Required Permissions & Steps for Connecting an Induction Hob: E Assembly, Measurements, Warranty

Hello.

I have a fairly simple and layman question, because the recent discussions on the forum about what can and cannot be done with given permissions have mixed me up a bit.

Namely, what specific permissions are required to connect an induction hob and similar equipment. Is E assembly enough (if so, with what subpoints), do you need E + measurements, or maybe E + measurements and D?
And is a stamp required in the warranty card, or is a signature with the authorization number sufficient?

I am asking this question because I could not find a specific answer anywhere. It says everywhere that permissions are required, but no one wrote what.

Thank you in advance for your understanding

For connection, the authorizations at the operating position (E) are sufficient, but to accept a given device for operation you must, among others, perform measurements (E + measurements + another person trained in OHS), check the results (D + measurements) and prepare a protocol signed by the persons performing the measurements, the person checking and the person for whom the measurements were performed.
It is best to provide a photocopy of the authorization for the protocol.

If I am wrong somewhere, please correct it.

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I am asking this question because I could not find a specific answer anywhere. It says everywhere that permissions are required, but no one wrote what.

Some manufacturers "require" only a Qualification Certificate at the operating position up to 1kV (renovation, installation) - by writing "an authorized electrician" in the warranty card, while others additionally require "certification" with a stamp (with the address), and as you know, you should comply with manufacturer's requirements because no warranty will be obtained If the receiver is connected permanently, such as this kitchen, it is necessary to take measurements and prepare a report, and this again requires an authorized electrician to sign his work. Nobody will question that (I only wonder who will pay for the measurements )
I think everything is included in the device manual

And if the disc is damaged, they will tell you to unpack it and send it to the service.
I wonder what measurements they can expect. As for the measurement of the circuit ended with a box for connecting the plate (SWZ, insulation), it could have been done before buying and connecting the kitchen, i.e. at the time of completing the construction of the installation.
After connecting the swz and rez board, the circuit insulation will not change, and the insulation resistance of the board itself with the factory wire, as well as the continuity of the factory PE wire, should be checked by the manufacturer before launching the product on the market. That's my opinion.

remik_l wrote:

For connection, the authorizations at the operating position (E) are sufficient, but to accept a given device for operation you must, among others, perform measurements (E + measurements + another person trained in OHS), check the results (D + measurements) and prepare a protocol signed by the persons performing the measurements, the person checking and the person for whom the measurements were performed.
It is best to provide a photocopy of the authorization for the record.

If I am wrong somewhere, please correct it.

I have never faced such demands.
The manufacturer wants the cooker to be properly connected to each type of electrical installation. Because it determines the user's safety and the proper operation of the device. Therefore, its connection should be made by an electrician with a valid assembly group for devices up to 1 kV. And nothing more. Nobody requires a stamp, but you must provide the name and surname, PESEL number, and the number of the qualification certificate. The address is not required.

And traditionally, how many people have so many different answers. You can see what our right is
The only question is who is right?
(of course, I asked about the situation with the completed and measured installation, with a ready box for connecting the plate, and the plate connected permanently).

Manufacturers reserve, under the pain of losing the warranty, that the connection may be made by a person having the appropriate electrical qualifications. The question arises what are the appropriate electrical qualifications to connect an electric stove In the case of a device terminated with a plug - none.

A colleague retrofood wrote:

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Nobody requires a stamp, but you must provide the name and surname, PESEL number, and the number of the qualification certificate. The address is not required.

If I'm not mistaken, the producers of Goranje and Whirpool require a stamp. What if we don't have it? In my opinion, the warranty card should then contain the name of the installer, authorization number and possibly the installer's home address. The question is who to bring to criminal liability in the event of problems. I have not yet met with the necessity to provide a PESEL number - or maybe I have not connected many cookers
When it comes to taking measurements to a permanently connected receiver, shouldn't we even check the continuity of the protective conductor? A good (cautious) installer, as a "dupochron", will perform the measurements even in the case of replacement of the socket. This is not a must for this stove - but rather a good rule of thumb.

So, to sum up, in the case of an installation prepared for connecting the plate, to make the connections, the E qualifications in the field of installation, point 2 (or maybe 5) are sufficient? and in the warranty card, your data + signature if there is no stamp?

It is enough to connect an electrician with an E-assembly up to 1kV (stamp or entered data). Although it is advisable to check the correctness of the activities performed (as I mentioned), the manufacturer does not request a test report - then you need a "slightly" wider scope of rights
Unfortunately, not everyone knows about it and it is a pity that there is no such record. However, I believe that such a provision should be included in the terms of the guarantee.

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(or maybe 5)

What is he saying?

Thanks for the answer ;)

Akrzy74 wrote:

What is he saying?

I meant what sub-points in permissions are needed.
Is subsection no. 2 - devices, installations and power networks with a voltage of not more than 1kV. Is also the subsection no. 5 - electrothermal devices.

Akrzy74 wrote:

I have not yet met with the necessity to provide a PESEL number - or maybe I have not connected many cookers

This is due to the fact that there is no address on the qualification certificate, only the PESEL number. The address falls under the Personal Data Protection Act.

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Is subsection no. 2 - devices, installations and power networks with a voltage not exceeding 1kV. Is also the subsection no. 5 - electrothermal devices.

Item No. 5 is not required.

elek2000 wrote:

"Give the recipe where it says that the measurement protocol is to be signed by a specialist with group E and by a specialist with group D, not to mention the person for whom these measurements were performed.

Maybe there is no such provision, but in the protocols, I have repeatedly found places where such persons sign themselves. More than once, I took the protocols to the person commissioning the measurements to be signed and the second (signed) copy was brought back to the company, which ended up in the binder.