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Ubuntu 8.04: Disable Integrated Sound Card & Use PCI Sound Card; Switch NTFS to EXT3 for Files?

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  • #1 6426004
    hacker
    Level 26  
    Hello !
    I have Ubuntu ver. 8.04 and I have this problem:
    I mean the device manager, or some program that will show
    computer devices.
    More precisely, I have 2 sound cards: integrated and
    on PCI.
    In Windows, you can easily turn one off, but how to do in Linux
    that they do not interfere with each other and do not interfere with each other :?:
    I would like the card from the PCI slot to be used.

    One more question.
    I currently have 2 WinXp and Ubuntu systems.
    I have Xp on the NTFS partition, Ubuntu on SWAP and EXT3, and the rest of the files
    (music, movies, installs etc.) also on NTFS. It is known that windows can see
    FAT and NTFS partitions, and Ubuntu those from windows, and EXT and SWAP. My question
    whether in the case of a complete transition to Linux, Xp deletion,
    it makes sense to change the partition (where I have music, movies, etc.) from NTFS to EXT3 :?:
    Whether it will affect access for linux, or the speed of the
    documents and miscellaneous files, should I leave NTFS partition?
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    #2 6426024
    Anonymous
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    #3 6426077
    Anonymous
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    #4 6426111
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    If, on the other hand, you can not turn off the integrated in bios because you need it in Windows, then in the alsa-conf console and configure ALSA so that the PCI card is the default.
  • #5 6429335
    hacker
    Level 26  
    No, I don't need it in Windows either, but I have a slightly cut bios and I don't know where to turn it off.
    And as for partitions, you can save files, delete files, etc., but I mean what is the difference when Linux sees them in the NTFS system, and EXT :?:
  • #6 6429345
    Kolobos
    IT specialist
    Enter the model of the motherboard.
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    #7 6429419
    Jarosx9
    Level 35  
    Device Manager is an artificial Windows creation and has no direct equivalent under Linux.
    If you want to display the list of devices connected to PCI / AGP / PCIE you have to run lspci command from the console (root indicated).

    If you do not want any of the sound cards to work, the easiest way is to block the loading of the support module (the equivalent of the Windows driver) during system startup (most distributions have such a file blacklist In the catalogue / etc and in some subdirectory - depends on distra where search and add the appropriate module)
    As for the selection of the module to be blocked, I recommend google as an information base.

    As for NTFS support, almost all modern distributions have full NTFS support. It seems to me that NTFS is a bit slower than, for example, EXT2 when reading / writing, although journaling support may also have an impact. As for EXT3 / EXT4 / REISER3 / 4, I did not take any measurements, but I am of the opinion that most likely NTFS will also be slower.
    As for the system change, if you are already changing it, I recommend EXT4 because it seems that since kernel 2.6.28 it is officially stable. For me (gentoo ~ amd64), compared to EXT3 (ordered mode), my system loads noticeably faster on EXT4 (default settings).
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    #8 6429495
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    It's not enough to keep an eye out for the difference between EXT and NTFS in speed alone. You would have to think about data security and many other aspects.

    As for the device manager, Jarosx9 rightly noticed that this is an artificial creation and you won't find it on Linux.
    Blacklisting the module is not even necessary. It is enough to properly configure alsa to use the card we are interested in, and disable the integrated one in the BIOS, looking for OnChip Audio, Onboard audio, AC 97 audio or similar and setting it to disable.
  • #9 6429523
    hacker
    Level 26  
    Or maybe on Linux they won't conflict with each other if they are both turned on :?:
    Then just configure the one that I want to use at the moment :?:
    The motherboard model I have now is MSI 7048, there is probably BIOS version 1.0.
    One more disadvantage of the file system is that when I install a new version of Windows in some time (one or two years), it will not see the files in EXT3 / 4. Unless these newer versions already work with these systems, I mean Viste or Win7.
  • #10 6429566
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Windows sees the EXT partition only with the help of installing drivers http://www.fs-driver.org/

    On Linux, there will be no problems with two active sound cards, not Windows. Use alsa-conf set up a default card and trouble should be.
  • #11 6429609
    hacker
    Level 26  
    I just read about these systems and read that you cannot convert from ntfs to ext3 without losing data: /
    Can Partition magic do this without copying files to other partitions so as not to lose them :?:
    And as for cards, how is it with multi-channel systems, eg 5.1 :?:
    There are programs so that you can set yourself whether you want regular stereo or 6-channel sound and to operate the other sockets :?:
    I have 8-channel cards integrated for PCI and sometimes I would like to use it ;)
    In Windows, to such a config. there is a program from the rudder board.
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  • #12 6429636
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    It is impossible to convert NTFS to EXT3 without loss. A completely different file system architecture makes this impossible.

    5.1 works on Linux without problems. With analog and digital configuration. In analogy, you have to arrange the outputs in the system mixer, eg KMix, by configuring the alsa beforehand. For digital, e.g. optical, which I use, the matter is a bit easier.
  • #13 6429653
    hacker
    Level 26  
    Qrcze I was converting partitions from FAT32 to NTFS under Windows and there was no problem, all files were left as old as they were.
    I thought it would be the same on EXT3, but I can see that it is impossible :(
  • #14 6429679
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    FAT and NTFS can be converted from each other, but EXT3 is completely different from them. Why do you want to persistently convert?
    I am using NTFS partitions via ntfs-3g and have nothing to complain about. I have shared partitions for Windows and Linux and I have access to all files on both systems and that's fine.
  • #15 6429700
    hacker
    Level 26  
    I think that's how I will leave these files on NTFS.
    And one more question about Linux. I remember that there was an application that dealt with programs that started on the Autostart and it was possible to add new ones.
    I don't remember where it was or what it was called.
  • #16 6429731
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    You don't need an app for that.
    KDE remembers the session state when logging out and will automatically restart whatever it was when it was restarted.
    The next method is in the menu you will find the equivalent of autostart, i.e. in KDE or GNOME a tool that allows you to add programs to be launched with X startup.
    You can use Cron and use it to make an autostart.
    A simple script can be made.
    Append the given program to kdm or gdm.
    Type in google autostart on linux methods is plenty ;) .
  • #17 6429755
    hacker
    Level 26  
    There was just something on the menu but I can't find it.
    Unless it is not checked in options to be displayed in the menu panel.
  • #18 6429775
    Jarosx9
    Level 35  
    The most basic booting at boot depends on the type of init scripts, and this in turn depends on the distribution.
    For example, in debian derivatives, links to numbers in directories /etc/rc?.d are responsible - where? is the run level.
    Usually there is also something in / etc like rc.local where you can add your stuff to run.
    Although, for example, in gentoo, these are the links in / etc / runlevels / default / ???.
    Each distribution has its own solutions, so you need to familiarize yourself with the startup scripts about what kaman.
    Details ask / find on the website / forum of your distribution.
    As for running something in X, in fact KDE / GNOME etc have the appropriate tools / directories for this.
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    Anonymous
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  • #20 6432046
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Because you do not have write permission on the FAT partition, you only have read permission.
    As root, edit your fstab and change the FAT partition entries to
    vfat defaults,user,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
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    Anonymous
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  • #22 6435019
    Jarosx9
    Level 35  
    Use some editor for editing. Maybe nano or vim.
    Or from the mc level (midnight commander).

    These packages come in many distributions.
  • #23 6435089
    Mery84
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    These are the basics of Linux.
    Logged in as root in the console:
    nano /etc/fstab


    Depending on what Gnome or KDE shell you have, you will enter gedit or kate instead of nano.
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    Anonymous
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  • #25 6441044
    hacker
    Level 26  
    And I have another question: NTFS and EXT3 partitions.
    If I have ntfs files on 1 disk and 2 ext3 files then I can easily transfer files from one to another or would I need to convert together with the files :?:
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    #26 6441057
    Anonymous
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around configuring sound cards and file systems in Ubuntu 8.04. Users seek to disable the integrated sound card to prioritize a PCI sound card, with suggestions to either disable it in the BIOS or configure ALSA to set the PCI card as the default. The conversation also addresses the transition from NTFS to EXT3 for file storage, highlighting that while NTFS is supported in Linux, EXT3 offers better performance and security. Users confirm that files can be copied between NTFS and EXT3 without conversion, and that multi-channel sound configurations are supported in Linux. Concerns about data loss during partition conversion from NTFS to EXT3 are raised, with clarifications that such conversions are not possible without data loss.
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