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Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages?

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  • #1 5434602
    Sija
    Level 13  
    I have a question about the power supply from an old PC. Do computer power supplies provide alternating or direct current? And how to recognize which cables provide which voltages? If such/a similar post has already appeared, I apologize in advance and in such a case please provide a supporting link.
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  • #2 5434626
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    They only provide direct current. In a typical power supply that has connectors for powering hard drives and drives, the red wires are +5V and the yellow wires are +12V. Black is mass. However, it is best (if you may have a different type) to measure individual output voltages with a meter.
    I know that even older ones had blue cables for +12V.
    In addition, there were also voltages -12V and -5V (with low current efficiency).
  • #3 5434645
    Quarz
    Level 43  
    Sija wrote:
    I have a question about the power supply from an old PC. Do computer power supplies provide alternating or direct current?
    Constant, and the tensions are - for better or worse - stabilized.

    Sija wrote:
    And how to recognize which cables provide which voltages? If such/a similar post has already appeared, I apologize in advance and in such a case please provide a supporting link and close the topic.
    Look HERE and OVER THERE and OVER THERE , where you need to find an appropriate connector to end the cable coming from the PC power supply.
    You didn`t write here what form this power supply is; AT or ATX, and their connectors intended for connection to the motherboard differ fundamentally.
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  • #4 5434863
    Sija
    Level 13  
    I don`t know if it is AT or ATX. The power supply was connected to the motherboard with 2 identical (6-pin) cables. Below are the photos:

    Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages?

    Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages?

    Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages?

    PS. I also have a question: Is it possible to somehow modify this power supply to provide 12V AC voltage?
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    #5 5434886
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    Sija wrote:
    I don`t know if it`s AT or ATX. The power supply was connected to the motherboard with 2 identical (6-pin) cables.

    It`s definitely AT. It should also have a power switch or cables going out to it. These two 6-pin connectors were plugged into the motherboard. In addition, there should be 4-pin connectors with +5V and +12V power supply, which I wrote about earlier.
    In 6-pin connectors, black is ground, red is +5V, white -5V, yellow +12V, blue -12V (I just checked it on a similar power supply).
    Here is a sketch from a certain website.
    Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages?

    Sija wrote:
    Would it be possible to somehow modify this power supply to provide 12V AC voltage?

    Why complicate your life when you can easily buy a 12V AC transformer?
  • #6 5434943
    Quarz
    Level 43  
    Sija wrote:
    I don`t know if it`s AT or ATX. The power supply was connected to the motherboard with 2 identical (6-pin) cables. Below are the photos:

    Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages?

    PS. I also have a question: Is it possible to somehow modify this power supply to provide 12V AC voltage?
    This is definitely a Forma AT power supply.
    Alternating voltage at what frequency?
  • #7 5435171
    Sija
    Level 13  
    The frequency is irrelevant as long as it produces approximately the same frequency as the simplest 220V/12V mains transformer. I don`t want to buy a transformer, I have no money and I`m afraid I might damage it. Is there any (reasonably easy) way to change from DC to AC??

    PS. In fact, there is a thick black wire coming out of it, which ends with a switch. And as zybex wrote, these tips match perfectly. Only there is an orange cable (marked PG in the sketch) What is it for?
  • #8 5435227
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    Sija wrote:
    Only there is an orange cable (marked PG in the sketch) What is it for?

    This is some control related to the motherboard. It`s of no use to you. Just don`t bother with this derivation. If you want to see it in a diagram, look at any AT diagram.
    There is no point in building a converter that would change the sats into variable ones. It`s easier to buy a small halogen power supply (electronic) for about PLN 20. However, I do not prefer such inventions. Just two days ago, a neighbor had such a power supply. I gave him a toroidal transformer and he will have it forever.
    The one I mentioned that "flew" is very small and has a current efficiency of 8.8A at an output of ~11.5V.
    What current efficiency do you need for these 12V?
  • #9 5435449
    Sija
    Level 13  
    Sorry for asking such stupid questions, but everyone started somewhere. And what is this current efficiency? And if I were to buy the simplest transformer, what would its price be (approximately) and is it easily available, i.e. I live in a small town and there is one electronics store offering maintenance services and also selling various types of electronic components (I bought diodes there UV and resistors). I mean a specific, easily available model.

    PS. I want to power this transformer: Link
  • #10 5435489
    Alf73
    Level 12  
    Sija wrote:
    Sorry for asking such stupid questions, but everyone started somewhere. And what is this current efficiency? And if I were to buy the simplest transformer, what would its price be (approximately) and is it easily available, i.e. I live in a small town and there is one electronics store offering maintenance services and also selling various types of electronic components (I bought diodes there UV and resistors). I mean a specific, easily available model.

    There are 2 basic parameters
    1- voltage at which the device operates
    2- current needed for proper operation
    You have a huge database on the Internet with electronic items, lots of stores; If you want some links to stores, write me a PM :)
  • #11 5435554
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    You can buy a transformer, for example a toroidal one, in any electrical store, because it is used to power halogen bulbs. There are various powers, e.g. 60VA, 80VA or even 200VA and more.
  • #12 5436495
    Sija
    Level 13  
    Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages? When it comes to such a transformer, I have a very similar one removed from the monitor, the same one from which I removed the transformer multiplier.
  • #13 5442620
    Sija
    Level 13  
    I have a question about this power supply. If I want to connect a 12V bulb to it, should I connect it to +12 and -12 or to 12 and ground?
  • #14 5442630
    Quarz
    Level 43  
    Sija wrote:
    I have a question about this power supply. If I want to connect a 12V bulb to it, should I connect it to +12 and -12 or to 12 and ground?
    All voltages provided on the pins of the PC power supply are relative to the common ground potential - black wires.
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    #15 5443443
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    Sija wrote:
    If I want to connect a 12V bulb to it, should I connect it to +12 and -12 or to 12 and ground?

    You connect the bulb to ground (GND) and +12V. Add the negative voltage you mentioned and you would have 24V. The bulb would probably burn out. This is actually not a symmetrical power supply, because +12V voltage has high efficiency, and -12V has low efficiency.
  • #16 5528645
    Sija
    Level 13  
    Can anyone tell me what the current efficiency of this power supply is? I mainly care about the current because I wanted to use it to make an electrolyzer and it needs 2A and a voltage of about 3-4V.
  • #17 5528737
    Quarz
    Level 43  
    Sija wrote:
    Can anyone tell me what the current efficiency of this power supply is? I mainly care about the current because I wanted to use it to make an electrolyzer and it needs 2A and a voltage of about 3-4V.
    Can you read? Look:
    Do PC ATX Power Supplies Output AC or DC Current and How to Identify Cable Voltages?
    I guess this is a photo of the power supply in question and posted by you?
  • #18 5528948
    Sija
    Level 13  
    I actually didn`t notice. And what resistor should I use to obtain 4.5V and 3.6A from a voltage of 12V and a current of 10A? i.e. reduce the initial voltage and current values by 2.7 times? Can I use a regular rotary potentiometer instead of a resistor? CAN ANYONE HELP??!!

Topic summary

Computer power supplies provide direct current (DC) rather than alternating current (AC). In typical AT power supplies, the red wires indicate +5V, yellow wires indicate +12V, and black wires serve as ground. Some older models may also have blue wires for -12V and white for -5V. Users are advised to measure output voltages with a multimeter for accuracy. Modifying a power supply to output 12V AC is discouraged; instead, purchasing a dedicated AC transformer is recommended. When connecting devices, the positive voltage should be connected to +12V and the ground to black wires. The efficiency of the power supply is a concern for specific applications, such as powering an electrolyzer, which requires careful consideration of voltage and current ratings.
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