On the forum it is stated, yes, that the cylinders in the Renault Klio count from the clutch. Is the clutch so important only in Klio or in all Renault? Thank you in advance for your answer.

We count all Renault from the power take-off side.

And now the question - how are PSA cylinders counted? Because today I was doing 206, the tester shows a damaged injector on the fourth cylinder, from the diagram after the controller pins, it was also marked as the fourth, and the injector was faulty right from the timing side.

And it was not 1.4 16V HDI sometimes?

Just in this case, the cyl. 1 is on the flywheel side.

I have my own way of doing it, I make an error and check which cylinder the driver sees it on.

Paweł, this is what I have been doing since time immemorial. Why, it's 100% certain that you are combing in the right place

And so I cause an error, especially in gasoline engines, but each time I have to buy a wire for a candle - it's a bit expensive but very helpful!

Importance of Clutch in Cylinder Counting: A Comparison Between Renault Klio and Other Models

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#1 12230056 23 Apr 2013 11:01

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12230056 23 Apr 2013 11:01

On the forum it is stated, yes, that the cylinders in the Renault Klio count from the clutch.
Is the clutch so important only in Klio or in all Renault?
Thank you in advance for your answer.
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#2 12230060 23 Apr 2013 11:03

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We count all Renault from the "power take-off" side.
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#3 12230078 23 Apr 2013 11:09

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12230078 23 Apr 2013 11:09

Thank you!
#4 12230093 23 Apr 2013 11:14

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12230093 23 Apr 2013 11:14

From the flywheel.
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12232650 23 Apr 2013 22:13

And now the question - how are PSA cylinders counted? Because today I was doing 206, the tester shows a damaged injector on the fourth cylinder, from the diagram after the controller pins, it was also marked as the fourth, and the injector was faulty right from the timing side.
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12232686 23 Apr 2013 22:22

Motronic wrote:
Because today I was doing 206

And it was not 1.4 16V HDI sometimes?
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#7 12232693 23 Apr 2013 22:24

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12232693 23 Apr 2013 22:24

No, 1.4 gasoline on the S2000
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Motronic wrote:
No, 1.4 gasoline on the S2000

Just in this case, the cyl. 1 is on the flywheel side.
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12232972 23 Apr 2013 23:37

I have my own way of doing it, I make an error and check which cylinder the driver sees it on.
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12232982 23 Apr 2013 23:41

Pawel wawa wrote:
I trigger an error and check which cylinder the driver sees it on.

Paweł, this is what I have been doing since time immemorial. Why, it's 100% certain that you are combing in the right place
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And so I cause an error, especially in gasoline engines, but each time I have to buy a wire for a candle - it's a bit expensive but very helpful!
#12 12233396 24 Apr 2013 08:41

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12233396 24 Apr 2013 08:41

There, do not disconnect the high voltage, only the injector, and if it is SPI, shorten to ground, do not risk damaging the coil ...
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autoas wrote:
There, do not disconnect the high voltage, only the injector, and if it is SPI, shorten to ground, do not risk damaging the coil ...

And in HDI? PPS clearly warns "do not disconnect the injectors while the engine is running because ...."
The spin can be obtained from the V6. Because yes - in some it is counted first one row, then the other. And in others one by one, one by one ...
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Otherwise it would be boring ...
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12235019 24 Apr 2013 17:40

Autoas, do you believe that I am cutting the HV wire to the candle? Did you get tricked too?
Otherwise it would be boring ... !!!!
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12235627 24 Apr 2013 20:13

Well, cut it noooooooo, but I was thinking about disconnecting from the candle .....
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12235892 24 Apr 2013 21:01

And in, for example, 2.0 DCI from which side are we counting?
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12235901 24 Apr 2013 21:03

Knowing the twisted Renault is from the inside out.
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Close, because of the timing
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Motronic wrote:
And in HDI? PPS clearly warns "do not disconnect the injectors while the engine is running because ...."

In fact, there's a 50% chance that nothing will happen. It depends, after all, on where you hit with disconnecting its control. The piezo element may be open or closed at all times . If you found that it was in the "open" position and it is an injection, for example: CRI three, which works at a fuel pressure of 2400bar, you can easily imagine what will be "heard" in that cylinder ...
#21 12236237 24 Apr 2013 22:02

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12236237 24 Apr 2013 22:02

After all, it can be disconnected on the ignition. And we have the cylinder number. But it is so unemotional then.
#22 12236250 24 Apr 2013 22:04

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12236250 24 Apr 2013 22:04

You start to mix. Wankle do it, there will be no problem.
Autodata and shown what and how.
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12236372 24 Apr 2013 22:28

Wakiel is nice, and to work and to drive, just wperd ... amazing.
You can also give bodies with candles in the wankel.
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12236379 24 Apr 2013 22:30

I know, I was changing on the RX8 Mazda
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Przemo9826 wrote:
And in, for example, 2.0 DCI from which side are we counting?

2.0 dci 2007 100% from the valve timing.
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Topic summary

The discussion centers on the importance of the clutch in cylinder counting for Renault vehicles, particularly the Renault Klio. Participants clarify that cylinder counting in Renault models is typically done from the "power take-off" side, specifically from the flywheel. The conversation also touches on cylinder counting methods for other brands, such as PSA, and the implications of different engine types, including gasoline and diesel engines. There are mentions of practical experiences with diagnosing cylinder issues and the importance of understanding the timing and control systems in various engine configurations.
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