Electrocution Experience: Analyzing Current, Voltage, and Possible Consequences

Gentlemen, I have a question for you, I was electrocuted today and I would like to know what its current, voltage, etc. could have been.

I will try to describe the situations exactly.

I was cleaning the kitchen today, before that I sprayed the metal top of an electric cooker (with an oven) and when I accidentally touched the top I was electrocuted by quite a strong electric current. Oddly enough, once a few times I was shocked by electricity, e.g. from a 220 V socket, and from what I remember my forearm went numb for a moment, and I couldn't feel the paralysis in my whole body. Today it was different, for a fraction of a second the current was felt as a strong paralysis of the whole body, in my head I also had the impression that someone had hit my head with a blow, my heart seemed to have swelled in that split second, and funny, I jumped up involuntarily . The impression was unpleasant, I also do not know where the flash came from with all this, it flashed white and blue in front of me !!! After all this, I was very excited, and now, even though 17 hours have passed, my heart aches.

But to the point, it turned out that earlier this stove had broken the fuse, so my colleague, by way of elimination, disconnected the cables from the switch mounted on the wall, checking when it stopped striking, I don't know what he had in mind, but he unplugged the ground. What later turned out, when the electrician came, he pulled the top off and showed that the voltage cable that was supposed to go to the oven burned out and touched the metal top directly from the bottom, or it shorted so strongly that he burnt a hole in it.
It was unfortunate that today I touched this table top and was electrocuted quite strongly. Fortunately, the fuse on the main switchboard under the meter has blown, otherwise it would have probably been for me.
Hence my question, as I read somewhere that the short-circuit current has parameters other than normal current, I would like to get help to approximate these new parameters and if any of you know what the risk of death or serious damage to health was.

What can help you, the case took place in the UK (Scotland), the current has a voltage of 220 V here, I do not know what voltage the oven was, (in Poland there are those connected to 380 V) my friend told me that this one was connected to 220 V
The frequency is probably 50 Hz, I'm not sure. If any of you can help me, I will be grateful.

Ps: I did not know in which thread to describe it, hence I chose: experiences ....

Thanks in advance for the answer. Regards

Added after 3 [minutes]:

I will add for the chronology, the electrician came after the electrocution, after that I found out what condition the stove was in.

Regards

But what can I write about. You just got electrocuted. And the reason was a damaged electric stove. And don't let this friend of yours play with electricity, because you can see that he doesn't know anything about it. One day it may end tragically.

Hello lucky guy ,
give exactly what it is fuse turned off, and then you can try to calculate this current, the voltage in the UK is 240V.
And as for the friend: if he is an electrician, he falls under the prosecutor's office (also Scottish) for intentional a homicide attempt, if he's not an electrician, then he's ordinary idiot , in both cases avoid it like fire.

Contrary to appearances, the current was not high and it was definitely not a short-circuit current. Why? Because you are alive.
Since you did not pass out, the current was not more than 20mA.
You managed to break free so the current was less than 15mA.
You jumped, i.e. involuntary muscle contractions and pain. Above 10mA.
So somewhere between 10 and 15mA. I would bet closer to 15mA.
If it were full short circuit current, you wouldn't be posting on the forum anymore and the neighbors would be asking who burned the toast.
The path of the current flow is important. It seems to have flowed through the heart, probably between the hands, or between the arm and the leg. You must have been touching something grounded.

And now...

Immediately after you read it. Take D ... in the straps and fasten as soon as possible emergency, say that you were electrocuted hours ago and your heart still hurts.
An EKG is needed because you may have had ventricular fibrillation. You are at risk of having a heart attack at any moment, not to mention the electrochemical effect of electricity on the blood and organs, which can kill you within days of being electrocuted.
Your blood will probably need to be analyzed to see if the red blood cells have started to break down.
But this is what the doctor will do.

This is not really a joke.

Colleague Madrik is right, don't bother the boy with calculating the currents, just let him go to the doctor. The body may react to the shock EVEN AFTER A FEW DAYS!!! so tell the doctor exactly about the paralysis and how long it lasted - medical help is necessary!!!

Madrik advises you well, it is better to have your heart examined, and as for the perception of electrocution, as colleagues mentioned, they depend on the path of the current flow and its intensity. Once my head touched the traction cord on the gantry crane, it was just a ride , I also saw a flash which is probably the effect of the current on the optic nerves.
The short-circuit current is something else and in this installation it will not flow through the human body.

Thank you, gentlemen, for your quick and specific answers, what about the doctor, I am going today, what the situation is:

In addition to the countertop, I touched the refrigerator (the housing is like metal in most cases)
Parquet floor
You're right, I don't know electricity exactly, I thought it was a short circuit, because the cable that was supposed to go to the oven simply got hot and touched the sheet (heating plate) and burned a hole in it (like a welder), so I thought it was there was a short circuit.

At the moment of the shock, the main fuse on the distribution board under the meter tripped, it saved my life.

I still wonder where the flash in front of my eyes came from.
Why it shocked me so badly, several times more than when I was kicked by electricity from the socket
And why did nothing hurt me for the first few hours and now my heart is teasing ...
After 24 hours, are the doctors able to find the effects after the paralysis in my blood, etc. ??

As for the fuse - I do not know what it turned off, unfortunately ... He must have disconnected the cable with the grounding.

Thanks in advance

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This should also be valuable information:

I grabbed the stove top with my left hand.
The law was based on glaciers.
It didn't burn me anywhere.
I had a fast and uneven heartbeat after the impact.
It didn't overturn me.
I did not lose consciousness and after a few seconds. he was fully aware when the first shock was over. (this two-second unconsciousness boiled down to the fact that I was asking myself: the hell what was it ??
After the accident, I was very excited ...

Electric shock depends on many factors, if you cleaned up, your hands were probably moistened with a liquid which is a good conductor, besides, the path of current flow hand-hand is very dangerous because it leads through the heart.

mauzer1 wrote:

as for the doctor, I am going to choose the most today, as for the situation:

Buddy, don't go to the doctor today, just take it ... immediately. You are EXTREMELY lucky to be still alive. But your condition can worsen very quickly.

Quote from Motronic-

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Its current state is due to the disturbance of the electrolyte balance in the body. He will get over it, he won't get leukemia.

Possible, but also possible is the situation that Col. Madrik wrote about.

Hello, I have already visited the doctor, the health service is strange here, doctors dressed in plain clothes: / and I was in the hospital.

So the doctor told me that since my hands aren't burned or burned, it's probably nothing serious - that the current was not of high voltage.
He did a blood pressure test - slightly elevated, he listened to the heart, according to his listening it was normal, he checked the heart rate - elevated. And he said that these troublesome ailments resulted from the fact that perhaps the heart muscle was irritated by electricity, but it was not dangerous. Just such a shock, due to the paralysis of the muscles and the heart.
And that if I am not unconscious then observation is redundant.
Damn, it was hard for him to understand that if it weren't for the fuse, my hands would have failed, I had never been kicked by an electric current with such force that I had jumped, paralyzed me all over, I felt like a blow to my head and as if my heart swelled, all in a split second , in addition, I saw a blue-white light for the first time while kicking ... But if it wasn't for the fuse, it would have been throbbing me until I hit the ground ... I didn't tear my hands off with my own will only because the fuse cut off the power path.
At the end, the doctor told me to avoid stress and rest for a few days, that's all his recommendations.
As for the situation itself, how is it with this short circuit, is there a short circuit or not?
By definition of a short-circuit: it means a sudden decrease in the resistance of an electric circuit to a very low value, most often caused by connecting the wires in the circuit or damage to the electrical insulation as a result of its breakdown.
This fact probably happened here, since one of the wires was touching the heating plate.
The short-circuit current is many times greater than the operating current and can damage the electrical cables: here again, as I wrote earlier, the temperature was because a hole with a diameter of 2 mm could sleep in the plate.

Probably the body weight was also influenced by 85 kg at 178 cm height, I do not count as lean, and it seems to me that those with a greater weight can take more electricity.

So, in conclusion, the doctor concluded that nothing serious had happened and recommended rest.
As for the whole situation, it shows how simply through no fault of your own (I didn't know anything about your friend's modifications) you can die.

Gentlemen, thank you for your help, I really did not expect so many sensible answers in such a short time
Elektroda.pl - already in your favorites :)

Regards

The fuse that struck was a residual current device. As for the grounding it was connected to the kitchen and it worked. My colleague will be fine, and the electrolysis is caused by direct current, not alternating current.

The grounding cable was unplugged and hidden loosely in a hole in the wall in the place where the on / off contact was installed.

The short circuit was between the phase and the kitchen housing, and the burnout was created before the interference of a colleague. The organisms are controlled by electrical impulses (Volta's experiences with frogs), but very small, when they are large, they are strong muscle contractions and hurt, and the visual impulses are flashes.

Like the cross says, you should see a doctor. High currents flowing through the body cause internal burns, muscle damage and the transfer of muscle pigment into the blood, the so-called myoglobin. It is a substance that is harmful to the work of the kidneys and inhibits urine production. Larger amounts of myoglobin cause fatal poisoning in the affected person only a few days after the attack.

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In short, if you have no problem urinating, don't worry

I've already been to the doctor - see a few posts above
Fortunately, no problems with pissing

The human body has a resistance value much higher than any electrical circuit. That a current would flow through this resistance short circuit it takes a much higher voltage than the electrical outlet. Short-circuit currents reach enormous values. But it does not take such currents to kill a man.
50mA for 5 seconds and no human. The electricity in the socket has a low frequency and is therefore dangerous. 25mA is enough to lead to heart fibrillation.

And Masondra's colleague is not entirely right. You can have ventricular fibrillation for a few days and not feel much worse. I myself have such a person in a close family. Then only the EKG can detect the problem. You can never be too careful.
There were a few people at work who were only diagnosed with a past heart attack during periodic examinations.

WN. it is much more dangerous, but if your picawa is blowing up, it's not too funny.
If your limbs don't get numb for that, don't worry.
When it hits you, it will either light you up or throw you away. NN is also safer.

Any shock is dangerous. Once I was hit when I was installing the socket, and the guy who just had no voltage in the socket, simply went to the switchboard and turned on everything that fell into it, until he found the ESA which secured these sockets to which I also plugged in. When I grabbed the wires protruding from the box, I jumped up, my hand hurt a bit for 3 days, but fortunately everything was protected by a residual current device. Since then, when I do something and turn off some switches in the switching station, I secure them with insulating tape, against unauthorized switching on.

As for the dryness of the thread, it is absolutely necessary, I dug a lot of pages on the Internet and nowhere have I found such good opinions as you gave me, dear colleagues
It's not funny, basically a step, or a fuse separated me from being or not to be.
One could summarize the thread to the phrase: for warning !!!

Added after 18 [minutes]:

As for the fuse that blown, it was RCD

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That I will ask out of curiosity, there have been cases where such a fuse did not work, if so, are they frequent?

Welcome back,
In my opinion, the "parameters" of fire are:
U = 240V
I> 240/1000 = 0.24A
destruction time

Hello
I would like to add two details to the last post, because probably my friend is not an electrician.
The voltage did not exceed 240V even when the stove was connected to 400V, it results from the association of lines. As for the formula where there is 1000, it is the assumed skin resistance, which you probably gave using the lowest possible, in very special cases when the skin is injured it may be less. I think about the friend who was shocked, let him take a little something to calm down, because the problem with the kidneys, electrolysis and whatever else will occur over time, but if he was treated with direct current. Here, the current strongly interfered with the heart and that's all.
George
Normally, before he was kicked, the resistance of shoes, clothes, ground was added, hence the current was smaller and the feeling was milder.
By the way, the older I get, the more and more I pay attention to grounding.

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Sorry when using the phrase colleague I think about the ladies who got electrocuted.
George