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Catalytic Gas Stove for Winter Room Heating: Safety, Exhaust Gas, and Gas Cylinder Efficiency

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  • #1 5485302
    osik
    Level 14  
    Catalytic Gas Stove for Winter Room Heating: Safety, Exhaust Gas, and Gas Cylinder Efficiency

    I want to buy a catalytic gas stove for the winter to heat up the room I'm sitting in. :D
    I am asking for opinions on the safety [exhaust gas] and efficiency of the gas cylinder [how many hours it lasts].
    p.s. I'm not talking about the brand of the product in the photo
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  • #2 5487330
    William Bonawentura
    Level 34  
    osik wrote:
    Catalytic Gas Stove for Winter Room Heating: Safety, Exhaust Gas, and Gas Cylinder Efficiency

    I want to buy a catalytic gas stove for the winter to heat up the room I'm sitting in. :D
    I am asking for opinions on the safety [exhaust gas] and efficiency of the gas cylinder [how many hours it lasts].
    p.s. I'm not talking about the brand of the product in the photo


    I strongly advise against it. You use very expensive LPG fuel, you consume oxygen from the room (so you have to ventilate strongly during burning), combustion provides a large amount of water vapor. This is suitable for heating a garage or a car park, but not a room. Electricity will be cheaper.
  • #3 5487608
    serwisant73
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    You would have to have ventilation in this room that would provide you with at least 1 full air exchange per hour. But in that case, why heat...
  • #4 5489475
    osik
    Level 14  
    As for the steam in the room, I will not agree because it is the fault of the lack of a catalyst.
    Is it more expensive? Some say yes others say yes....

    Do you have such a stove and you write this from your own experience?
  • #5 5490820
    elektryk2000
    Refrigeration equipment specialist
    I used something like this in a stationary car, not in a passenger car ;) It was very cool because it was very warm ;)
    You can temporarily, but as a permanent source of heat in the house, I would not decide ...
  • #6 5490858
    William Bonawentura
    Level 34  
    osik wrote:
    As for the steam in the room, I will not agree because it is the fault of the lack of a catalyst.
    Is it more expensive? Some say yes others say yes....

    Do you have such a stove and you write this from your own experience?


    The catalyst does not remove water vapor, only carbon oxides. My uncle had such a stove, but he only started it for 30 minutes in the morning before he lit the coal stove because the humidity increased immediately. As of today, LPG and electricity in the 24-hour tariff are identical, but with intensive ventilation at the catalytic furnace, it will be more expensive.
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  • #7 5492094
    osik
    Level 14  
    I used to have a tiled stove in the room but I demolished it.
    I miss him now :/ but I wouldn't want him anyway :]
    There was a plastered chimney hole in the wall.
    Would it be possible to conjure up the ventilation of this furnace? get some hmmm, I don't know what :/
    Any idea?
  • #8 5492604
    William Bonawentura
    Level 34  
    osik wrote:
    I used to have a tiled stove in the room but I demolished it.
    I miss him now :/ but I wouldn't want him anyway :]
    There was a plastered chimney hole in the wall.
    Would it be possible to conjure up the ventilation of this furnace? get some hmmm, I don't know what :/
    Any idea?


    Buy a boiler with a closed combustion chamber and connect through a hole in the wall. With a radiator, you will fit in PLN 3,000.
  • #9 5493157
    osik
    Level 14  
    William Bonawentura wrote:
    Buy a boiler with a closed combustion chamber and connect through a hole in the wall. With a radiator, you will fit in PLN 3,000.

    :lol: :turn-l: :lol:
    Minus one zero...
    for most normal people in this country, the amount of PLN 3,000 for a stove is space ... and for me.
  • #10 5668044
    donpassatos
    Level 12  
    I bought the first catalytic stove "Agni" in 2000. (I didn't want a ceramic insert - too small heating surface).
    In March, CO fell on me and I had to wait until spring by heating a 17m2 room in the attic, with frosts reaching even around -10C. Gas consumption about 1 cylinder per week, with the stove on for about 8-10 hours. per day, of course, the furnace worked intermittently. I still use it to heat the room in spring and autumn. With such additional heating, the cylinder is enough for 1.5 months. At the start, I set the stove to the largest range III, so for 5 minutes to warm up the catalyst, and then it runs on the smallest range, in my opinion this is the best solution. Setting the stove to the 2nd or 3rd range is a waste of gas and money.
    Because "Agni" was beating fire more and more at the start, due to a clogged catalyst, I decided to buy a second catalytic stove, this time from DeLonghi SC85.
    I found that the heating surface of the catalyst is similar in both furnaces, so why overpay for "Agni".
    I was wrong, because by heating up with the "DeLonghi SC85" stove, you can see higher gas consumption, 1 cylinder per month. The stove heats up less, I usually set it on the second range, and after 20-30 min. I'm just switching to the first range - the weakest heating. I have the impression that the heat somehow worse, spreads around the room. So, the "Agni" stove is better. I used to fall asleep with the stove on. It's hard to breathe at night, and I usually wake up because of it. It is true that the furnace also turned itself off due to the lack of oxygen in the air. Then the best ventilation is to open a door or window for a few moments to supply oxygen. Leaky windows and doors cannot provide enough fresh air to keep the stove burning. The temperature of the heated catalyst is about 300C, with its heating surface of about 42cm x 36cm, it is an interesting heating solution.
    Certainly, it is much cheaper heating than heating with electricity.
  • #11 5912102
    osik
    Level 14  
    donpassatos wrote:
    At the start, I set the stove to the largest range III, so for 5 minutes to warm up the catalyst, and then it runs on the smallest range, in my opinion this is the best solution. Setting the stove to the 2nd or 3rd range is a waste of gas and money.

    I can not, and this is probably because of the described below-clogged catalytic converter.
    I set it to I, wait for it to warm up, and after about 20 minutes I can only switch to III.

    donpassatos wrote:
    As "Agni" began to fire more and more on take-off due to a clogged catalytic converter,


    It's strange because I bought a new [post-exhibition] stove under warranty and from the first day it has such driving....
    I've already burned 5 bottles of gas and things have improved, but it's not quite ok.
    I'm going to send it in for warranty repair.
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  • #12 5989174
    desalutant
    Level 2  
    I have a question..
    I fired a new agni stove, only that it stood for 10 years and now when I fire it, it bursts with fire, and immediately goes out, I connected it without a reducer, is the reason for the lack of this reducer or is it a catalyst?
    if it is the catalytic converter, what needs to be done and is it worth repairing /??
  • #13 6241410
    donpassatos
    Level 12  
    OSIK - I don't know about such furnaces, I haven't even dismantled one yet - so I'm just thinking that when it starts to burst after a few years of work, it's the catalyst? But maybe the reason is different? Someone on the forum with this type of equipment service would be useful.
  • #15 9984393
    donpassatos
    Level 12  
    DeLonghi stove - illustrative photo.
    Catalytic Gas Stove for Winter Room Heating: Safety, Exhaust Gas, and Gas Cylinder Efficiency
  • #16 10445669
    gkuba911
    Level 2  
    Hello,

    I know I'm resurrecting an old topic, but I have a quick question, so it's rather pointless to start a new topic.

    I bought an agni catalytic stove to heat the garage and so far I am not delighted with its operation, I do not see the difference between the 2nd and 3rd heating level. I have a question, should the stove turn red at the highest level or not?

    I am asking because if I hold down this button, after a while the stove turns red for a moment, but I do not know if it is not some increase in the dose only for firing.

    Regards and I hope for an answer
  • #17 10447474
    donpassatos
    Level 12  
    There is a difference between the 2nd and 3rd level, especially in the rate of cylinder consumption :-) .
    Of course, the catalytic converter turns redder at 3.
    But it's not as clear red as in the central heating furnace. During the day you can't see the difference. This is best seen at night, start changing the ranges from 1 to 3, so every 3 minutes, you will see the glow range. And if the garage is airy, the stove may not keep up with heating.
    Pressing the key fully increases the dose - only for firing.
  • #18 10450309
    gkuba911
    Level 2  
    Thank you very much for your answer - so I will try the option with a fan behind the stove, maybe it will increase the heating efficiency a bit.
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  • #19 10450655
    Lubiany1100
    Level 10  
    Hello, I have a problem with the camila 3100 gas stove, so when I press the key all the way down and start the stove, after holding it for 20sec, I release it and the stove goes off what is the reason??
  • #21 10469027
    piracik
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Clean the element heated by the flame (thermocouple)
    If it has any pitting, cavities or the capillary is broken somewhere, replace the thermocouple.
    A universal thermocouple costs PLN 30 - 50
  • #22 10472353
    Lubiany1100
    Level 10  
    How can I check if it is damaged?
  • #23 10472445
    piracik
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Heat it up and check the voltage.
    As a rule, most often I come across a burnt element heated by a flame. It is something like a closed tube with a wire in it, which can be seen when the tube burns out.
    Just look for any damage, breaks, abrasions, cavities, cracks, etc.
    The cost of such a universal one is not cosmic, so you can take a chance.
    Measure the length you need before purchasing.
  • #24 10767773
    bosel
    Level 1  
    Can someone help the blonde
    I got a used agni catalytic furnace. It has 2 buttons. How to use it without causing an explosion etc. I tried to light it. However, I do not know what application and in what order to use the buttons placed there. I was able to light it once. A small flame - and after a while the flame bursts out and smells like gas. I don't know if it's my fault - bad service or the stove is to blame. I will be grateful for your help and answer

    Please correct spelling mistakes
    mod - mirzo
  • #25 10769563
    mirrzo

    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    bosel wrote:
    I got a used agni catalytic furnace .... it has a flame and smells like gas. I don't know if it's my fault - bad service or the stove is to blame.


    Probably a failed catalytic converter. So it will always smell. The stove is suitable for scrap.
    In addition, such inventions are not suitable for use in confined spaces. This is written in the instructions provided by the manufacturer.
  • #26 12756695
    Szymon Tarnowski
    Level 27  
    Question to the topic, I got an Agni stove for free, I planned to use it to heat the garage in winter. The stove was supposedly little used, but it stood for about 10 years in a rather dusty basement without starting it. Could this have affected the catalytic converter? It's a pity to buy a full bottle for testing.
  • #27 12758454
    piracik
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    I have one that has been standing for over 10 years. It fired up and worked without problems.
    It has been in the attic for over 10 years.
  • #28 12778301
    Szymon Tarnowski
    Level 27  
    I got a cylinder with the stove, there is some liquid gas at the bottom. I unscrew, hold the button, feel gas from the candle area, when I press the spark plug button, a spark appears but nothing starts.

    Do you need any higher pressure to start, because I do not know whether to invest in a refilled cylinder. I don't have any other propane-butane devices, it's a waste of money to drown in a filled cylinder as if this stove would not start.
  • #29 12778854
    piracik
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    There is always some liquid left in the bottle. water or oil. There was a topic about this once. It's possible that you already have an empty cylinder and the gas slowly flows smoothly enough that the candle note has fallen off.
  • #30 12796503
    Szymon Tarnowski
    Level 27  
    piracik wrote:
    There is always some liquid left in the bottle. water or oil. There was a topic about this once. It's possible that you already have an empty cylinder and the gas slowly flows smoothly enough that the candle note has fallen off.
    I tried to "pour" the rest and it turned out that it was gas. I bought a "new" full cylinder, plugged it in and it still won't start. I got pissed, checked the reducer, it was working, connected the foot pump to the hose and discovered that the burner nozzle was clogged. I dismantled the entire burner, found the nozzle, someone on the forum wrote that it is very difficult to clean it because it has a very narrow opening. True, the opening is very narrow, the nozzle itself is made of a brass "socket", and the actual nozzle is made of some glass-like material. I was able to clear the nozzle with compressed air and a sharp pin. Once assembled, the stove fires up nicely.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the use of catalytic gas stoves for room heating during winter, focusing on safety concerns, exhaust gas emissions, and gas cylinder efficiency. Participants express caution regarding the use of such stoves in enclosed spaces due to the consumption of oxygen and the production of water vapor. Ventilation is emphasized as crucial for safety, with recommendations for achieving adequate air exchange. Users share personal experiences with various models, noting issues like clogged catalytic converters and gas consumption rates. The Agni and DeLonghi brands are mentioned, with users reporting gas usage of approximately one cylinder per week for intermittent heating. Concerns about carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide emissions are raised, advocating for electric heating as a safer alternative.
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