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Dilemma - Wire or Cable for Home Installation: Socket Circuits & Lighting Comparisons

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  • #1 6199714
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    Hello.
    I have to do the installation at home (socket circuits, lighting). Electricians, would it be better to do it with wires (wire or cable), what would be better.
    I know. Please give me a hint, what better, maybe the gentlemen will convince me.
    Greetings.
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  • #2 6199756
    adamo396
    Level 15  
    Hello. In general, the home installation is done with a wire Ydy 1.5 for lighting and 2.5 for sockets
  • #3 6199759
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics  
    The answer to this question is - WIRE.
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  • #4 6199827
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace  
    Hello
    Krzy2Krzy wrote
    Quote:
    I am to perform the installation at home (socket circuits, lighting)

    From this I conclude that you are an electrician as it looks ... :D
    Quote:
    Gentlemen, electricians, is it better to do it with wires (wire or cable), which will be better. I asked my fellow electricians, the opinions are very different and not
    I know

    Here I have some concerns ...:?
    Quote:
    maybe the gentlemen will convince me.

    What did you suggest to the investor?

    Col. Łukasz-O wrote
    Quote:
    The answer to this question is - WIRE

    I will probably not be original if I confirm ...
    Ps. And today I found out that I have to install a wire like "Wire in a string ..." :D I can't get it anywhere ...
    :D
  • #5 6199859
    piorun0
    Level 20  
    The plaster wire is easier to arrange and bend, I used to use wire, but recently a cord, the ends of which do not need to be soldered, are now easily accessible crimping terminals.
    I'm for the line
  • #6 6199910
    krzysiek2987
    Level 11  
    Just like my colleague adamo396, home installations are made of wires. Although there is nothing wrong with the cord, it is rather used outside the building. In my opinion, you have to fly with a wire, but this is the installer's choice.
    greet
  • #7 6199966
    padz
    Level 12  
    Of course YDYp. It is easier to arrange and probably cheaper. Apart from that, I have not seen an installation titled with a rope.
  • #8 6200018
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    Why are you all behind the wire or why is the line worse?

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    adamo396 wrote:
    Hello. In general, the home installation is done with a wire Ydy 1.5 for lighting and 2.5 for sockets

    WHY.
  • #9 6200040
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics  
    Krzy2Krzy. wrote:
    Why are you all behind the wire or why is the line worse?


    The rope is more expensive and intended for a different use than plastering.
  • #10 6200041
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    piorun0 wrote:
    The plaster wire is easier to arrange and bend, I used to use wire, but recently a cord, the ends of which do not need to be soldered, are now easily accessible crimping terminals.
    I'm for the line

    I would be prickling here, which is better.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Łukasz-O wrote:
    Krzy2Krzy. wrote:
    Why are you all behind the wire or why is the line worse?


    The rope is more expensive and intended for a different use than plastering.

    Why. Only price !!!!!.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Akrzy74 wrote:
    Hello
    Krzy2Krzy wrote
    Quote:
    I am to perform the installation at home (socket circuits, lighting)

    From this I conclude that you are an electrician as it looks ... :D
    Quote:
    Gentlemen, electricians, is it better to do it with wires (wire or cable), which will be better. I asked my fellow electricians, the opinions are very different and not
    I know

    Here I have some concerns ...:?
    Quote:
    maybe the gentlemen will convince me.

    What did you suggest to the investor?

    Col. Łukasz-O wrote
    Quote:
    The answer to this question is - WIRE

    I will probably not be original if I confirm ...
    Ps. And today I found out that I have to install a wire like "Wire in a string ..." :D I can't get it anywhere ...
    :D


    Personally, I am inclined to the cable (if easier and more convenient) to install later, e.g. a socket.
    But most of them are behind the wire, I still have a dilemma.
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  • #11 6200116
    piorun0
    Level 20  
    Yes, the line is a bit more expensive, but using the line you can give it one class lower in cross-section and the price is almost the same, and there is no possibility of breaking the line in the insulation at sockets, switches, etc.
  • #12 6200121
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    Łukasz-O wrote:
    Krzy2Krzy. wrote:
    Why are you all behind the wire or why is the line worse?


    The rope is more expensive and intended for a different use than plastering.

    It is about 20% more expensive.
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  • #13 6200145
    HeSz
    Electrician specialist  
    piorun0 wrote:
    Yes, the line is a bit more expensive, but by using the line you can give it one class lower in cross-section ...

    Where did you get this information from? As far as I know the standard, there is no such provision. But I may be wrong?
  • #14 6200149
    Tomek331
    Level 26  
    piorun0 wrote:
    Yes, the line is a bit more expensive, but using the line you can give it one class lower in cross-section and the price is almost the same, and there is no possibility of breaking the line in the insulation at sockets, switches, etc.


    If you don't rummage around at the sockets every day, nothing will break. Some installations are 40 years old and nothing breaks. Wire or cable - if he has money, he can buy it, although I do not know how much more expensive it is.
  • #15 6200197
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    I checked the wire and cable load capacity in the catalogs, so only the PRICE.
  • #16 6200292
    krzysiek2987
    Level 11  
    In a way, the line is indicated by the fact that it does not break like a wire, but one colleague wrote, if you do not rummage unnecessarily, nothing will break. Most of them use the wire, probably due to the price and availability. But it is just like I wrote, the installer's gesture and the wire and the cable have their advantages.
  • #17 6200318
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace  
    HeSz wrote-
    Quote:
    As far as I know the standard, there is no such provision. But I may be wrong?

    You're right.
    LgY cables are used for permanent installation in dry rooms in installations exposed to vibrations and in places where the installation conditions require multiple bending of cables at small radii, as well as for connecting movable elements inside machines, devices and apparatuses - that is what Kol wrote about. Luke-O.
    If you intend to run the installation in tubing, it will still pass. If, on the other hand, in plaster - then do not admit to the profession of an electrician.
    YDYp or YDYt cables for laying in plaster ...
    A colleague, we answer.
  • #18 6200429
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    I am in favor of a few posts above ... The wire, it is easier to arrange, the line was designed to change dimensions and direction of work ...
    The cable has disadvantages - the need to solder or earn the ends, in connection in a box a typical twisted pair is not feasible, quick couplers will also not work ...
  • #19 6200632
    unemake
    Level 16  
    In my opinion, the topic has already been exhausted at least three times, so why unnecessary polemics?
  • #20 6205203
    Krzy2Krzy.
    Level 14  
    kortyleski wrote:
    I am in favor of a few posts above ... The wire, it is easier to arrange, the line was designed to change dimensions and direction of work ...
    The cable has disadvantages - the need to solder or earn the ends, in connection in a box a typical twisted pair is not feasible, quick couplers will also not work ...


    Hello. Is the wire easier to arrange than the line? I would argue. Canned connections are not a problem today. The load capacity is the same, so why a larger cross-section?

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    Akrzy74 wrote:
    HeSz wrote-
    Quote:
    As far as I know the standard, there is no such provision. But I may be wrong?

    You're right.
    LgY cables are used for permanent installation in dry rooms in installations exposed to vibrations and in places where the installation conditions require multiple bending of cables at small radii, as well as for connecting movable elements inside machines, devices and apparatuses - that is what Kol wrote about. Luke-O.
    If you intend to run the installation in tubing, it will still pass. If, on the other hand, in plaster - then do not admit to the profession of an electrician.
    YDYp or YDYt cables for laying in plaster ...
    A colleague, we answer.


    Who is talking about bare plaster? By the way, which installation will be better done with wire or rope.
  • #21 6205509
    Tomek331
    Level 26  
    In the end, the wire and the rope are the same, so give a rope in the kitchen, wire in the rooms and a tangle in the bathroom. :D
  • #22 6205598
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics  
    Krzy2Krzy. wrote:

    Hello. Is the wire easier to lay than the line? I would argue.


    Come on, we can argue.

    Krzy2Krzy. wrote:

    Who is talking about bare plaster? By the way, which installation will be better done with wire or rope.


    Or maybe a colleague would finally tell us what type of installation is it, in pipes or in plaster?
    You want to do something right at all costs and insist on your own, and you resort to non-electrical solutions both in this and the second topic.
    Already a colleague Akrzy74 wrote you what the cable is for and what the wire is for, other colleagues also wrote what they think.

    Summary:
    Hermetic installations can be made with hydraulic welded PVC pipes and YDYp can be pulled inside - the question is only PO WHAT :?:
    Do you understand the digressions?
  • #23 6205657
    alfaam
    Level 19  
    Colleague Krzy tries to play electrician, gaining knowledge and experience virtually.
    The next question will be the dilemma of joining by twisting or clamping or clamping. Type S or screwed fuses
  • #24 6205742
    zubel
    Conditionally unlocked  
    Gentlemen
    If someone is very bored, let him do the installation with this cable and if it is done correctly, it will work
  • #25 6205996
    alfaam
    Level 19  
    zubel wrote:
    Gentlemen
    If someone is very bored, let him do the installation with this cable and if it is done correctly, it will work


    And this is perhaps the most appropriate summary of this topic
  • #26 6207456
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace  
    unemake wrote-
    Quote:
    In my opinion, the topic has already been exhausted at least three times, so why unnecessary polemics?


    In my opinion, too.
    Summary of the topic - I close.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the choice between using wire or cable for home electrical installations, specifically for socket circuits and lighting. Participants generally favor using wire, particularly YDY 1.5 for lighting and YDY 2.5 for sockets, citing ease of arrangement and cost-effectiveness. Some mention that cables, while more expensive, offer advantages such as reduced risk of breaking and easier installation in certain conditions. The debate includes considerations of installation methods (in plaster vs. tubing) and the practicality of connections. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards wire for standard installations, with cables being suitable for specific applications.
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