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[Solved] Vertical Earth Electrode: 5-6m Long Rod/Pipe Installation Guide (2-Inch Diameter, Welding Tips)

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  • #1 6195820
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    Hello.
    Gentlemen, please advise. I would like to make a vertical earth electrode, for example, from a 5-6m long rod. or the pipe in which you are driving such long iron into the ground (ladder, hammer) may have a proven patent. If the pipe has a diameter of about 2 inches, then if it needs to be welded to the tip, it will be difficult to punch it without welding it to such a depth. Please help .
    Regards.
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  • #2 6195953
    mr.Sławek
    Level 32  
    For such a depth, it is rather not hammered, but it is drilled with a special device that may resemble an ordinary drill. Does it necessarily have to be a vertical earth electrode because it will be a bit hard to do with home methods and what will it be used for? to a depth of 1-2m, which will be easier to do and the results with the right number of poles will not be too bad either.
  • #3 6195957
    lehoo1
    Level 13  
    Hello!
    It must be tightened. 5-6 meters are hard to drive in one piece - shorter sections are used, joined as needed.
    www.ah.com.pl/informacje/rozwiazania_uziomow.pdf
    Regards.
  • #4 6196356
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    mr.Sławek wrote:
    For such a depth, it is rather not hammered, but it is drilled with a special device that may resemble an ordinary drill. Does it necessarily have to be a vertical earth electrode because it will be a bit hard to do with home methods and what will it be used for? to a depth of 1-2 m, which will be easier to do and the results with the right number of poles will not be too bad either.


    I don't have a special drill, I want to do it myself. The vertical earth electrode is much less digging in the ground. I can not do the levels, I have no conditions for this. The level is to be at home, there is a differential and I want to ground the PE conductor. In the forum, it was very often advised to make a vertical earth electrode by driving a rod, pipes to a great depth of 4-6m. A penetration at 1-2m may be too shallow a poor effect.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    lehoo1 wrote:
    Hello!
    It must be tightened. 5-6 meters are hard to drive in one piece - shorter sections are used, joined as needed.
    www.ah.com.pl/informacje/rozwiazania_uziomow.pdf
    Regards.


    How to connect such a 2 inch pipe (weld thread !!!!!)
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  • #5 6196784
    alfaam
    Level 19  
    Use ready-made earth electrodes of earth rods manufactured by, for example, AH. Sections 1.2-1.8 m are connected with a special lock, groove.
  • #6 6196801
    stomat
    Level 38  
    And why do you want to use such a giant pipe? With such a diameter, it is probably only the well who will punch it in for you :) In each warehouse you will buy rods specially designed for earth electrodes. With what to sink them? It depends on the ground. For example, a hammer such as for forging in walls.
  • #7 6196842
    jurekN
    Level 23  
    Order a pile driver because you will not do anything with a hammer, and seriously, two rods fi 16 sharpened 3m each at a distance of 4-5m from each other and connect with a hoop.
  • #8 6197457
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #9 6199580
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    stomat wrote:
    And why do you want to use such a giant pipe? With such a diameter, it is probably only the well who will punch it in for you :) In each warehouse you will buy rods specially designed for earth electrodes. With what to sink them? It depends on the ground. For example, a hammer such as for forging in walls.

    Hello. On the forum, as I read about earth electrodes, a pipe was very often proposed and the thicker the better, so I thought about the pipe.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    Snack wrote:
    I do earth electrodes with ready-made pins, which are additionally copper-plated. The pins are 120 cm each. I stick 3 to 8 of these pins, it depends on who and what kind of soil they have. Usually 3-4 is enough. Finally, the cone is tightened and connected with special sleeves. It goes like butter with a large Hitachi hammer. Once we have the grounding rod in, I tighten the hoop or whatever we want to tighten on the ZUK.

    Hello.
    Where do you buy these pins, (I stick 3 to 8,) but like one on top of the other or next to each other.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    alfaam wrote:
    Use ready-made earth electrodes of earth rods manufactured by, for example, AH. Sections 1.2-1.8 m are connected with a special lock, groove.

    Where can you buy such rods.
  • #10 6199674
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace
    You can buy such ground rods at any major electrical wholesaler. They can be copper or steel. They are twisted, or simply one "sticks" into the other - the ends are specially milled so that they fit tightly "one into the other". I also hammer with a hammer - I have a special adapter made in order not to "bulge" the end of the rod - which will serve as the "socket" of the next one. I managed to get 8 pieces the most ... :D Sometimes, for example, 8 pieces are stuck in one place, and sometimes 2 probes for 4 pieces - this is a better solution.
    Ask for "calamari"
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  • #11 6199988
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    Akrzy74 wrote:
    You can buy such ground rods at any major electrical wholesaler. They can be copper or steel. They are twisted, or simply one "sticks" into the other - the ends are specially milled so that they fit tightly "one into the other". I also hammer with a hammer - I have a special adapter made in order not to "bulge" the end of the rod - which will serve as the "socket" of the next one. I managed to get 8 pieces the most ... :D Sometimes, for example, 8 pieces are stuck in one place, and sometimes 2 probes for 4 pieces - this is a better solution.
    Ask for "calamari"


    Thank you for your help . Maybe I can handle it for sure, thanks to your statement it will be easier for me. Thank you again.
    I greet everyone.
  • #12 6200021
    sasza1949
    Level 15  
    Krzy2Krzy. wrote:
    Hello.
    Gentlemen, please advise. I would like to make a vertical earth electrode, for example, from a 5-6m long rod. or the pipe in which you are driving such long iron into the ground (ladder, hammer) may have a proven patent. If the pipe has a diameter of about 2 inches, then if it needs to be welded to the tip, it will be difficult to punch it without welding it to such a depth. Please help .
    Regards.

    Place 3 poles connected at the top with a rope or chain. Through the center, lead a rod ?14 or thicker, which will be an earth electrode. At a height of 1.5 m, wrap the rod around the rod with a chain and put the spinning rod around the eyelet. and hit with a hammer. I personally screwed in 7m rods.
    Vertical Earth Electrode: 5-6m Long Rod/Pipe Installation Guide (2-Inch Diameter, Welding Tips)
  • #13 6200162
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    sasza1949 wrote:
    Krzy2Krzy. wrote:
    Hello.
    Gentlemen, please advise. I would like to make a vertical earth electrode, for example, from a 5-6m long rod. or the pipe in which you are driving such long iron into the ground (ladder, hammer) may have a proven patent. If the pipe has a diameter of about 2 inches, then if it needs to be welded to the tip, it will be difficult to punch it without welding it to such a depth. Please help .
    Regards.

    Place 3 poles connected at the top with a rope or chain. Through the center, lead a rod ?14 or thicker, which will be an earth electrode. At a height of 1.5 m, wrap the rod around the rod with a chain and put the spinning rod around the eyelet. and hit with a hammer. I personally screwed in 7m rods.
    Vertical Earth Electrode: 5-6m Long Rod/Pipe Installation Guide (2-Inch Diameter, Welding Tips)


    THANKS.
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  • #14 17693726
    Baqo
    Level 16  
    Maybe it will be useful to someone.
    I wanted to sell another patent here, simple and quick, a 5-10m pin from a rod can easily be hammered in with a hammer. Half an hour to an hour's work.
    This is how I hammered vertically up to 10 meters into the clay, they refused to enter.
    You can stick a few next to each other, if there is room, shorter after 5-6m and connect them with a hoop.

    Place the scaffolding in the workplace, at the appropriate height, you will also need a welder, a large electric hammer, and an electric extension cord.
    A 5m rod is sharpened on one side, a nut must be welded on the other end, the hammerhead will rest on it in the hole, turn the hammer on and hold it vertically, on the rod, after hammering the rod, cut off the nut, weld the second 5m section of the rod to the driven in and we stick again.
    A hoop must be welded to the end, and the joints should be secured against corrosion.
  • #15 17694083
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    For this purpose, ready-made elements are purchased and nothing is sharpened or constructed. The material of the earth electrode must have specific chemical properties (corrosion protection) matched to the rest of the system components, and what you propose is ordinary crap.
  • #16 17694217
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the installation of a vertical earth electrode, specifically a 5-6m long rod or pipe with a 2-inch diameter. Users suggest various methods for installation, emphasizing the challenges of driving such a long rod into the ground. Recommendations include using shorter sections of rods that can be connected, employing specialized drilling equipment, or utilizing ready-made earth electrodes from manufacturers like AH. Some participants mention the use of hammers and adapters to facilitate the installation process, while others advise against using overly thick pipes. The importance of corrosion protection and proper grounding techniques is also highlighted, with suggestions for connecting multiple rods for effective grounding.
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