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Programming the F&F Pabianice smart home system – where to start?

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    adampower
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    Does anyone know how to programme the F&F Pabianice smart home control system?
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    INTOUCH
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    Do you have to work on something like that?
    Find something better.
    http://www.nexwell.eu/ – also a Polish company
    http://frisko.com.pl/ – ideal for central heating systems – Polish-made and good
    Remember that the entire control system must be connected to an uninterruptible power supply.
    A UPS with a capacity of 2kW or more.
    More – you’ll work this out from your calculations of the power consumed by the control system.
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    kasprzyk
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    INTOUCH wrote:

    A UPS with a capacity of 2 kW or more.
    More – you’ll work this out from your calculations of the power drawn by the control system.


    Mate, is this UPS just for convenience or for other reasons?

    Regards
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    INTOUCH
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    A smart home is about more than just controlling the lighting.
    Imagine what might happen if the home automation system suddenly lost power. This is one type of emergency situation.
    I’m not talking about a UPS to power the main circuits, but a UPS to maintain control functions.
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    kasprzyk
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    Well, I can’t really imagine what would happen :)
    The biggest inconvenience – and even a potential hazard – is when the roller shutters are closed; I haven’t yet come across a customer who used a battery backup for centralised roller shutter control – although it would be a practical solution, the thing is that you’re talking about backing up the control system, not the actuators – so my example was a bit off the mark ;)

    So, what is this UPS supposed to power in the system (I’ll leave out the alarm, which is obvious, and CCTV could also be included, but that’s a broader issue, and rarely used in a detached house), when there’s no mains power and we won’t be able to use:
    lighting, any other appliances connected to 230V sockets, roller shutters, heating (where heat pumps, gas or oil-fired boilers, or electric heating are used), gates, side gates, sprinklers, water pumps, etc.?
    Could you give some examples? I’m currently in the process of selecting a buffer power supply, but only for the alarm system; with an IB system, it’s not easy to achieve a satisfactory backup time; if additional building services were to be added by then, phew ;) we’d have to build a second plant room.
    Best regards.
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    kemot55
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    What do you want to programme in F&HOME? Also, if you already have this system and want to change something – I’d probably leave that to the installer. Besides, do you have the correct passwords to access the configuration? The programming itself can be learnt in a matter of minutes. However, the interrelationships between all the components and the intelligent :-) configuration of parameters is a different matter altogether.
    To my colleague INTOUCH . What’s wrong with the F&HOME system? Do you have any negative comments?
    As for a backup power supply, unfortunately, I’ve recently found myself really wanting to have one to hand. Perhaps not a UPS, but a generator might sometimes be needed (unfortunately rarely in the city, but in some of today’s trendy out-of-the-way spots). I recently lost about three weeks’ worth of work (due to a power cut lasting just one day). Nowadays, smart homes even offer ‘automatic dog walking’ – so what’s the big deal about a generator? :-) .
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    kasprzyk
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    kemot55 wrote:
    Now smart homes offer an ‘automatic dog-walking’ feature – so what’s the point of a generator? :-) .


    I can still get my head round that, but what about automatically bringing him back? :D :D
    because, from what I’ve heard, electric lead collars are banned in Poland.
    Regards
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    INTOUCH
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    kemot55 wrote:
    To my colleague INTOUCH. What’s wrong with the F&HOME system? Do you have any negative comments?

    How does it work with other open control standards, remote control via a remote control, and integration with room managers? Not great.
    I must admit, however, that FIF has a few interesting technical solutions worth looking into, and not just when it comes to smart buildings.
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    kemot55
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    All in all, the system (from what I’ve heard) is developing quite rapidly. But of course, you’re quite right. At the moment, F&HOME is essentially limited to the manufacturer’s modules. On the other hand, everyone wants everything to be as cheap and as compact as possible, which is leading to a mass exodus of Polish designers away from developing such systems.
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