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How to connect the plug to the cable? (?) Which color to what? (??)

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  • #1 1115408
    pawel_kurzyn
    Level 11  
    How to connect the plug to the cable ?? Which color for what ??? I'm not an electronics engineer, and I don't think it should be a problem for you. Well, three wires come out of the cable: brown, blue and two-color green. Which is grounding ??? Because the other 2 is probably no matter later, am I wrong ???
    (??) - an ornament? [h]
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  • #2 1115469
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #3 1116873
    lordac
    Level 15  
    you are as wrong as you deal with the norms on a daily basis; If I remember correctly, if the protective pin is at the top, the phase should be on the left and zero on the right.
  • #4 1117164
    sawitar
    Level 18  
    On the other hand, it seems to me that PN does not regulate which side of the protective phase should be, and which side is zero. In the English standard, it is strictly defined.
  • #5 1117187
    mzielin
    Level 22  
    Unfortunately - this is already defined - "lordac" is right. The phase in new installations must be on the left ;) .
  • #6 1117247
    bajer1
    Level 32  
    hello and you can specify by looking at the socket in the wall, which phase should be for the answer thanks. I plug the sockets and plugs, but it is worth knowing from which the standard provides.
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  • #7 1117294
    elektryk
    Level 42  
    bajer1 wrote:
    hello and you can specify by looking at the socket in the wall which phase should be for the answer thanks
    Pin on the top, chamfer on the left. I think even the standard also specifies that the pin is to be on top, at least that's how they clearly suggest during the SEP training.
  • #8 1118686
    ekaand
    Level 22  
    Connecting the phase to the right side of the socket is not a mistake (I would rather say that it is inconvenient for an electrician), because there is no standard for it.
    However, the principle arose among electricians that the phase is connected on the left side and I believe that this should be followed.
  • #9 1119089
    sawitar
    Level 18  
    And how will it be with double sockets (for one can)? In such a nest it is impossible to include the phases on the left in both connectors (they must be alternately)
  • #10 1119120
    chrischris
    Level 13  
    I know that in a single socket, in the absence of a separate ground connection, the ground pin can be connected to zero. What about double sockets? Then it would mean that in the nests phase and zero will be connected the other way around. Is it possible to do this (apart from the fact that the ground will be looped, which may cause noise e.g. in an audio amplifier)?
  • #12 1120287
    lordac
    Level 15  
    As far as I know, the standard itself with colors and pins connected to them was created for the convenience and safety of installers, which sometimes is irrelevant because most of the neon checks where the phase is, the same as the standards (I do not know if it exists in PN, but some European countries for sure) regarding light switches; we set them so that when turned off, the top of the flap is pressed so that dust does not collect. So it is not likely to have an impact on audio equipment, especially since equipment in the class of home appliances rarely uses a protective conductor. If it is, however, it would be best if it was connected to the proper protective conductor and not to the transformer zero; the voltage differences can then be of the volt range, which can sometimes be dangerous.
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  • #13 1122028
    lordac
    Level 15  
    And since such a thread has already been started, I have a question:

    When designing a device, we would like to equip it - where will we connect the protective conductor? It would be pointless to the local mass, would it?
  • #14 1123035
    lordac
    Level 15  
    since nobody knows, tomorrow I will try to ask about it during the lecture and post the answer ...

Topic summary

The discussion centers around connecting a plug to a cable with three wires: brown, blue, and yellow-green. The consensus is that the yellow-green wire is for grounding, the blue wire is for neutral, and the brown wire is for the phase. Participants debate the correct orientation of the plug in relation to the socket, with a preference for having the phase on the left when the protective pin is at the top. There are mentions of standards and practices regarding wiring, including the lack of strict regulations in some cases. Concerns about double sockets and the implications of connecting ground to neutral are also raised, emphasizing safety and proper installation practices.
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