Gas vs Kerosene Stove for 50m2 Room: Comparing Odor & Efficiency

Does anyone have and use a kerosene stove? Or is a gas stove better? Which leaves less smell? I need to heat a room of about 50 m2.

Hello.
a better stove, in my opinion, is a gas stove, lower operating costs and the smell does not emit as much as kerosene when filling the stove with kerosene, the smell is quite bothersome.

gsmangel wrote:

Does anyone have and use a kerosene stove? Or is a gas stove better? Which leaves less smell? I need to heat a room of about 50 m2.

None of these devices is suitable for heating living spaces (they produce huge amounts of steam, which leads to dampness). And in the garage or gazebo, the smell does not matter. The gas is probably less intense. For the home, buy a gas heater with discharge through the wall.

There are gas space heaters. Manufacturer MORA. Combustion air is drawn from the outside. Power up to 5 kW, so the flue gases can be legally thrown over the wall without fear. The only requirements are the distance from windows etc

please write some more.

http://www.mora.com.pl/ozdrowiecze-wnetrz-Pl.html
and
http://www.mora.com.pl/poradnik-26.html
Pretty much all the news here.
There was another producer of this thing, but he "came" from Poland in the summer

I am a user of 2 kerosene stoves for 4 seasons they are great!!!!
You write nonsense that moisture is nothing real in it. A gas stove emits very large amounts of water when burned. Oil stoves helped me fight the fungus on the walls - I have a non-insulated building. There are 2 types of wick type and fuel injected. The second one is much more economical, but twice as expensive in the purchase of about 700 zlotys for 1000 new ones. It does not emit an odor provided that the correct fuel is used. the operating price is from PLN 0.50 on the economic setting. For me, heating costs PLN 400 to PLN 600 per month in winter with an uninsulated one-story house with an area of 72m2. The wick stove additionally emits a sensational climate like a mini fireplace a lot of infrared radiation.

Sp5vyh wrote the quote "Nonsense you write that moisture is not real. A gas stove emits very large amounts of water when burning".
And what do you say gentlemen - who know at least the basics of burning hydrocarbons. And they are both oil and "gas".
My blood pressure skyrockets when I read articles like this.

I did not write that the kerosene stove does not emit moisture, but it is much less than in the case of gas! Also, I use a dehumidifier at home and know when it's humid and when it's not.

What haven't you written yet???
In short: if the device has no flue gas discharge outside, the flue gases, water, CO, CO2 and other garbage stays at home.
AND THERE IS NO MERCY

Have you heard of catalytic combustion? Have you seen such a stove from the inside? There are many sensors and the slightest deviation from the norm interrupts the combustion process! It is safe and does not emit anything that would be poisonous.

sp5vyh wrote:

Have you heard of catalytic combustion? Have you seen such a stove from the inside? There are many sensors and the slightest deviation from the norm interrupts the combustion process! It is safe and does not emit anything that would be poisonous.

Are you sure? Maybe read the manual for this thing. There you have it clearly written: what, when, where and why?

When I disassemble the injection stove next time, or maybe it will be this month, I will take photos of the inside of the combustion chamber, etc. I am sure we are talking about injection stoves not on the wick.

I don't really know the issue. But since I read that only heat is generated as a result of fuel combustion, I cannot resist commenting. And why is it burning? And if it takes place, the more accurate it is, the more oxygen-free products, i.e. a component of combustion, are produced. So it is absolutely necessary to bring oxygen (fresh air) into the room and remove the products of combustion. Catalysts only improve combustion accuracy, they do not change the process. People who did not take this into account are now resting in the cemetery. The paradox is that ventilation is avoided to save heat losses. Another issue is that the stove placed somewhere in the center of the room does not provide adequate air circulation (unlike central heating radiators) and the walls remain much cooler than the interior, which in turn causes moisture to accumulate. Generally, it seems to me that such a heating system can be treated as ad hoc and auxiliary.

If the stove is only an electronically controlled kerosene stove. The gas one emits a lot of moisture. I have a kerosene INVERTER 3003 myself, but good similar stoves are Kero, Tayosan. These are Japanese stoves with fuel injection and a double combustion chamber. The fuel is a special highly purified kerosene and practically odorless fractions aromatic of the order of 0.007g / g. (Tosaine) The stove copes well with my 60-meter apartment. Of course, the more rooms, the worse the heat dissipation throughout the apartment, and the colder it is outside, the higher the fuel consumption (on average in winter, 3 canisters of 20l per month )
Don't buy only from Unilux, they have terrible service technicians, they do everything to get to the end of the two-year warranty (they repaired the same defect 3 times and they did not remove it stubbornly claiming that everything was ok. After sending the furnace to the company's headquarters for repair or replacement, they sent back ... not repaired!!! The furnace still won't start but the warranty has expired and Unilux is now at peace...

Personally, I use a Kero wick heater and the only thing I'm interested in is buying fuel. It works great and there is not enough moisture to be a problem. I will say more, the humidity level when using the above-mentioned stove is 48-50% at a room temperature of 22-23 degrees. I do not feel the presence of combustion products, although CO, for example, is odorless. Consumption for a room of 35 m2 is an average of one 20 liter canister for 5 days. So it's not very economical. The stove is wick, so it uses more than electronic ones. The smell is perceptible only for a moment during lighting up for about 2-3 minutes. Naturally, with plastic windows without ventilation slots, they need to be slightly unsealed. If only dedicated fuel was a bit cheaper
Who has no alternative to warm up the "bones" I recommend a kerosene stove, and since I am still writing, it probably means that the stove is working properly.

Please read the instruction manual carefully
a kerosene stove. It says that the stove cannot be used
use in too small rooms (it is specified
min. limit 37m, besides, the room must be open-
not closed and above all ventilated, airy
i.e. either an adjustable vent in the window or leaky windows
(just leaky windows are great for such stoves).
When we meet these conditions - it's stoves and we have - we have
Okay.

I have a kerosene stove with a fan and electric support, I've been using it for 4 years and it's great! I have a question, is it possible to get some cheaper fuel for these stoves? friends in the netherlands buy petroleum fuel at a q8 gas station, it is much cheaper than those in hypermarkets and works well, it only smells when switched on and off.

I bow to p.15 of the regulations. Please correct and use in the future
mod -mirzo

katje wrote:

I have a kerosene stove with a fan and electric support, I've been using it for 4 years and it's great! I have a question, is it possible to get some cheaper fuel for these stoves? friends in the netherlands buy petroleum fuel at a q8 gas station, it is much cheaper than those in hypermarkets and works well, it only smells when switched on and off.

You poison yourself at your own risk but you better not mislead people that it's so good. Eating arsenic in small amounts will not cause death either, but the effects will be later. I'm surprised that someone voluntarily breathes such "fresh" air

Hello
I lived in Osaka for three years - it's such a big city in Japan. Due to earthquakes, there are no gas installations here. The only heating is electricity, but very expensive, or very popular kerosene heaters. Probably 90% of apartments in blocks of flats use these heaters. Me in an apartment of 44 sq.m. I had two Zibro stoves. They work great, provided that you do not forget to ventilate the apartment. Now in Warsaw I have one such stove / electronic / with a power of 3 kW. It provides me with heating the ground floor of a detached house. There is no smell of kerosene - because I fill the tank in the garage. When lighting and extinguishing, there is a smell of "as if a candle has not been extinguished properly" for a while, but only for 1-2 minutes.

Hello All Gentlemen!!!
I worked for a long time in eastern Ukraine, where these stoves were quite popular and I used it myself. However, the smell of kerosene could not be ruled out, but it did a great job. I would buy one myself today, but the prices are far beyond my today's possibilities, unless it's a stimulant, but how should I know how it was used. I know from personal experience that you can do all kinds of strange things with these stoves and I would not like to get such a stove, besides kerosene is quite difficult to obtain and the price is not tempting to buy. However, I would probably decide to use the stimulant anyway. That's why I rarely look here, but I'll be happy to answer questions, the more so that there is probably a fellow amateur here, judging by the nickname.
Cheers everyone and until next time.

I have been using the SRE 10xTC stove for a long time and I am very satisfied. There is no smell of kerosene at all, excluding the short moment of starting the heater itself. Good efficiency heats a room of approx. 35m2 without a problem and you have to turn it off often because it's too hot. It is true that there have not been such frosts down to -25 oC yet, but I think it should not be a problem. Calculated it's cheaper than wood and less hassle and gas would be good provided it was available nearby. Here I bring two canisters of Zibro and I have peace of mind for a month. On the tank approx. 5l. I play quietly for two or three days.

I tried to analyze the air blown out of the kerosene and gas stove in terms of safety of use.

I measured Kero KI3000E Laser Pro, ZIBRO LC130 stoves and a propane-butane catalytic gas heater.
The air blown out of kerosene stoves contains min. 19% oxygen,


while from gas 16%.


The dew point (PRs) is significantly lower for oil stoves, which means that gas stoves produce much more moisture.
Carbon monoxide was negligible in all cases.

Maybe an alternative, a pellet stove with a storage tank, unless there is no chimney

I used a gas catalytic heater to heat my apartment over 20 years ago. It was warm. Occasionally there was a slight smell of gas. I slept by this stove. I had plastic windows, I unsealed them at night when I went to sleep. I had no oil. Now I was looking for gas, home.

keseszel wrote:

I used a gas catalytic heater to heat my apartment over 20 years ago. It was warm. Occasionally there was a slight smell of gas. I slept by this stove. I had plastic windows, I unsealed them at night when I went to sleep. I had no oil. Now I was looking for gas, home.

If you sleep, it must be a stove with flue gas exhaust to the chimney!!! Exhaust fumes can cause poisoning! There are different "goats" for natural gas, with flue gas discharge to the chimney (flue gas draft).

[quote="mqy1"Here I bring two Zibro canisters and I have peace of mind for a month. On the tank approx. 5l. I keep warm for two or three days. [/quote] Oil (so also kerosene) has a very high calorific value.