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Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer?

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  • #1 7384048
    groovee
    Level 20  
    Hello,

    Have any of you tried to extend the time between sprays on this device?
    The longest period for me is 36 minutes.

    I have a small and rarely visited bathroom where pissing every 36 minutes is way too often.

    When I disassemble the device, I will throw a photo of it from inside.
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  • #2 7444792
    kosmatek
    Level 23  
    I am joining the topic with the fact that I would like to know how to skip the time trial so that the air freshener works every time it sees movement.


    Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer?
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  • #3 7451221
    groovee
    Level 20  
    My electronics are different, because there is no motion sensor. There is a button for that.

    But in fact, disconnecting the time trial would also satisfy me to some extent :)

    There are only resistors from the switch to the prock - the same. So the time is probably sewn into the program.

    Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer?
  • #4 7456051
    jony15
    Level 25  
    I understand that the switch changes the time between "leaps", it can replace the resistors next to the switch (the ones that follow the path to the switch) but the trial and error method remains. PS you can ask for more detailed photos of the switch area.
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  • #5 7469782
    groovee
    Level 20  
    The problem is that all resistors are of the same value. These are probably separate Prock legs.

    Tomorrow I will try to upload photos of better quality.

    I am thinking of the idea of disconnecting all electronics and converting it into a "battery powered trickle" ...

    Only such a design makes no sense - it is better not to waste batteries and buy an ordinary spray freshener :)
  • #6 8062488
    yatkha
    Level 11  
    I join the topic.
    I am interested in either disconnecting the timer or extending the time 2x-3x.
  • #7 9176936
    Acharum
    Level 2  
    I am joining the group of people looking for a solution to the timer problem. Personally, I am interested in skipping the time trial completely. Thank you in advance for help if someone gives a solution on how to avoid it.
  • #8 9177664
    daniel93
    Level 29  
    And isn't it better to connect to the "pissing" system and make a piece of electronics on ATMega8 yourself?
  • #9 9180219
    bazz93
    Level 23  
    write a letter to the manufacturer ;)
  • #10 9339858
    groovee
    Level 20  
    Hello, I "solved" my problem using the "hama" method - I fired the electronics and connected the battery, switch and motor - in the "pressing" direction. It comes back the same way as I release the button.

    If the batteries are good, it works without a problem, when they get weaker, the motor has no power, so the solution is mediocre, but it is :)


    @ bazz93 - but for the manufacturer, the faster you use it, the better ...
  • #11 9562216
    AdamDol
    Level 10  
    daniel93 wrote:
    And wouldn't it be better to connect to the "pissing" system and make a piece of electronics on ATMega8 yourself?


    Hello. Inspired by the quoted thought, I decided to solve this problem through exercises and self-education. Let me say at the outset that I am not an electronics engineer and therefore I am asking you to spare any critical comments about my professionalism.
    I have an AirWick FreshMatic without a motion sensor. I allow myself to paste photos of my friend groovee (I have exactly the same model).
    Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer?
    So...
    Assumptions:
    1.hand piss button;
    2. motion / lighting sensor (new functionality), without blocking (1);
    3. time trial;

    So I started and after spending some time on the internet I wrote my first ATmega8 program. A test board for the above-mentioned processors was created on the way, etc. It all took a while. However...
    Everything works as planned. Well, maybe almost ... well, my (un) electronic knowledge does not allow me to solve the motor control.
    I tried with different npn transistors. Emitter to ground, collector to motor, base through 10k resistor to ATmega8 port (PB0). But unfortunately the engine does not have the strength to push the dispenser to spray. The power supply is 5V - workshop conditions, but ultimately it will be 3V. The motor connected directly to these 3V / 5V works without any problems. I tried different values of the resistor on the base but it did not work.
    I think the devil is in choosing the right transistor. I read on the forum about motor control with uP, but they are about to build some cosmically complicated circuits there, and I know that it can be done easily - there is only one transistor on the original board, marked Q1.
    In addition, with the system in which I connected this motor, an unforeseen complication occurs, consisting in the fact that the whole system seems to be in a loop - a trick every now and then. At the same time, there is no regularity as to when this is done - the effect is once in, once out is gone. I think the reason for this may be the voltage drop in the system after turning on the engine.
    That's it for the moment. I am waiting for suggestions and possible hints. Only in a very short way, please.
    Of course, I will post the diagrams and the program code in my free time.
  • #12 9989740
    gizmog
    Level 13  
    Hello,
    Has anyone already dealt with this problem and would like to share their knowledge?
    I am also concerned with extending the timer, even x4.
    I have a very small bathroom so pissing every half hour is a very bad idea

    greetings
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  • #13 10625857
    perkun0
    Level 1  
    Hello!
    I dumped the electronics and put in a different one, from the LED lamp from Biedronka. Lamella with 6 LEDs and a PIR sensor on the BISS0001 chip. It also works on 3 sticks, you only need to desolder the sensor and make it on a cable. I placed the plate behind the can with the smell. I set the motor operation time to 2 seconds. and the time of passivity for 3 minutes. and ready. It only works when someone enters the bathroom :) This circuit is described in more detail somewhere on the Electrode.
  • #14 10862065
    Acharum
    Level 2  
    Hello,

    The method is very simple, unfortunately it requires financial expenses if someone does not have an old air freshener without a timer. Just swap the tiles in these air fresheners and throw the timer out of the AIR WICK air freshener to make both fresheners work. I used a SC JOHNSON & SON, INC air freshener for this replacement. MODEL: 7Q1841 with motion sensor and timer that activates the system 30 minutes after a piss. It looks like this that after each spray, the system waits for half an hour and during this time it does not affect the detected movement, which gives savings such that the AIR WICK container which, when set for the longest time, i.e. 30 minutes, worked for me about a month while standing in the toilet now lasts for 7-8 months with two residents at home. On the AIR WICK PCB, you should skip the timer by inserting a micro button in its place. The micro switch should be inserted into the hole after the motion sensor in the SC JOHNSON & SON, INC. Housing. MODEL: 7Q1841 and we will have a freshener that will work only after pressing the button, which in the case of such a small applicator in this model is also an advantage. However, in the AIR WICK Frash Matic air freshener, a system from SC JOHNSON & SON, INC. Should be attached to the motor. MODEL: 7Q1841, replace the micro switch with a longer one and put it in the place after the diode, and put the motion sensor and the diode in and fix it in the place after the motion sensor. In this way, we get the AIR WICK FRASH MATIC air freshener with a motion sensor and a button for dispensing the contents of the container at the desired moment. I used hot glue from a gun for fixing, but everyone can attach it in their own way.

    Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer?



    Regards [/ img]

    At the request of a colleague Lorkovsky, I am adding photos of the board connection from the freshener SC JOHNSON & SON, INC. MODEL: 7Q1841 in AIR WICK freshener
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  • #15 11882001
    albertiniw
    Level 16  
    Hello
    Colleagues, I will refresh the old topic, but maybe there is something about the air freshener or someone managed to extend the time? maybe someone has a diagram of this timing system made? diagram welcome
  • #16 11895944
    Acharum
    Level 2  
    Hello,
    Dear colleague Albertine, in the description given by me above, everything works without objections. The cost of such a small air freshener, the model of which I gave, is probably about PLN 16, and the savings are really big because after processing Airwick, it works after detecting movement, so only when it is needed.
    Regards :D
  • #17 15124566
    futek2
    Level 19  
    Hello colleagues interested in the subject.
    After a couple of hours of scouting the AIR VICK's fault-time switch, I found the states to be the next number in the binary code.
    In my case of the AIR VICK version, the feet of the switch 1, 2, 3 are used, I marked them on the attached photo.
    This switch positions are linked before processing:
    1 - completely exclusive
    2 - first time - every 36 minutes - controlled by feet 1 and 2
    3 - second time - every 18 minutes - controlled by a foot 3
    4 - third time - every 9 minutes - controlled by feet 1, 2, 3

    After the analysis, you can see that it does not control itself, foot 1 and 2 as the longest times between runs.

    To obtain the longest time between failures, it uses foot 1 for position 1 of the switch, resigning from turning it off completely, making an appropriate bridge on the circuit board.
    I tested the system and so far everything works fine.
    I think nothing will change, but by reading earlier descriptions there are different versions of the board.
    A photo of how it came out in my version of AIR VICK is attached.
    The conversion was very simple, soldering a small bridge on the switch - I marked this connection - point 4 of 1.

    I am asking for any comments on how another colleague came out.

    FUTEK2
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  • #18 15350617
    963852
    Level 12  
    Hello..
    I have just purchased a version without a motion sensor (3 time settings plus off)
    What struck me ... is the noise that this device generates.
    It will not be possible to sleep at the same time ...

    I would like to ask for some tips on how to turn it off automatically, say from 22.00 to 6.00; D
    I would like to extend these times too, 36 minutes is too often - the smell is very intense.

    Here is what I bought ;)
    Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer?
  • #19 15494728
    witek1
    Level 14  
    :arrow: 963852
    I built in this machine a dusk sensor on two NPN transistors. the sensor is a photodiode with a lens from an old computer mouse. The circuit is plugged in so that it blocks the signal that controls the base of the executive transistor. The photodiode is placed in the atomizer window.
  • #20 16064895
    lorkovsky
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    I tried to share the topic but it did not work out. I am not an electronics engineer and I do not know any electronics. I read forums and descriptions of how to delay the timer, for example, by an hour and now it has a maximum of every 36 minutes. I failed because I have a different PCB than in the example above or I am too blunt to do it. I am asking you, gentlemen, for help in this topic, I am attaching photos of my layouts, please, suggestions in the topic. I would like to delay the machine by an hour or 2 at the same time for the motion sensor to work. Or another option, which is also satisfactory for me, is to turn off the automatic schedule timer at all (it does not have to work) so that only the motion sensor works. Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer? Air wick fresh-matic air freshener - can you extend the timer?
  • #21 16064958
    futek2
    Level 19  
    Hello, interested in the topic.
    Due to the fact that AIR WICK has different boards, in order to extend the time, he proposes to build a simple circuit on one integrated circuit 74HC109.
    How would it work? See the link below for the simulation.

    http://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html...64+75+5+43%0A156+224+64+240+64+2+0%0A156+224+ 256 + 256 + 256 + 2 + 0% 0AR + 224 + 320 + 208 + 320 + 0 + 0 + 40 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0.5% 0Aw + 320 + 64 + 352 + 64 + 0% 0Ax + 19 + 68 + 171 + 71 + 0 + 12 + input% C5% 9Bcie + ze + chip + AIRVICK% 0At + 480 + 288 + 512 + 288 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 100% 0Ar + 480 + 288 + 432 + 288 + 0 + 2000% 0Aw + 432 + 288 + 432 + 256 + 0% 0Ag + 512 + 304 + 512 + 336 + 0% 0A162 + 512 + 272 + 512 + 208 + 1 + 2.1024259 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0.01% 0AR + 512 + 208 + 512 + 176 + 0 + 0 + 40 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0.5% 0Ax + 534 + 225 + 608 + 228 + 0 + 12 + motor + voltage% C4% 99du% 0Ax + 399 + 142 + 527 + 145 + 0 + 12 + ta + cz% C4% 99% C5% 9B% C4% 87 + as + w + original% 0Aw + 320 + 256 + 432 + 256 + 0% 0AI + 160 + 96 + 224 + 96 + 0 + 0.5 + 5% 0AI + 400 + 288 + 368 + 288 + 0 + 0.5 + 5% 0Aw + 400 + 288 + 416 + 288 + 0% 0Aw + 416 + 288 + 416 + 368 + 0% 0Aw + 320 + 288 + 368 + 288 + 0% 0AI + 176 + 288 + 224 + 288 + 0 + 0.5 + 5% 0AR + 160 + 96 + 64 + 96 + 1 + 2 + 70 + 2.5 + 2.5 + 0 + 0.25% 0Aw + 352 + 192 + 352 + 64 + 0% 0Aw + 352 + 192 + 224 + 192 + 0% 0Aw + 224 + 192 + 224 + 256 + 0% 0AR + 224 + 64 + 192 + 64 + 0 + 0 + 40 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0.5% 0Aw + 160 + 288 + 176 + 288 + 0% 0Aw + 160 + 288 + 160 + 96 + 0% 0AR + 224 + 128 + 192 + 128 + 0 + 0 + 40 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0.5% 0AI + 400 + 96 + 368 + 96 + 0 + 0.5 + 5% 0Aw + 320 + 96 + 368 + 96 + 0% 0AR + 400 + 96 + 432 + 96 + 0+ 0 + 40 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0.5% 0Aw + 416 + 368 + 160 + 368 + 0% 0Aw + 160 + 288 + 160 + 368 + 0% 0Ax + 104 + 478 + 457 + 481 + 0 + 24 + Development + Futek2 + 16/11/2016% 0Ax + 351 + 31 + 1240 + 34 + 0 + 24 + Uk% C5% 82ad + up to + elongation + time + x + 2 + between + spills ++ to + AIR + WICK + on + 74HC109% 0Ao + 20 + 64 + 0 + 2086 + 8.183476519740355 + 4.8828125000000005e-155 + 0 + -1 + 0% 0Ao + 7 + 64 + 0 + 2086 + 5 + 0.0015625 + 0 + -1 + 0% 0A

    Diagram included.
    It is enough to install the circuit after cutting the output path from the integrated circuit on the board or to desolder with one end of the resistor and install the circuit.
    They send the signal from the IC in AIR WICK to the CLK input and the Q output to the resistor
    The circuit increases all times by 2 times and requires no additional components, only the 74HC109 integrated circuit.
    The visible INVERTER gates are integrated on the given inputs.
    Foot 8 weight, foot 16 + 3V.


    futek2
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  • #22 17895478
    TTomaszewicz
    Level 10  
    Hello, interested in the topic.
    I made a simple redesign of the air freshener with two goals:
    1. The air freshener only sprays the fragrance when someone is in the bathroom
    2. I don't need to replace the battery.

    I connected a 230V / 5V power supply to the battery terminals (e.g. from the phone)
    I hid the power supply in the suspended ceiling and connected it to the bathroom lighting circuit.

    As a result, a few seconds after entering the bathroom (and more precisely, turning on the light), Airwick emits the first dose. A longer stay causes the emission of subsequent portions in accordance with the timer settings and triggering the motion sensor.

    It has been working perfectly and maintenance-free for a year.
    Maybe someone will take advantage of the idea.

    Regards
  • #23 18531354
    sila11
    Level 11  
    I'll refresh the topic. I used the YYC-7 timer. Its advantage is the power supply from 3v, so you can use the battery power in the air freshener. Works with any air freshener. In older versions of Airwick, you can hide the timer inside after minor modifications. In new ones, it must be left outside. But you can't see much of it from the back. The break time can be extended up to 999m. It is important that the power output is connected to the freshener timer. I set the power supply time to one minute and the freshener will turn on once during this time. And so every time. You can also use an external power supply, e.g. a phone charger, but here in some air fresheners you need to reduce the voltage to 3v
  • #24 20153636
    elek3
    Level 1  
    Hi,

    FUTEK2, how long was the interval between sprays after connecting points 1 and 4?

    Thanks
    Jan

    futek2 wrote:
    Hello colleagues interested in the subject.
    ….
    To obtain the longest time between failures, it uses foot 1 for position 1 of the switch, resigning from turning it off completely, making an appropriate bridge on the circuit board.
    ….
    FUTEK2
  • #25 20155917
    futek2
    Level 19  
    Hello
    The circuit is a counter to 3 and it can be up to 4. The circuit works in such a way that the width of the impulse controlling the base of the transistor is maintained. It does not matter what the time between the pulses is because the system counts how many pulses is to be counted if the type of the integrated circuit is selected, then two JK transducers, the max can be a counter up to 4. But you can use a counter up to 10 or up to 16 and connect it accordingly to choose how many I want to count pulses and when I send an impulse to the base of the transistor controlling the motor dosing the fragrance factor, then the counting occurs from the beginning.
    The system must be connected by cutting the connection to the base of the tancet. Logic on 2 diodes should be added to block longer pulses so that the motor is not under voltage for too long, this is to be determined by the width of the output pulse from the original system.

    This is probably a clear topic.
    Futek2

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around modifying the Air Wick Freshmatic air freshener to extend the time between sprays, which is set at a default of 36 minutes. Users express interest in either increasing this interval or bypassing the timer entirely. Various solutions are proposed, including modifying the internal circuitry, replacing components with those from other devices, and using external timers. Some users have successfully implemented their own electronic designs, such as integrating motion sensors or using microcontrollers like the ATMega8. Others suggest swapping parts with different air fresheners to achieve desired functionality. The conversation highlights the challenges faced due to different circuit board designs across models and the need for technical knowledge in electronics for effective modifications.
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