipe (so that it propagates nicely in the water), which can then be searched for with this microphone.
  • #6 3124456
    shg
    Level 35  
    Ultrasound is also good, but it must be a device that does not show distance but analyzes all reflections. Perfect here chirp z-transform (I don't know how it works in our language), but it is quite a complicated issue in the field of DSP and the "on-board computer" of such a detector must have considerable computing power.

    In archeology, soil resistance measurement is also used. In this method, any irregularities indicate that the structure of the earth underneath is different than in the rest of the area. The system here is quite simple, although I don't know what the ground resistance is, but even a measurement of up to several dozen Mom can be done quite easily. The device looks like a trolley, two wheels at the front and two spikes at the back, driven into the ground with each measurement (distance between spikes approx. 1 m). Then the results are uploaded to the computer and, for example, deviations from the average resistance value are distinguished.
    The problem here is the low resolution, the better the horizontal resolution you want (smaller the spacing of the spikes), the smaller the range in terms of depth. However, if the soil structure is different even at a small depth (after all, the trench was dug, the soil was mixed and the trench was filled in), there is a fairly good chance of detecting it.
    A "manual bulk material conveyor" is equally suitable for this purpose. All you need is a fairly shallow ditch around the well and you already know which direction the pipe runs, and then just follow the traces of digging.

    Of course, the result depends on how long ago the pipe was laid, but I think that detection even after 20 years (both using resistance measurements and the shovel + eye set) should not be a problem. Archaeologists use resistance measurements to detect foundations at a depth of a meter laid centuries ago, so it's not that bad :]
  • #7 3137765
    Darkoe
    Level 19  
    Hello.
    I also had such a problem, the water pipe was plastic, you located it, the so-called the dowser finds all watercourses flawlessly
    I suggest finding one
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  • #8 4509164
    magicmushroom
    Level 11  
    Hello.
    1. Aren't there any plans? It seems to me that before laying such a pipe, an appropriate design and some documentation should be prepared.
    2. Some kind of echo sounder or something like that, I probably once saw in "Unbelievable" how they "scanned" the interior of the earth with a device that showed cavities in the ground, etc. maybe some company deals with this.
    3. According to In my opinion, the best way, without incurring additional costs, as someone mentioned above, is to use a spade. If you dig from where the pipe starts, you will trace it along its entire length.
    4. When it comes to checking in one place, simply using a piece of rod turns out to be the simplest and effective method.
    Regards
  • #9 4509382
    janek1815
    Level 38  
    if you do it on your plot, there are no plans, unfortunately. If you have money, contact the Water and Sewage Company in your city. They have devices that can easily find your pipe. That's what they do when they're looking for damage and illegal cuts. You don't have money, buy a shovel, it's a good thing and one beer is enough for them.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around locating underground PVC water pipes extending approximately 600 meters from a well to a house. Various methods and devices are suggested, including using a lance or skewer for manual probing, employing geological radar for more precise detection, and utilizing geophones to analyze noise from flowing water. Some participants recommend traditional methods like digging or using a dowser, while others mention the potential of ultrasound technology for detecting pipe locations. The conversation highlights the challenges of finding non-metal pipes and suggests contacting local water companies for professional assistance if budget allows.
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