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Restoring & Registering 1974 Moped: Steps for Registration without Original Papers

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  • #1 10989928
    Marceloton14
    Level 10  
    Hello, I would like to register the moped that I found in the shed and pimped.
    It was rusty and after the accident (bent suspension), a few elements were missing, I bought it and put it together. I have registrations, everything else, i.e. the number plate is. The moped belonged to my brother-in-law's uncle. Is registration possible? I note that the moped is from 1974.

    Thanks in advance.
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  • #2 10990266
    kamil907
    Level 28  
    If you do not have any proof of ownership, it is not possible to register such a moped.
    My cousin had a similar situation. He wanted to register the old WSKa which he restored. It had been deregistered for over a dozen years, but the cousin had an invoice confirming the purchase of this motorcycle by his father, so we managed to re-register it without any major problems.
  • #3 10995648
    autocash
    Level 2  
    Everything is due to the fact that the office does not know whether you found this moped in the shed or stole it. So ask your uncle for the documents. Alternatively, you can go to the office and tell you what the situation is - maybe they will tell you who the moped was last registered for. Maybe this someone sold it later without papers, and keeps them somewhere at home?
    First things first, ask your uncle :-)
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  • #4 10995667
    sajmosia
    Level 17  
    I heard that in France there is no need to register up to 50cc ...

    greetings
  • #6 10995682
    sajmosia
    Level 17  
    autocash wrote:
    You have to


    Yes - but this is the last resort - as if in Poland some strange coincidence it was "impossible" it can always be an import from France :)

    Greetings.
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  • #7 10996043
    autocash
    Level 2  
    I don't think it's that easy in the long run

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    In two years (the moped will be 40) you will not need to have a civil liability insurance. Perhaps then such a number would pass.
  • #8 11014938
    Marceloton14
    Level 10  
    I also heard that you can register as a collector, e.g. I bought parts from some peasant, found the frame in a shed, etc.
  • #9 11017059
    kamil907
    Level 28  
    You can, but you must have papers for the frame.
  • #10 11017140
    pietia215
    Level 9  
    I do not know if it is still valid, but once there was an option that you went to the nearest Police unit and checked there if such a vehicle was clean (whether it had been stolen), and then with a confirmation issued by the Police, you went to the communication department. It is known that if the motorbike is stolen, they will have to secure it :cry: . If I were you, I would go to the communications department and ask what to do.
  • #11 16327951
    CHOPIN66
    Level 14  
    Hello
    Sorry to refresh the topic, I have a similar dilemma and I do not want to open a new topic, so please moderators not to close the topic and not move the post to the trash. :) I have the opportunity to buy a hound 200 in a very good condition and at an attractive price. The problem is that the seller bought it from a certain gentleman without papers and did not write down a purchase and sale contract. The moped earlier was ridden by the father-in-law, from whom the current seller bought a hound.
    The moped stood for 6 years in the basement under the sheet before the person from whom I want to buy it purchased it. If I write a Purchase-Sale agreement and I want to register the moped for a unique one, will there be no legal problems related to it? :) Please very quick reply. :D
    Regards
    EDIT: 2017-03-07 10:59

    I sent an e-mail with an inquiry on this matter to WK in Szczecin :)
  • #12 16329678
    zed71
    Level 23  
    If the hound is 25 years old, you can try to register it on the basis of a purchase contract. First you have to write a contract that you are the owner, an expert opinion, then tests (now obligatory even for mopeds) and an OC fee. then, on the basis of a contract, you register it (unless you have a registration certificate - then you need to have continuity of contracts, but the appraiser is not required).
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  • #13 16330447
    CHOPIN66
    Level 14  
    I watched this hound and an interesting surprise came out - it has only 2 digits of the frame number :shocked!: how much can it cost to get a new frame number on a moped? because in the car I know that together with an expert, a visit to WK and a diagnostic station in total PLN 400 :shocked!: .
  • #14 16388515
    katerinio
    Level 1  
    Hello! I have a problem, I have a scooter / piaggio-zip, 12 years old now /. I got it as a gift, I bought a new one, in a salon, I paid for insurance for 8 years, abroad. I brought it to Poland and has been in the garage for 4 years, because I lost its registration certificate! What now? I was already asking in the office, I was told to translate it / then I had it /, I sent it to my friend for translation .. He died in a letter or she "sowed" somewhere. What is the way out of this situation now, is there any? paper that I was given / in Polish / and old proof of payment for the alliance in my name.
  • #15 16388677
    bogdanpower
    Level 11  
    As for the older ones, I suggest contacting an expert who deals with the registration of monuments. If it is not stolen, it only costs money. I have heard about registration as a collector, it does not cost as a monument, but you have to ask, my friend did so, without papers, but not for a monument. ;)

    I recommend that difficult matters be dealt with by post in the office, then if they do not want to register something, they have to justify and provide a paragraph, and you know how to proceed.

    katerinio wrote:
    Hello! I have a problem, I have a scooter / piaggio-zip, 12 years old now /. I got it as a gift, I bought a new one, in a salon, I paid for insurance for 8 years, abroad. I brought it to Poland and has been in the garage for 4 years, because I lost its registration certificate! What now? I was already asking in the office, I was told to translate it / then I had it /, I sent it to my friend for translation .. He died in a letter or she "sowed" somewhere. What is the way out of this situation now, is there any? paper that I was given / in Polish / and old proof of payment for the alliance in my name.


    Perhaps you will need a letter to an office abroad, or a trip abroad, ask at the communication office with us, they also have offices abroad, they should give you some confirmation from the office from abroad that this equipment belonged to you. At the office in our country, they must have some kind of pad that this equipment belongs to you.

    CHOPIN66 wrote:
    a visit to the WK and a diagnostic station in total PLN 400
    It will probably be a little cheaper for a moped.

    On the page below, there were once described ways to register monuments, but the browser tells me that the page contains malware, so it's better not to try to enter without an antivirus. 8-O :-?
    http://www.oldtimery.com/

Topic summary

To register a 1974 moped without original papers, proof of ownership is essential. If ownership documents are unavailable, contacting the previous owner or their relatives for any existing paperwork is advisable. In some cases, a police check can confirm if the vehicle is stolen, which is necessary before proceeding with registration. In Poland, registration may be possible if the moped is over 40 years old, as it may not require civil liability insurance. Additionally, registering as a collector or using a purchase contract can be viable options, but continuity of ownership documentation is crucial. Seeking guidance from local communication offices or experts in vehicle registration is recommended for navigating the process.
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