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Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure

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  • #1 9225043
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure
    Hello.
    I got this server power supply, which is to be used for slightly different purposes and I need information on: description of the power supply outputs and how to start "dry" ...

    Are you able to help?
    Thanks in advance

    Regards
    Robert
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  • #2 9225305
    TONI_2003
    Moderator
    Hello.
    If you think that such laconic information without documenting it with photos from the sticker and the power supply itself with its main plugs is to be omitted. :cry:
  • #3 9225589
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    TONI_2003 wrote:
    Hello.
    If you think that such laconic information without documenting it with photos from the sticker and the power supply itself with its main plugs is to be omitted. :cry:


    From the above I understand that more info and total graphic and music documentation is needed....

    I'm already correcting myself by posting a photo from some shop (I hope I won't break the rules)...
    photo of the power supply

    and completing the data:
    the power supply was most often used in the ML350 G4 server of the ProLiant series

    I'll post more detailed pics if needed...

    Regards
    Robert
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  • #4 9228309
    Holtek
    Computer PSUs specialist
    There is always a need when you start a topic with the repair of a power supply, especially in the case of such a rare model. We are waiting for photos, also of the inside. You can guess the pins of some voltages by looking at the pins of the wires on the board itself.
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  • #5 9231280
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    Okay, here's the picture...
    Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure

    Regards
    Robert
  • #6 9233262
    TONI_2003
    Moderator
    If you can't find +5V AUX after connecting to the 230V mains, you will not be able to start this power supply alone, and it is probably not a standalone unit ....
  • #7 9233381
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    It turns out that these 5V occur ... (again, the description is missing - my fault).
    After connecting to the mains, the fan turns on and the value of 5V appears. Are you suggesting to connect any load to these 5V? I suspect that this is not enough - in other types of server power supplies, even HP, unfortunately, you have to short the contacts (Power ON or Stand-by type with GND) ... The only question is which of the outputs correspond to these connections?

    edit: 26 Mar 2011 20:48
    Hello after a short break...

    I managed to get to my power supply so-called. backplane with connections and here's another problem. The 20 and 24 pin molex plugs are probably connected differently than in the ATX standards (those are the HP bears) - here's the question: does anyone from the esteemed group of electrode enthusiasts know the description of these plugs?

    Regards
    Robert
  • #8 9326512
    taniam
    Level 20  
    Try to bite it from the other side - look in the documentation of the boards with which the power supply worked.
    I had a similar problem and just using the motherboard manual I was able to solve it.
  • #9 9388680
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    Unfortunately, I couldn't find such documentation that would contain the information I need...
    Coming back to the power supply - I managed to start it, and the connection shown is in the attached photo.
    Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure
    I hope that such a connection will suffice and to find out about it, there are still load tests to be performed.
    I have a new goal ahead of me: I would like the target power plant consisting of two such power supplies to give both 12V and 24V.

    Questions:
    1. What to pay attention to?
    2. How to approach the topic?
    3. It is true that the housings will not touch each other, but should you try to "disconnect" the ground from the housing of at least one of them?
    4. Does the drawing correctly show that the ground of the 2 power supplies should not be connected?
    Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure

    Regards
    Robert
  • #10 9389048
    taniam
    Level 20  
    Here I will answer you as an electrician - "grounding", i.e. the protective conductor must be connected. It does not matter whether it will be the PE conductor of the power line or the equipotential bonding, the potentials must be equalized on both housings.
  • #11 9390211
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    Well, that's the answer to the question. No. 4 is - thanks! - I'm waiting for advice on the others so as not to burn something...
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  • #12 9390862
    taniam
    Level 20  
    Just take into account that I am speaking looking at this in terms of the safety of using electrical devices.
    To common sense, the combination you're proposing doesn't sound right.
    GND (-) from the power supply output is the same potential as the housing, the housings of both power supplies also have the same potential (at least according to me they must have it). By shorting +12V of one of the power supplies with GND (-) of the other you will make a short circuit.
    I don't have enough knowledge to predict what can be done with this contraption from the "electronic" side. Personally, I have not encountered the "bridging" of 2 impulse power supplies in order to double the voltage and I do not think it is possible.
  • #13 9390908
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    When I started to modify the power supply, I came across this this page - but it turns out that it may not be so simple in my case. At the beginning, I will check whether the ground, let's say at the input, is connected to the ground (GND at the output) ...
  • #14 9391465
    taniam
    Level 20  
    As far as I am good in English, after a cursory reading of the linked page, I can agree with the solution presented there.
    The guest solved the problem of the need to "ground" the enclosures by additional insulation of the finished device. This solution is correct from the point of view of electric shock protection.
    If you close these power supplies in a non-conductive housing, you do not need to connect the PE wire. If you additionally isolate them from each other, I think that they will work without any problems as 2x12 or 1x24V.
  • #15 9393070
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    However, if I would like to leave the ground wire, is the variant:
    - PE cable connected to two power supplies, housings separated from ground (GND - output), power supplies isolated from each other - will it be in line with the art and has a chance to "survive", especially when it comes to electronics?
  • #16 9393192
    taniam
    Level 20  
    You will simply use a different variant of "isolation" - no one should be hurt.
    I'm just curious if it will be so easy to isolate the electronics from the housing, in a regular AT / ATX power supply, 4 washers are enough, interesting how it is in the case of your model.
    As for electronics - I've already written, my knowledge in this area is too modest to comment authoritatively. It should work for common sense.
  • #17 9394519
    swiatrob
    Level 11  
    Separation is then even easier than in the ATX power supply... Just remove the contact point marked in the photo below (this is the only place where the housing connects to the electronic part).

    Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure

    Regards
    Robert
  • #18 16080168
    gera2000
    Level 1  
    HP model: PS-3701-1C - pin out - start zasilacza.
    Server Power Supply HP PS-3701-1C: Pin Out and Dry Start Procedure

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the HP PS-3701-1C server power supply, focusing on its pinout and dry start procedure. The user seeks detailed information about the power supply outputs and how to initiate it without a load. Initial responses emphasize the need for documentation and images of the power supply. The user provides additional photos and clarifies that the power supply is commonly used in the HP ProLiant ML350 G4 server. Participants discuss the necessity of a +5V AUX signal for startup and the potential need to short specific contacts. The conversation also touches on safety concerns regarding grounding when using multiple power supplies to achieve 12V and 24V outputs. Various suggestions are made regarding isolation and grounding practices to ensure safe operation.
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