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Buying a Plot with 15kV MV Pole: Assessing EMF Harmfulness, Overhead vs. Underground Cables

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  • #1 12661488
    szumacherek
    Level 2  
    Hello
    I am thinking of buying a plot with a house on which there is a medium voltage pole (so I was told) 15kV. I don't know about it and I don't know if it's 15kV or more. I read various opinions on the Internet about the harmfulness of the electromagnetic field generated by this type of poles. All entries are for overhead lines. There is no overhead line across the entire plot on the plot planned for purchase. The pole is the end of the overhead line and from the plot I want to buy the cables are underground. Overview drawing with a photo of the pole below.
    Please, if possible, give your opinion on the harmfulness of this type of construction and information whether it is 15kV?


    Buying a Plot with 15kV MV Pole: Assessing EMF Harmfulness, Overhead vs. Underground Cables Buying a Plot with 15kV MV Pole: Assessing EMF Harmfulness, Overhead vs. Underground Cables

    Thank you in advance for all information
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  • #2 12661650
    ZidaneNS
    Level 12  
    It is definitely an MV line because the HV line is not routed underground. In addition, the construction of the pole limits it to MV. (max 60kV)
  • #3 12661702
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics  
    ZidaneNS wrote:
    It is definitely an MV line because the HV line is not routed underground. In addition, the construction of the pole limits it to MV. (max 60kV)

    It is true that the line in the author's photo is medium voltage, but you are writing nonsense about high voltage cable lines.
    Please:
    Buying a Plot with 15kV MV Pole: Assessing EMF Harmfulness, Overhead vs. Underground Cables Buying a Plot with 15kV MV Pole: Assessing EMF Harmfulness, Overhead vs. Underground Cables
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  • #4 12661968
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    szumacherek wrote:
    Please, if possible, give your opinion on the harmfulness of this type of construction

    No bigger than a TV or computer, not to mention a mobile phone by the ear.
    Only DHMO is more harmful :D
  • #5 12662330
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    Łukasz-O wrote:
    however, you write nonsense about high-voltage cable lines.

    At what depth are such HV lines buried? I ask out of curiosity.
  • #6 12662595
    mar_cik
    Electrician specialist  
    Normally, cables with a voltage higher than 1 kV are buried at a depth of 0.8 m and in agricultural land 0.9 m. MV cables emit negligible fields and for those buried in the ground, it can be practically assumed that they do not emit anything.
    You do not have any threats on the plot.
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  • #7 12662670
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    mar_cik wrote:
    Normally, cables with a voltage higher than 1kV are buried at a depth of 0.8m and on agricultural land 0.9m. MV cables emit negligible fields and for those buried in the ground, it can be practically assumed that they do not emit anything.
    You do not have any threats on the plot.

    What you write is for cables with a voltage of up to 15kV. And I am asking, for example, about such a 60 or 110 kV.
  • #8 12662717
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    voytalo wrote:
    What you write is for cables with a voltage of up to 15kV. And I am asking, for example, about such a 60 or 110 kV.

    There is a 110 kV cable in my area recently. I did not measure the depth of the arrangement, but "by eye" it is more than a meter.
  • #9 12662742
    Reprint
    Level 16  
    0.5m - for cables with Un ≦ 1kV under pavements
    0.7m - for cables with Un ≦ 1kV
    0.8m - for cables with U 1kV < Un ≦ 15kV
    0.9m - for cables with U 1kV < Un ≦ 15kV in agricultural fields
    1m - for cables with Un > 15kV
  • #10 12668151
    szumacherek
    Level 2  
    Thank you all for your replies.
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  • #11 12697238
    szumacherek
    Level 2  
    I have a question for you or the information from the measurements below
    Buying a Plot with 15kV MV Pole: Assessing EMF Harmfulness, Overhead vs. Underground Cables
    are within the standards
    Regulation of the Minister of the Environment of October 30, 2003 on the permissible levels of electromagnetic fields
    Buying a Plot with 15kV MV Pole: Assessing EMF Harmfulness, Overhead vs. Underground Cables

    Regards
  • #12 12697302
    stomat
    Level 38  
    Since 1000 V/m is allowed, and there is 386.4 V/m, does it fit or not? Similarly with the magnetic component, 60 A/m is acceptable and 2.44 A/m is.
  • #13 12698238
    gilus1
    Level 29  
    Think more about the limited expansion possibilities on the plot than about the impact of the line on health and comfort.
  • #14 12698593
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    The advantage of this plot should be its price. Much more competitive in relation to plots without "intruders".
  • #15 12698604
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    On the SEP forum, one user once claimed that it doesn't matter.
    link
  • #16 12698761
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    kkas12 wrote:
    On the SEP forum, one user once claimed that it doesn't matter.

    And finally it came to pass that he only tolerates the station on the border of the plot on pole E with access from the outside. Which he might join. The rest is out.
  • #17 12698775
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Because it's easy to preach something when it doesn't actually concern the "preacher".
  • #18 13322044
    ba.and
    Level 1  
    I need an advice.
    Three medium voltage lines (approx. 15 kV) run in parallel across my plot (recently converted into a construction plot). In addition, diagonally to the road line, occupying about 22 m in width. The neighbor on the other side of the road has the same situation. Is it possible to force the power industry to change the route of the line or replace it with a cable line underground? Unfortunately, years ago I agreed to build this line, not being aware of the consequences of this decision.
  • #19 13322218
    supchem
    Level 21  
    As you agreed, you don't have it unless the ZE concealed something from you and you didn't know that these would be the consequences or they did something not in accordance with the contract. If ZE did everything ok (and it probably is) then you would have to pay for it, and if ZE agrees. And the lesson of this is that before we sign something, let's find out what the consequences will be.
  • #20 13323431
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    ba.and wrote:
    I need an advice.
    Three medium voltage lines (approx. 15 kV) run in parallel across my plot (recently converted into a construction plot). In addition, diagonally to the road line, occupying about 22 m in width. The neighbor on the other side of the road has the same situation. Is it possible to force the power industry to change the route of the line or replace it with a cable line underground? Unfortunately, years ago I agreed to build this line, not being aware of the consequences of this decision .

    Excellent post. Ideally, it should even be stuck on the desktop by all those applying for compensation, leases, etc. and titled it "It could have happened to my grandfather too" ... :D
  • #21 13323751
    elektronikq
    Level 25  
    I would let go of this mate. In my opinion, magnetic and electric fields from such lines are harmful. If they lowered the requirements you provided, 60% of the lines in Poland would have to be dismantled, which in the years of the People's Republic of Poland were erected as ZE wished. As we know, this is not in the interests of PGE and other energy groups. You won't win with them in court, although you'll be right, and if you win, you'll put the case on, and the process will last for several years until your hair turns grey.

    Think about the failure of the MV cable on your plot and imagine that you have a garage or cube in this place.

    I wouldn't take the plot. I advise against.

    Regards.
  • #22 13324007
    Darom
    Electrician specialist  
    I have a question - does your friend have a mobile phone and does he carry it with him? Does your friend like to have long conversations with the handset to his ear?

    Please answer these questions. If the answer is YES. This means that there is a colleague immunized against such a field and can at best be guided by the aesthetics of the plot.

    kiss
    -DAREK-
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the potential health impacts of electromagnetic fields (EMF) from a 15kV medium voltage (MV) pole located on a plot of land. Participants confirm that the pole is indeed part of an MV line, as high voltage (HV) lines are not typically buried underground. Concerns about EMF emissions from buried cables are addressed, with several responses indicating that MV cables emit negligible fields when buried, suggesting minimal health risks. The depth of cable burial is discussed, with standard depths provided for various voltage levels. The conversation also touches on the implications of purchasing the plot, including potential limitations on property expansion and the competitive pricing of plots with such infrastructure. Measurements of EMF levels are referenced, indicating compliance with regulatory standards. Overall, the consensus leans towards the safety of the plot concerning EMF exposure.
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