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Connecting Second Antenna to WiFi Card's Main Input for Improved Range?

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  • #1 6344251
    iie
    Level 15  
    Hello

    Today, when I was cleaning my laptop, I noticed the wi-fi card antenna and on it, two inputs:
    -aux
    -main

    the antenna was connected to the aux, my question, if I hook up one more antenna, this time to the main, will the range jump?
    I attach a photo:
    Connecting Second Antenna to WiFi Card's Main Input for Improved Range?
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  • #2 6349007
    skaktus
    Level 37  
    Main - to connect an internal antenna
    Aux - to connect the socket to an external antenna.

    If you have one antenna, connect it to Main, or you can buy 2 antennas and connect to Aux, but do not expect a great increase in quality.

    Currently I have a lapa with a gigabyte card on 1 antenna and it has a better range than the previous gigabyte on 2 antennas.

    It all depends on the card
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  • #3 6349116
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #4 6349259
    iie
    Level 15  
    i.e. on my card there are these two inputs as you can see them, but the antenna is connected only to the auxiliary one. My lapek is FSC amilo li 1718 and the card is atheros 5700eg, or the fact that the antenna is connected to the aux and not to the main may be related to the fact that the card sometimes turns on at system startup and sometimes not? [it has nothing to do with drivers or systems, tested on viście / xp / ubuntu] problem always the same
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  • #5 6349408
    skaktus
    Level 37  
    No main and aux have nothing to turn on and off.

    As for the sockets - in some laptops, aux is used as an input to an external antenna and is intended for this input,
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  • #6 6349669
    iie
    Level 15  
    that is, to sum up, plugging in an additional antenna will do nothing anyway, because the card will choose the stronger one anyway and it will work with it?
  • #7 6349746
    skaktus
    Level 37  
    I do not really believe that the card chooses a better antenna, but you can always try.

    As I wrote, a lot depends on the card and not the antennas. Good cards can even catch a net without an antenna.
  • #8 6349769
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #9 6349803
    iie
    Level 15  
    and referring to what I wrote above about turning on the wi fi card, does anyone have any thesis on this topic?

    Quote:
    card sometimes turns on at system startup and sometimes not? [it has nothing to do with drivers or systems, tested on viście / xp / ubuntu] problem always the same
  • #10 6349861
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #11 6349893
    skaktus
    Level 37  
    janko_wodnik wrote:
    How will you know which antenna has the stronger signal at the moment?
    The strength of the signal received / transmitted by the antenna depends on many factors, including the position of the laptop in space, but also the quality of the antennas.
    It is impossible to say "by eye" whether an additional antenna will always improve the quality of WiFi work, or will it be just an additional piece of metal collecting interference. But for something, ThinkPad's two antennas come pre-installed.


    Then why in some Asus, IBM or HP give 1 antenna?

    Also remember that the antennas come in different sizes. In my Asus, I tested the range and whether it was on the 2nd or the 1st antenna, it also lost the range in the same place. Toshiba and Hasee had the same problem.
  • #12 6350319
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #13 6350918
    iie
    Level 15  
    the network card is atheros 5007eg, I gave the name above, but unfortunately 7 was not inserted where it is needed =). I called google, I set up a post on a forum dedicated only to Fujitsu siemens laptops and I did not receive an answer, although another user had a similar problem.

    As for the log, what to generate? I think the hijack falls off =)
  • #14 6351312
    skaktus
    Level 37  
    janko_wodnik wrote:
    For economic reasons :)

    The second antenna can be used as an antenna for the BT module, which normally has a dedicated one. This way you have up to three antennas in one laptop that can be connected to the "Main" and "Aux" connectors.

    As a laptop has a plastic housing, the signal can easily pass through it, but if the housing is made of metal, one antenna can be blocked by the housing and two are used. After all, there are plastic plugs on the antennas.

    For the case under consideration, discussions about the reasons for the multitude of antennas are rather unnecessary, because the colleague has a different problem and you need to see what model of WiFi card he uses. After all, there is a problem, and therefore the topic was assumed.


    In my Asus I have 4 antennas ... 2 connected to WiFi, one to BT and 3 free to GSM.

    As for the wifi card and no detection. What does it look like when not detected? Can you see her in the manager? Does it just disappear?

    What socket is the antenna on?

    It is possible that removing it and reinserting it will solve the case.
  • #15 6351369
    iie
    Level 15  
    so the card disappears from the manager, it is a random matter, I did not observe any factors that may precede the card's failure to turn on. It was like that with the new laptop, regardless of the system, it is probably not a motherboard fault because it was replaced. As for the system and drivers, as I mentioned before, I checked on xp, viście, and ubuntu (8.04) and only fate decides whether the card will turn on or not. Often, after I close my laptop, it goes into standby mode, and I open it again, the card doesn't turn on anymore. Interestingly, even if it is not visible in the manager, the LED is on, which is responsible for showing whether the wi-fi card is turned on or not.

    edit:

    So I think that the patent with the removal and insertion is gone (replacing the motherboard settled this option)

    edit 2:

    the antenna is on aux

    edit 3:

    Today I needed 5 reboots for the card to surprise, it has not happened to me in a long time.
  • #16 6354909
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #17 6355143
    iie
    Level 15  
    I put a photo of the card at the top =), it is inside the laptop, I do not know if it is a PCI-e connector but it is definitely not USB. I forgot to write that on the previous motherboard the problem was the same. Can you tell the log of which program would satisfy you?

    edit:

    here's the eversta log
  • #18 6355345
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #19 6355472
    iie
    Level 15  
    so the everest log does not match?

    Unfortunately, I have nowhere to check this card, no other laptops available, do you suggest replacing this card?

    Do you think this one would be good?

    edit 2:



    edit 3

    Quote:

    You have two wired adapters, one of them is reporting itself as a PCI device, why is that?


    One wired card is hamachi, i.e. a virtual driver, the other is a realtek there, probably it is under pci

    Quote:

    How many mPCI-e slots do you have and is the second one possibly occupied?


    From what I noticed, I have one such slot, but I did not unscrew the laptop very well, only the flap under which is cpu / ram / wi fi
  • #20 6369508
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #21 6371242
    iie
    Level 15  
    hmm, thanks to the response, I will try to replace the card

    Moderated By mat_ed:

    I have removed links to the auction - regulations p. 10.11

  • #22 6424176
    iie
    Level 15  
    I replaced the card, everything works so far [knock on], thanks for help =)
  • #23 21396222
    slawinek
    Level 12  
    Let me ask you a question.
    When a wifi card also has bluetoot, is the aux connector there so that the bt has better range? I have changed the wifi card in my laptop to one with two antenna connectors and I only have one antenna in my laptop (the previous wifi card only had one antenna connection).
    \I have wifi ok but the bt from this card has such poor range that devices have to be placed on the laptop near the card mount for it to see them.
    How is it with this antenna and bt?

Topic summary

The discussion addresses whether connecting a second antenna to the "Main" input of a WiFi card, when the existing antenna is connected to the "Aux" input, improves wireless range. It is clarified that "Main" and "Aux" denote primary and auxiliary antenna connectors, not internal versus external antennas. Typically, if only one antenna is used, it should be connected to the "Main" port for optimal performance. Adding a second antenna may not significantly enhance range, as the WiFi card's capability and antenna quality largely determine signal strength. Some laptops use two antennas to overcome metal housing interference or to support Bluetooth modules sharing antennas. The original problem involved an Atheros AR5007EG mini PCI WiFi card in a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Li 1718 laptop, where the card intermittently failed to initialize, unrelated to antenna connections. Troubleshooting revealed the card was likely defective; replacing it resolved the issue. The card uses a mini PCI interface, not mini PCI Express. The LED indicator may remain lit even if the card is not detected by the system. The discussion also touches on antenna roles in combined WiFi and Bluetooth cards, where auxiliary connectors may serve Bluetooth antenna needs. Overall, antenna connection alone does not guarantee improved range; hardware condition and card design are critical factors.
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