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Extending Signal Duration for Zamel ROB-01 with Wiśniowski ST-01 Gate Controller

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  • #1 18263972
    Umiar
    Level 11  
    Good morning,
    i have such a problem:
    I bought a Zamel ROB-01 radio receiver to control the gate (wiśniowski st-01). But I haven't read that it only short-circuits the contacts for 0.5 sec, when my gate controller needs more than 1 sec. Apparently it is not possible to extend this time in ROB-01 itself - I don't know about that, such information I got from the manufacturer. I think, however, that it would be possible to use another switch of this type, which would be "triggered" by a signal from ROB-01 and which would short-circuit the contacts for a longer time, so that the gate would respond. However, I don't know where to look for something like that, I don't even know what to call it.
    Please help. Unless there is a simpler solution, I would also appreciate it.
    kind regards
    Grzegorz
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  • #2 18263978
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    Isn't it simpler to return it and get another radio, e.g. Elmes?
    By the way, somehow I don't see any information about the timing of the output in the specification - it's possible you've wired it wrong.
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  • #3 18263982
    Umiar
    Level 11  
    it would confuse me a bit, i already have a key to control theamele, i already have one rob-01 in the garage....
    now i would have to buy two new receivers and a transmitter.
  • #4 18264068
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    sosarek wrote:
    By the way, I somehow don't see the output runtime information in the specification - it's possible you've wired it wrong.
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  • #5 18264081
    elkard
    Level 36  
    Umiar wrote:
    I think, however, that it would be possible to use another switch of this type, which would be "triggered" by a signal from ROB-01 and which would short-circuit the contacts for a longer time and thus the gate would respond.

    See under "time relay - delayed shutdown".
  • #6 18264167
    nikusert
    Level 41  
    Hello .
    You can use an additional time relay, for example PCU-510, and connect it with the controller accordingly, or you can use a small relay, to which you connect (to its coil, in parallel) an electrolytic capacitor of significant capacity (1000-2000µF, or more), which, after the loss of power supply from the controller, will extend the time of holding this additional relay.
  • #8 18264180
    nikusert
    Level 41  
    That's right, but you can play around with this additional relay and capacitor, but for a different purpose and it has worked.
  • #9 18264212
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    Umiar wrote:
    But I don't know where to look for something like that, I don't even know what to call it.
    IMPULS company in Warsaw.
    An electrical door opener time extender with relay.
    Small board powered by 12-24V DC.
    Small price.
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  • #10 18264400
    Umiar
    Level 11  
    CYRUS2 wrote:
    Umiar wrote:
    But I don't know where to look for something like that, I don't even know what to call it.
    IMPULS company in Warsaw.
    Electric door opener time extender with relay.
    Small board powered by 12-24V DC.
    Small price.
    .

    oh that's right, I think that's what I'm looking for. But I don't see it in their range, or I don't know how to look for it....

    As for the doubt about the 0.5sec operation, it's not on their website but on the cardboard box there is this information - confirmed with the manufacturer.

    PS. I found something like this
    https://tinyurl.com/yxz6yoem
    but I don't know how to connect it to my Rob for the hell of it.
  • #12 18264429
    Umiar
    Level 11  
    sosarek wrote:
    On wires probably power supply and pulse input and screw terminals probably C NO NC.
    .

    I appreciate the knowledge of my colleague, so please do so in my own way ;-) .
    Where do I plug in the ROB signal and where do I have the "extended" signal output to the gate?
  • #13 18264442
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    What didn't you understand in the previous sentence? I don't think it's any simpler, after all, the seller will probably also provide connection instructions.
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  • #14 18264457
    Umiar
    Level 11  
    sosarek wrote:
    What did you not understand in the previous sentence? It probably can't be any simpler, by the way, the seller will probably also provide connection instructions.


    I apologise for my lack of knowledge, but I didn't understand how I was supposed to connect the gate to this device, i.e. which socket goes to the gate controller. I asked for a manual, the seller does not provide one in the kit.
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    #15 18264484
    sosarek

    Level 43  
    You connect the white wire to the Zamel outputs, the power supply is known and you have to find C and NO on the terminals using e.g. a meter.
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  • #16 18264514
    Umiar
    Level 11  
    sosarek wrote:
    The white wire is connected to the Zamel outputs, the power supply is known and on the terminals you have to find C and NO using e.g. a meter.
    .

    thank you. So is there a chance it will work? Keep looking or order?
  • #18 18264587
    Umiar
    Level 11  
    sosarek wrote:
    If it can be driven by such a short pulse then it should work.


    I will ask and let you know.
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    #19 18264835
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    CYRUS2 wrote:
    Firm IMPULS in Warsaw.
    Electric door opener time extender with relay.
    Umiar wrote:
    oh that's what I think I'm looking for. But I don't see it in their offer, or I don't know how to look for it...
    They probably don't have it on the website.
    (I couldn't find it either.)
    They don't have all the little things on the website.

    But they 100% have and sell it.
    Call them and they'll send it to you.

    I use this sometimes. Size 54mm x 27mm

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the Zamel ROB-01 radio receiver, which is used to control a Wiśniowski ST-01 gate controller. The main issue is that the ROB-01 only provides a short circuit for 0.5 seconds, while the gate controller requires a longer signal duration. Users suggest alternatives such as returning the Zamel receiver for a different model, like Elmes, or using an additional time relay (e.g., PCU-510) to extend the signal duration. Other solutions include connecting a relay with an electrolytic capacitor to prolong the output signal. The conversation also touches on the difficulty of finding specific components and connection instructions, with suggestions to contact suppliers for assistance.
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