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Understanding Underfloor Heating Manifold Functionality: Valve Control, Loop Effects & Beam Usage

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  • #1 12939220
    radca78
    Level 10  
    Hello,

    In the house, we have one manifold on each level, as in the picture below. In the upper part, we can remove the red caps and then we can twist or unscrew the valve. I have a few operational questions:

    1. When one of the upper valves is turned off, the pipe with the red conduit cools down (i.e. we cut off hot water for a given loop). Changing the settings of this valve even for one loop affects the operation of other loops (although I do not change others).

    2. What is this lower beam in the manifold for and how does it work?

    Understanding Underfloor Heating Manifold Functionality: Valve Control, Loop Effects & Beam Usage
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  • #2 12939375
    saskia
    Level 39  
    The manifold beam is simply a hydraulic fitting, just like a T-piece or a cross-piece, only built to facilitate the assembly, connection and adjustment of the floor loop.
    Most often, one is used to regulate flows (throttling) so that all loops have a flow appropriate to their length, regardless of internal resistance.
    On the second one, thermostats are usually placed, closing the flow on a given loop if the return reaches the appropriate temperature set for a given loop, thus allowing for faster heating of the remaining loops, and finally turning off the flow on a given manifold and turning off the boiler.
    I guess you have a condensing boiler, operating at low temperatures, because you do not see the mixer and the floor pump at the manifold.
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  • #3 12939411
    radca78
    Level 10  
    Thanks for the initial description. The house is heated by a heat pump so yes - there are low temperatures here and it works.

    However, I want to know how to control the temperature in individual rooms. If the upper beam controls the flows, and these were calculated by the engineers designing the floorstanders, I assume that they are well done.

    On the lower beam you can see thermostatic valves that I can turn. I don't know what effect it has on the system though. Does such a valve for each loop work the same as the valve on traditional radiators, i.e. when I turn it on, it "gets warmer"? If the thermostat is twisted (max. to the right), does it throttle the flows? I will be grateful for the info.
  • #4 12939587
    saskia
    Level 39  
    If you reduce the temperature on any of the thermostats, the given loop will be closed at slightly lower temperatures of the water flowing through it, and thus the maximum temperature will decrease. for a given room.
    More accurate regulation of the room temperature can be obtained by installing valves with a capillary that receives the room temperature, or similarly operating valves, controlled by a room thermostat.
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  • #5 12939629
    radca78
    Level 10  
    Thanks! To be sure - so if I open the thermostatic valve on a given loop to the maximum, I will get the maximum temperature on it. Is it correct?

    Does the replacement of these valves from manual ones to more automatic ones involve draining water from the entire floor?
  • #6 12939667
    saskia
    Level 39  
    1) Yes, if you open the valve more, you will increase the temperature of the room heated by a given loop.
    2) You don't need to drain the system as you are only replacing the control head, not the valve itself. You probably only have adjusting nuts in place of the thermostatic heads.
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  • #7 12940105
    radca78
    Level 10  
    Thank you for the description. I just unscrewed all the valves on the lower beam, I will observe for two days and in warmer rooms I will start closing.

    Currently the bottom bar is like this .

    Can you provide a link to your solution?
  • #9 14491591
    dement
    Level 13  
    "I'll reheat the chop" so as not to start a new thread.

    For example, in the cooling system in a car it is clear, the thermostat opens at 90C and closes when the temperature drops.
    I did not notice that the manufacturer of thermostats for manifolds gave a certain range of their operation.
    I have this contraption on my table and I did a little experiment.
    I heated the water to 50C to 60C upwards, until finally I poured boiling water and nothing. They don't even budge.
    I tried 2 more with no success.
    I didn't want to try any more.
    Has anyone ever tested it?
    Or maybe the thermostatic head (purchased separately) is responsible for opening and closing the loop, because these plastics can only close the circuit in the loop. Alternatively, when twisting and leaving a gap, reduce the flow :)
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
  • #10 14491707
    saskia
    Level 39  
    These small nuts on the manifold are nothing more than knobs for manual closing-opening and adjustment. When assembling the heads, these nuts are removed and the thermostatic heads are screwed in their place.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the functionality of underfloor heating manifolds, specifically addressing the operation of upper and lower valves, and the impact of these settings on room temperatures. Users inquire about the effects of closing valves on individual loops, the purpose of the lower beam, and the operation of thermostatic valves. It is clarified that adjusting the thermostatic valves can control room temperatures by regulating flow, and that replacing manual valves with automatic ones does not require draining the system. Additionally, the importance of proper flow regulation for efficient heating is emphasized, along with links to actuator solutions for enhanced control.
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