VW Golf 4 1.6 SR Engines: Oil Consumption and Potential Manufacturing Defects

Hello, I have a question if it is the norm that golf 4 1.6 SR takes oil. somewhere I heard about that they have a manufacturing defect of rings and so I wonder if it is true? I hope to hear from owners of golf 1.6 SR. my golf takes oil:-( therefore i wonder if this is the norm

More often the problem is valve seals that can be replaced without removing the head.From what I have noticed the problem is not the engine-but how it is exploatated and serviced.Golf 4 year 2000 showroom-114tys mileage from new on synthetic Motul 5w40 from change to change(every 15 thousand) takes about 2-3 mm on the dipstick.Buddy has an Octavia with the same engine-newer with similar mileage that "takes" 2-3 liters of oil per 10 thousand kilometers, but drives on the cheapest oils-because why overpay.

Because everyone drives "only on mobil", and about motul, valvoline, quaker state liqui moly have not even heard. This does not change the fact that this engine is not a marvel of technology, on the contrary.

andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:

This engine is not a marvel of technology, on the contrary.

Of course it has its flaws(fragile throttle)but it does not change the fact that it is a good old eight-valve.

The car is supposed to take oil up to about 10 thousand. however, I have already done about 16 thousand. and after the repair after 7 thousand was an oil change so recommended by the mechanic. I do not know what could be the reason for the fact that the oil continues to disappear. should I go with this to the mechanic who did it?

And how much oil does it burn per 1000 km? You don't know if the cylinders were checked during the overhaul, which may already have thresholds on the surfaces.

If the cavities are not tragic and you know the expected annual mileage and the life of the car, it is worth calculating whether such an overhaul is/was at all cost-effective and how much oil we have for it, e.g. 10W40. You just have to get used to periodically looking under the hood and at the dipstick.

Determine how much of this oil is lost, there is no engine that is perfectly tight, always a little oil can consume, there are certain norms for the engines in question, some consume more - others less or even almost no oil.

elemen_th wrote:

Determine how much of this oil is lost, there is no engine that is perfectly tight, always a little oil can consume, there are certain standards for the engines in question, some use more - others less or even almost none.

The VW standard is a liter(1 liter)per 1000 km - which is an obvious mockery of users !!!
Normal "oil taking "in this engine is about 0.5 liters from change to change(every 10 thousand).

psilos1 wrote:

The VW standard is a liter(1 liter)per 1000 km -which is an obvious mockery of users !!!

My friend once drove an astra 1.6 8V from gdansk to warsaw, over this route the oil ran out on the dipstick from max to min The engine was healthy, normally topped up 1L for a few thousand but driving at full bump unfortunately caused what it caused.
I also know a case that fabia (3-4 years old in gasoline) on the route gdańsk-warszawa-gdańsk while driving drank so much oil that due to its low condition jumped the timing gear, the chain tensioning skate stopped pressing. Before the trip it had half the measure and after returning and pouring it down there was not all of 1.5L left.

Hello, I own a Skoda Octavia 1.6 sr engine designation AKL. The engine was taking me some 1 l / 700km. A week ago I took the engine apart and found that the oil rings are standing. So I purchased a set of rings from Prima, recommended on the forum because of the construction of the oil ring. The condition of the pan and the face was satisfactory. By the way, replacement of seals and timing and head planning. Cost of parts about 500 zł +New oil and 3 afternoons of rummaging. So far everything is fine, but need to do with 2000km ze to see if the overhaul will bring the expected changes.

Three-piece rings with spring or the usual ?

I had a paseratii 1.6 b5 and it did not chew anything.

andrzej20001 wrote:

I had a Paseratii 1.6 b5 and it didn't chew anything.

But there you might have had a previous generation of that engine, on a cast iron block. Those actually did not take.

Yes the year 98 was

When I took apart the engine, the rings were the original ones, that is, oil three-piece, baked completely. Now I put on one-piece rings with a spring under the ring. The compression and scraper ring was ok, but I still replaced them all with new ones.

The engine in a car is not an engine in a tractor .To AKL does not take oil(tossing the rings will not help) you need to replace the pistons because the ring grooves are knocked out And will take oil between the piston And the ring.A set of new rings for new pistons,and new bushings,which have characteristic scratches(after honing) it is by lapping these honing scratches that the ring fits into the bushing.And the engine has no right to take oil.

In 1.6 from VAG the problem is the cast iron block. It is on it that rust forms (as the car stands for a long time especially under a cloud). It is so hard and rough that it wears out the rings and aluminum pistons. Recently I had a golf with 300 thousand and a leon 1M with 180 thousand km to compare. In the leon the pistons were sticking because they were missing 1mm in diameter and more. Lower oil rings could be inserted into the block without squeezing them. The play on the lock about 1.5 mm. Nevertheless, compression even ok only gray smoke behind it. Car used by a friend occasionally. Stands for 1-2 months each then a week of driving and stands again. Golf 4, on the other hand, constantly driven. The difference is that the Golf had a dead head (LPG on the cheap) but the rings still managed . In the 1.6 from Vag when it takes oil and plum smoke behind it is not to delude yourself that rubber bands on the valves will take care of the matter. Rather a complete overhaul sometimes with pistons . Greedy plus is that you can catch fairly reasonably priced parts although even considering the value of the car is still economic madness.

sigwa18 wrote:

In 1.6 from VAG the problem is the cast iron block. It is on it that rust forms (as the car stands for a long time especially under a cloud). It is so hard and rough that it wears out the rings and aluminum pistons. Recently I had a golf with 300 thousand and a leon 1M with 180 thousand km to compare. In the leon the pistons were sticking because they were missing 1mm in diameter and more. Lower oil rings could be inserted into the block without squeezing them. The play on the lock about 1.5 mm. Nevertheless compression even ok just gray smoke behind it.

Are you sure you have seen any engine with your eyes?