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CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?

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  • #1 12391437
    nuters1
    Level 2  
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    I warmly welcome.
    I have a problem.
    I received a non-working inverter welder from my friend for free.
    It was never twisted or cleaned from what I know.
    I started with a thorough cleaning of all the tiles with compressed air and I noticed that the motherboard is blown so I think the diode (if it is a diode) and the interrupted contact in one of these white rectangles "IRE 4000", which is in the upper left corner (marked with red).
    The rest of the tiles is probably ok.
    I do not see anything burnt or overheated.
    If it's a diode (I marked it in yellow) then what should I buy
    I am asking for advice.

    CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?


    CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?

    CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?


    CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?


    CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?
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  • #2 12391573
    Tomasz Gumny
    Level 28  
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    Try to find a diagram and for now show the whole plate on both sides.
    A fired (probably) starting resistor indicates the need to check the switching transistors (red) and diodes in the vicinity (if any) and the output diodes (black).
    CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?

    I miss a transformer supplying control, because I do not see a low voltage power supply on the board. In turn, these high-power resistors (one of which is burnt) now look like elements of a transformer-free power supply.

    It seems to me that it is a welder working in a half-bridge configuration. In this case, high-power resistors can create a voltage divider for the capacitors. Combustion of one of the resistors would indicate damage to one half-bridge branch.
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  • #3 12391934
    nuters1
    Level 2  
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    the power supply is on the second PCB but the two wires are black and red. As for the motherboard, they come from the power supply and it is a welding machine with the TIG function
  • #4 12628676
    stanlejx
    Level 11  
    Posts: 8
    Help: 1
    Rate: 5
    Hello all!!!
    nuters1- what you have marked in yellow is the protection diode (transil)
    And these large oprniki do not know, you need to trace the diagram
    Attachments:
    • cemont_CITIG_1500_DC_rev.00.pdf (2.31 MB) You must be logged in to download this attachment.
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  • #5 17339057
    sehosetus
    Level 2  
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    Thank you so much
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  • #6 17449316
    fixo.fx
    Level 1  
    Posts: 1
    Rate: 2
    Good morning!
    Could anyone help me find the following zener diode? I can not find her anywhere. I did not even find it in the schematic.

    CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster – TIG does not work, blown diode what to check?

    Model: Cemont S 1601

    Please, it will really help me. Thank you very much!
  • #7 19962975
    martinchilemartinez
    Level 1  
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    30v 1W after 2 resistor 3k3 15w
  • #8 20917825
    gcharal18
    Level 1  
    Posts: 1
    I believe is the same diode as the other at negative cable (right corner in your photo)

    Added after 9 [minutes]:

    ZY 30 diode (small one after the two power resistors)

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a non-working CEMONT TH 1600 Bluemaster welding machine, specifically focusing on issues with the motherboard and potential component failures. The user identified a blown motherboard and suspected a diode failure, particularly a protection diode marked in yellow. Responses suggest checking the switching transistors and output diodes, as well as the power supply located on a second PCB. One participant noted that the large resistors might indicate a transformer-free power supply configuration. Additionally, there was a request for assistance in locating a specific zener diode for a related model, Cemont S 1601.
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