logo elektroda
logo elektroda
X
logo elektroda

OCz 500 Watt Power Supply and Ever Strip causing House Fuses to Blow - Possible Causes?

labok 25073 36
ADVERTISEMENT
Treść została przetłumaczona polish » english Zobacz oryginalną wersję tematu
  • #1 8628644
    labok
    Level 9  
    Hello
    I have the following problem.
    I have an ever strip still under warranty.
    The power supply in the computer is new OCz 500 watt. The problem is that often when I turn on the strip, it blows the fuses in my house. but not always and I don't know where
    there's a problem.
    A computer with a new power supply is connected to the strip.
    I thought maybe the fault of the socket, but I connected the strip to another and the same.
    And at the moment I do not know if the problem is in the power strip switch or in the computer, maybe in the new power supply (I replaced the cable from the power supply, without improvement).

    I tried to connect other devices to the strip and it was ok, but when the computer is connected, it often crashes. Once I can turn it on several times and it's ok, and sometimes it crashes the first time, I see a spark on the switch.

    Maybe you can advise something, the strip and the power supply are under warranty, but I don't know where to send it, I don't want to fool around, and maybe the motherboard is something. If the problem was repeatable, I would quickly solve it, but I can't.

    thanks for the help
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #2 8628659
    km4
    Level 17  
    connect the power supply without the power strip and see if you blow the fuse. Is it a good idea?
    I have the same vacuum cleaner in my room. In my opinion, the fuse is too sensitive, replacement should help, although let others speak.
  • #3 8628679
    labok
    Level 9  
    I don't really have a way to connect the computer directly to the socket, the cable is too short :/

    When the computer is connected to a normal extension cord (the one without a switch), naturally nothing happens.

    I think I'll buy a second strip with a switch and only then I'll find out if the fault of the strip or the computer, and if the computer, I don't know if it's the fault of my new allowance or something with the motherboard :/
  • #4 8628719
    km4
    Level 17  
    the motherboard has nothing to do with it.

    and also check what is the maximum load of the strip
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #5 8628723
    pablito28
    Level 10  
    Hello, I had a similar problem in the strip, the ground wire shorted 2 others, I insulated and after the trouble
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #7 8629357
    labok
    Level 9  
    Yes, it's a letter, but does it matter?
  • #8 8629540
    adamadi33
    Level 43  
    This skirting board cannot be dismantled, it should be claimed if there is such a possibility. If not, a new skirting board must be purchased.
  • #9 8629556
    labok
    Level 9  
    Hmm, but how do I know if it's the fault of the strip or the power supply??
    How to check it, I do not have another strip with a switch.
  • #10 8629570
    spoko_janko
    Level 19  
    Connect something that consumes several hundred W (vacuum cleaner or something else that consumes power) and check if it still crashes on another receiver, then check what devices you have connected on a given phase and what is their total power:] (do you happen to have a high power consumption almost on contact).
  • #11 8629601
    km4
    Level 17  
    it is the fault of this strip, so I had to make sure.
    This strip has a maximum load [W]: 460. You must buy a new strip that will have more than 500< otherwise it will crash all the time. The strip crashes randomly because sometimes it will surprise and sometimes it won't because it blows the fuses.
    That's it
  • #12 8630242
    labok
    Level 9  
    So yes, I connected the second strip of evera and the same. Naturally, sometimes it crashes only on the switch, if I don't move the switch, nothing happens. One evera I have the standard of the other comfort (so I already know that it is not the strip that is broken).

    Earlier I had a 350 Watt modecom power supply, and I never had these problems, now I have an OCZ 500 WAT.

    I connected the vacuum cleaner and it's ok, but if I first turn on the vacuum cleaner button and then put it in the strip, it crashes.

    And now 2 questions, if before turning on the strip, I will cut off the power in the computer (with the button on the back on the power supply, it will not crash), but is it normal?? should it be like that? that I have to turn off the power first on the power supply and then turn on the power on the strip??

    Has anyone seen strips that have a greater load on one socket than those evera?

    But can you send the power supply to the service, maybe something is wrong with it?

    thanks for the help
  • #13 8630965
    spoko_janko
    Level 19  
    Re 1
    Check how much power you have on a given phase of power consumption (if there is no situation after turning on the receiver / computer or vacuum cleaner, the total instantaneous power / sum of power of all receivers that can normally operate with a given fuse / - the easiest way is to get to the fuse box and by turning it off or on, track what you have connected to a given power line).

    Then calculate the power of everything that is connected there: voltage, result in Amperes, add +25% to this result (correction just in case, e.g. connectors or start of receivers) if the value is close to the fuse amperage (about 16 A / about 3kW in a thicker round ) then you have an overload of the power line when the device starts up (you can circumvent this with toys so that they turn on the receiver at the zero point, but it's too much to mess around with supplies in the network and you need a certificate to get it so that there are no problems in case of an accident, self-made so drops out).

    As you have 16A fuses on a given phase and you pull > 2.5 kW, it is possible that the overload at the time of switching on the receiver (temporary increased power consumption for charging electrolytes, etc. start-up - it is normal that during start-up the rated power of the receiver is exceeded by some percentage). The most sensible thing would then be to switch something to another phase to reduce the power consumption from a given phase.

    Since both the power supply and another receiver cause overloads, it is normal (exceeding the current and therefore blowing the overcurrent fuse) and correct because this is how the protection works so that, for example, there is no fire due to a short circuit in the electrical installation.
    It is possible that something like this happens: the sine wave goes up and down, you turn it on and there is a temporary break above the level ('pin' in the power supply) as a result of connecting another receiver, which in turn triggers the fuse.

    Re 2
    Something like a soft start would be useful, but I doubt if computer power supplies etc. will like it and if it will not be damaged due to the soft start system (read: the power supply could not survive it).

    Try to give a stronger strip and if it doesn't work, relieve the power line (phase).

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    km4 wrote:
    connect the power supply without the power strip and see if you blow the fuse. Is it a good idea?
    I have the same vacuum cleaner in my room. In my opinion, the fuse is too sensitive, replacement should help, although let others speak.

    Reaction time, but I doubt you would get something legal and certified, it's best to talk to an electrician, probably SEP'owszczyzna - that is, the response time of the fuse, and the pulse width of the "pin" and safety in the event that this 'pin' was the result of an electric shock of the human factor (i.e. slower a fuse can kill [allow an electric shock for too long] and a too fast one will blow every single pin).
  • #14 8630982
    sigjon
    Level 11  
    Firstly, connect to the last PC socket, before the last one is Monitor,

    If it doesn't crash, then use the cable from the monitor to test the next sockets,
  • #15 8630987
    km4
    Level 17  
    a stronger strip should pass the exam,

    Read about your power supplies on the manufacturer's website...
  • #16 8632688
    labok
    Level 9  
    Nothing happens to the strip if I don't use the switch from it. The computer runs and does nothing.

    Also, nothing happens if I turn on the strip (and earlier I turn off the power supply with the button on the back of the housing).

    The fuse crashes even when the computer itself without a monitor is connected to this strip!

    I would like to buy a new, stronger strip, but nowhere does it mention the load on one socket, but only about the entire strip, i.e. 2000 or 3500 watts. I don't know what to buy.
  • #17 8632730
    mati211p
    HDD and data recovery specialist
    Connect the computer through a regular extension cord and see if it blows the fuse. If so, just change to a larger one or the same but slow-blow.
  • #18 8632739
    labok
    Level 9  
    hm, you probably didn't read it, nothing happens with an ordinary extension cord, nothing happens with these strips either. It only happens when I press the power button on this strip :)
  • #19 8632755
    mati211p
    HDD and data recovery specialist
    Maybe you have a varistor damaged in this strip, because I understand that it has a built-in fuse and it does not burn out, only the main one throws it out, although I doubt it, or some strong sparking when turned on, which is more likely due to high current consumption.
  • #20 8632866
    labok
    Level 9  
    I have two evera strips and both throw a fuse at home, so I rather doubt that both are broken.
  • #21 8632968
    Yellow Tigra
    Level 16  
    And what turns off is a fuse or maybe a residual current device? (Then on the housing you have the activation threshold, e.g. 30 mA and usually the test button).
  • #22 8635518
    labok
    Level 9  
    I don't know what switch I have, I've never seen a test button.
    Anyone know of any power strips with a load greater than 460 watts per socket?
    Can someone knowledgeable tell me if it's the power supply?
  • #23 8635722
    adamadi33
    Level 43  
    Buddy, it's best to let an electrician see it and it will be after trouble. After all, it is a voltage of 230V~.
  • #24 8636071
    Wojtek(KeFir)
    Level 42  
    No, he won't, because it's the skirting board's fault. Specifically, the copied filter design. By connecting everything that consumes a lot of electricity and turning it on with a switch in the strip, you will knock out the plugs. And another unanswered question, crashes "S" or differential?

    This is due to the fact that this strip has a bad switch, the contacts are slowly coming together, the spark is jumping, the varistor is releasing the overvoltage, the plug is knocking out. Change the manufacturer of the skirting board, or better get a regular extender.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #25 8636453
    km4
    Level 17  
    labok wrote:
    I don't know what switch I have, I've never seen a test button.
    Anyone know of any power strips with a load greater than 460 watts per socket?
    Can someone knowledgeable tell me if it's the power supply?

    My friend still can't believe that his wonderful skirting board is failing because it has 2, standard and comfort :sm8:
  • #26 8636507
    pepe150
    Level 36  
    In my case, the Lestar strip from the LV series also knocked out plugs, even without a load.
    It also depends on the installation. In the previous apartment, it was breaking because he wanted to. Apparently, the fuse (type S) was a bit flimsy, or the cable cross-section in the installation was too small.
    In a new place, it was crashing due to contamination inside. After cleaning there was no problem.
  • #27 8636530
    labok
    Level 9  
    Well, it's hard for me to believe because I have 2 letters :) so the probability that as many as 2 strips are broken that have a 5-year warranty is low. The power supply that was previously in the 350 WAT computer did not cause such problems, so logic dictates that maybe something with the new power supply.

    And if it's the fault of these 2 letters? so it probably doesn't qualify for warranty?
    what brand of slats do you recommend, since evera are bad? :)

    I don't know what this fuse is called, they are all automatic, and it's not the main fuse responsible for everything :)

    Regards
  • #28 8636554
    pepe150
    Level 36  
    Apparently mine also has a 5-year warranty, and after 2 years of use, it was the fuses that were happening.
    I already have a second Lestar at home and I have almost never had any problems with them
    Both are from the better series, have 2 fuses, and, depending on the model, an ethernet filter.
  • #29 8637047
    Wojtek(KeFir)
    Level 42  
    I prefer self-made. You know exactly what's inside. Give a piece of decent 2.5mm^2 cable (if you buy it in a store, it will turn out to be thicker than all the ones you have at home), I prefer OWY, in rubber insulation. A decent plug, hermetic. A twist switch like from a concrete mixer and several sockets with double springs in the contacts. All on a tasteful piece of board.
  • #30 8637084
    km4
    Level 17  
    @wojtek__(KeFir) very interesting, you can present this strip, it sucks me out of curiosity.

    Just because it has a 5-year warranty doesn't mean it's a good security bar.
    Check the specification of the skirting board, it will be useful when you insist on this guarantee. They can send you back saying that you chose a power supply that is not really designed for such things (this is the power consumption).
    If you don't know what to take, go to the store, get a strip a little higher and see how it will perform. You can also ask those who do once on vegetables once on rtv how it is with the slats. Ask for any returns, because you can do that.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a recurring issue where an OCz 500 Watt power supply connected to an Ever Strip power strip causes house fuses to blow intermittently. The user suspects the problem may lie with the power strip, the power supply, or the electrical socket. Various suggestions are made, including testing the power supply directly without the strip, checking the maximum load of the strip, and considering the possibility of a faulty switch or varistor in the strip. Users also discuss the importance of understanding the power consumption of connected devices and the potential for high inrush current from the power supply to trip fuses. Recommendations include using a stronger power strip, checking the electrical installation, and possibly replacing the power supply if issues persist.
Summary generated by the language model.
ADVERTISEMENT