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Using Fuel/Diesel Oil in Traditional Kerosene Stoves (Zibro) vs Expensive Zibro Kerosene

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  • #1 15122415
    BoyLer
    Level 11  
    Hello. Is it possible to burn fuel/diesel oil in such traditional kerosene stoves (e.g. some Zibro)? Original Zibro kerosene is horrendously expensive.

    ps.
    the room that will be heated in this way is a "roasting room", i.e. a very strongly ventilated room.
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  • #2 15122910
    Jacek79
    Level 37  
    There should not be any problems.
    And plain oil
  • #3 15124394
    BoyLer
    Level 11  
    I have not found ordinary kerosene at a reasonable price.
    On some blog, someone warned against using heating oil or diesel in such stoves, but I don't know if it wasn't just scaring, because the author has a company dealing with such stoves, air conditioners, etc.
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  • #4 15131832
    Jacek79
    Level 37  
    It's best to look for a large package, mauser
  • #5 16915247
    JackRabbit
    Level 10  
    BoyLer wrote:
    Hello. Is it possible to burn fuel/diesel oil in such traditional kerosene stoves (e.g. some Zibro)? Original Zibro kerosene is horrendously expensive.


    I have the same doubts. I bought an original Zibro Laser FF95 stove at an auction for a garage, which I would like to heat the garage. Most in the auction or in various stores it was written that it was a fuel oil heater, as I got the package in the original factory box and in the manual it is written that only "zibro" kerosene is used. The question is, can ON be used for this stove without any problems?
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  • #6 16916736
    slider2002
    Level 15  
    As it is, good old soda will be better than HE. There will be less smoke and less carbon deposits.
  • #7 16934976
    JackRabbit
    Level 10  
    So I can pour fuel oil without fear against the will of the zibro instructions ... right?
  • #8 17169905
    Jacek79
    Level 37  
    no, this stove runs on kerosene
    you would have to buy an oil stove, e.g. webasto or ebersprecher
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  • #9 17170035
    tomek_602
    Level 22  
    Kerosene for such a furnace is "clean" - it does not clog the burner, does not give carbon deposits, exhaust gases contain less undesirable substances.
    If you have an injected or catalytic kerosene stove, it may not survive running on oil.
    If with a "wick", then the evaporation of kerosene and oil is different.

    Many people say that instead of expensive branded kerosene from the manufacturer of a particular stove, kerosene for kerosene lamps can be used for a wick stove.
  • #11 17555583
    Mailander84
    Level 1  
    The FF95 furnace is a normal Webasto for heating oil or crude oil. A closed combustion chamber with a chimney, a Japanese product, and they heat with a more calorific mixture of crude oil and kerosene. Go ahead and pour ON or firewood. Kerosene stoves without exhaust will also run on oil and even light kerosene, you'll only suffocate! Pure kerosene leaves only moisture, it stinks when ignited and that's it. I cured myself of it, I also bought the FF95 and recommend it.
  • #12 17873856
    Majsterek00
    Level 2  
    I will say this.

    My friend studied chemistry so I'll be very short and simple.

    Diesel oil is exactly the same as heating oil. (Heating oil is dyed red because there is no road tax)

    Kerosene is very often used in Alaska instead of diesel so that the fuel does not freeze.

    You can safely use diesel fuel oil instead of kerosene.

    If you want more. Jet A-1 fuel can be used instead of diesel for only PLN 2,500 per m^3

    Hello, end of topic
  • #13 17874361
    JackRabbit
    Level 10  
    I confirm, I have had the FF95 for a year and a half and I have no problem with them, I pour them with diesel and smoke them without any problems, I agree with Mr. At the beginning I had problems with starting because the stove requires a gravity tank, of course it has a built-in fuel pump that supports the fuel from the outside. A 30 liter tank with a tap was enough for me, which is enough for me for 2 months. The only downside is that the stove must be placed against the wall in order to put the exhaust pipe outside. You have to drill a hole in the wall. The package includes an exhaust, it has adjustments according to the thickness of the wall. It's a great thing, it heats without any smell, practically no unpleasant odors. After turning off, the fan continues to run, throwing an unpleasant smell outside. The stove has a built-in fan which spreads heat around the room. Controls by computer. It works very well, without interruption, it has temperature sensors, if after exceeding the set ambient temperature, the stove goes to sleep for a while and when the temperature drops below 2 * it starts again. I have a garage with dimensions of 50 m2, it warmed up to 20 degrees in 15 minutes. It smokes very little. It is protected against children, when it falls on the floor, it immediately goes out, everything closes the injection blockages, protects against self-ignition. A great thing thought out by the Japanese because in Japan they have frequent earthquakes, various earthquakes, so an invention like this Zibro FF95 meets their requirements. And the TOYOTOMI company (the same brand as Zibro) are specialists in such matters. They write on the forum that you can confidently pour oil and the equipment has been working for a long time. And I also have a separate set with a remote control with control by day, automatic activation by time, e.g. work. I recommend. Regards.
  • #14 20158716
    Neshi777
    Level 2  
    I will tell you that there are cool heating stoves from Germany, which are thrown away and you can use any oil in them, including vegetable or diesel oil, as well as probably kerosene or gasoline, etc. It is worth checking the maximum combustion temperature of a given material intended for such a heating stove and you can use no problems with any fuel that has a smaller ... and those with a larger one, as long as they exist, at your own risk (although it is known that German old stoves must be reliable and safe :) ) I would like to add that such a stove not only heats the room but also allows you to cook on it like on a stove, and you take the exhaust gases out through the pipe ... they are myki if it will smoke to burn it better and some pseudo filters. However, it should be noted that burning oils, as well as petroleum, is simply dirty in the sense of toxicity, just like empyemas. Except that we don't have filters. Here's a link to the video I'm talking about:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ZK-rECqKE

    It should be added that somewhere I also saw a heat current / voltage generator for charging, for example, a phone. It may come in handy when it turns off everything and turns it off in 2022 to push through changes that would not normally pass :)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using fuel or diesel oil in traditional kerosene stoves, specifically Zibro models, as a cost-effective alternative to expensive Zibro kerosene. Participants express mixed opinions, with some asserting that diesel can be used without issues, while others caution against it due to potential damage to the stove and increased emissions. The Zibro Laser FF95 model is mentioned, with users noting that it is designed for kerosene but can operate on diesel or heating oil. Concerns about carbon deposits and combustion efficiency are raised, emphasizing that kerosene is cleaner and less likely to clog burners. Some users suggest using alternative kerosene types, such as those for lamps, as a cheaper option. Overall, while some users report successful use of diesel in their stoves, others recommend adhering to manufacturer guidelines to avoid complications.
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