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Micro Control Inverter Power 600: No 230V Output, Firing 30A Fuses, 12V Battery Connection

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  • #1 12680247
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    Inverter micro power 600 inverter under the battery 12 v. I connected the drill 500 in and as I began to drill it fired 3 fuses 30 A, I bought new and mounted, after turning on the inverter a green diode is burning but there is no 230 V in the socket. What can be the reason in the manual that the device turns off automatically in case of something but probably something has burned out.
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    #2 12681827
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    Transmitting transistors are most often used in this type of devices.
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    #4 12683486
    szafarz
    Level 20  
    Probably the one who will be different from others after checking the meter. Besides, I would not take the 600W inscription seriously, maybe as 600VA, but also cautiously.
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  • #5 12683830
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    Do I have to desolder the transistor to check it with a meter? There are about 23 of them and it would be a bit of a job to check.

    There are two same transistors h.mps A 44 9 CC 60 and as I checked the meter is exactly what I marked in the picture is poorly conducts the current because the meter does not squeak on this transistor just displays 10200
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  • #6 12684861
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    It's probably not this one. One of these 8 large screws bolted to the housing. Give them a symbol, then I will tell you how to check with the meter.
  • #8 12685209
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    Looking at him from the front (from the side of the subtitles), between the second and third legs, you should have an ohmmeter in one direction, and no in the other direction. If you have a diode tester in the meter, then the plus of the meter to the 3, minus to the 2, you should display the value in mV. Replacing the meter's leads should show you 1, or infinity.
  • #10 12685477
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    Then set it to the diode symbol and do as I wrote.
  • #11 12687179
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    The meter is set to 200 OMY and shows 1.8 on the meter. After desoldering one transistor and checking it, it showed me 500 OMY but I switched the voltmeter to 2000 ohms. For me, all transistors are efficient, I am looking for further.
  • #12 12687988
    szafarz
    Level 20  
    The diodes and transistors should be checked at the "diode / buzzer" position in the meter. The 200ohm position may give too little voltage to pass through the PN connector (or NP as you prefer).
  • #13 12688372
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    I have marked the red space for checking the transparencies and in blue where I have to check the transistors and the buzzer will give a signal as will a good transistor and how does the 500 meter display show what it means?
  • #14 12688389
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    Buddy, do you know what you're checking? I wrote you how to check these 8 transistors, a friend of the steward advised you the same. Those transistors are MOSFETs, and the one you now check is bipolar - a different principle of operation, otherwise it works. Since you have a diode tester in the meter, use it to check the transistors.
  • #15 12688416
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    From the beginning, because I measured badly, I start with these transistors


    ftp 18n06
    YJG2
    5138mh
    8 pieces of them is and I measure the meter as they are soldered and I touch the meter on the 2 foot (-) and the 3 leg (+) now good.

    I checked and showed on the 440 meter and does not buzz, 8 pieces of transistors show the same.


    Then there are 4 transistors only bigger but the same with the plate at the top and three legs

    IRFP 450
    Y04K BR

    And two of them I show it on the 450 meter and the other two are the meter buzzes.
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    #16 12688434
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    Yes, with such a connection on the meter you should have some value in mV (forward voltage), as you swap the ends of the meter in places, you should have infinite (no transition). You check without desoldering.
  • #17 12688475
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    everything is guessed as I turn the tip of the meter it shows 1, no transition.

    and now I will check the big one too, the same?
  • #18 12688497
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    IRFP 450 - check these in the same way. h.mps A 44 - foot 1 (-) and foot 2 (+) - shows the value in mV, inversely shows infinity, foot 2 (+) and foot 3 (-) shows the value in mV, inverted infinity.
  • #19 12688517
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    There are 4 IRFP 450 transistors and two as I checked it on the meter showed 450 and the other two as I connected this meter was buzzing, so you already know something?

    HMPS A44 I checked and showed 610


    there is another transistor 780 chn 950 and is identical to ftp 18n06

    shows 1520 and vice versa should be 1 and it shows 480 it is strange if it may have a short circuit?
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    #20 12688550
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    These two IRF 450s will be for exchange. I do not understand the entry "l 780 chn 950", show a picture of this element.
  • #22 12688626
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    It is rather a voltage regulator. Replace those two transistors and it should work.
  • #24 12688785
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    May be. But why pay for shipping? And so on "now" until you will not have, and on Monday you will buy in the store.
  • #25 12690228
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    Let's wait while I sold in and thank you

    Added after 19 [minutes]:
  • #26 12696336
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    The fuses went off and the same transistors went on until the engine's RPM decreased on the 14v battery when charging. Maybe something else went or short circuit doing the battery with the alternator. How should I connect the inverters correctly? I plugged in as the engine was turned on to the battery and then I wanted to plug in the bulb

    I have not repaired the reason just the effects
  • #27 12696595
    voytalo
    Level 25  
    In sequence. Did you replace these transistors and the inverter worked? Do you like? I also forgot you to write that this inverter is Chinese crap and there is nothing to overload it more than half of its rated power. I was supposed to write it after the repair, but I see that I'm late, because I think the transistors went out again.
  • #28 12699134
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    I bought and replaced the transistors, then connected the inverter to the battery and turned it on, the green LED on the inverter turned on and after a while the fuses and the same transistors got fired because I checked with the gauge, the engine's rotation slowed down. There is a short circuit, even if I did not connect the device to the converter, eg 25 W of a bulb.

    I rather see that the repair will be expensive and it is not worth repairing.

    I checked the battery again and it has even 14.55v when charging, so I think the inverter if it was set to max 14v it could burn.
  • #29 12706111
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    Is there anyone who will help me?
    How to turn these transistors into some cheaper ones and fuses (transistors 24 PLN + fuses 5 PLN) 30 amps to check on the battery itself, or the converter will work because recently it worked but went a short circuit after a moment as I turned this converter on the ignited car, the battery was 14.5 v.
  • #30 12736438
    tomek1975r
    Level 10  
    I bought fuses after 50 gr. per piece and again the same after connecting the inverter to the battery, now without starting the engine, on the battery showed 11 volts, as I turned on the inverter itself and knocked out the safety devices 3 pieces, after a while the battery showed normally 12.6 v.

    I still buy new wires thicker, maybe this is the reason that the fuses crashes and check.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a Micro Control Inverter Power 600 that fails to output 230V after connecting a 500W drill, resulting in the blowing of 30A fuses. Users suggest checking the transistors, particularly MOSFETs like IRFP 450 and FTP 18N06, for faults. The inverter's design is criticized for being unreliable, especially under load. Users share methods for testing transistors with a multimeter, emphasizing the importance of checking in diode mode. After replacing faulty transistors, issues persist, indicating potential short circuits or further component failures. The conversation highlights the challenges of repairing low-quality inverters and the need for proper connections and component specifications.
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