Reviewing Home Security Design: Satel Integra 64 ETHM-1 with Motion, Smoke, Fire Detectors

Hello, respectable group of experts in alarm systems.

I designed such a system to secure the house for my own use, so it is my first and, I think, the only installation ;)

In addition to the motion, smoke and fire detectors, there are reed switches to protect the shutters.
The idea is that if the shutter in one of the three zones is breached, the alarm system will react by turning on the external lamp without activating the siren.

Only signaling from the motion detector will trigger the external siren.

I am asking for any comments, if I made any mistakes when connecting components, and if I managed to avoid it by some miracle, I would be happy to listen to the advice of more experienced colleagues on this topic.




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The low-current outputs are not positive, but negative. Your relays won't work.
Besides ... Why such a colorful packing on one sheet? If you want to have a diagram for yourself, break this drawing into several sheets:
- power supply
- inputs
- low-current outputs
- high-current outputs
- expanders
- communication modules
It will be much clearer.

By the way, an installation of this size is done by 99% of installers "out of the head", only writing down information about where it is connected (a sheet in the control panel or a description on the inside of the door).

Yenyyy ...

1. An input expander to monitor the siren tamper is a BIG exaggeration.
You can connect this tamper switch of the siren to the tamper input of the first expander.

2. Use the keypad inputs.

3. You have foreseen the entrance door reed switch - it is even necessary to implement some functions, e.g. bypassing internal zones after arming without exit.

4. As a home control panel, VERSA (three arming modes) is better.

5. As many as three lamps in different modes will you light?

6. If you pull cables from PIR to the reed switch, COM can be one wire.

7. And these relays ... to the plus and minus to the output, as the previous speaker wrote.

POZDRAV

try and you will be people

Despite the coloring, the diagram is not so legible (it is better to draw the connection of one detector, and the other ones of the same type should be connected in the same way). But if only this way suits you and for your own needs, it's ok.

Comments from colleagues above plus ..

- tamper in the second expander (connect to ground or connect something)
- AWZ510 relays a bit weak, better to give AWZ514 (16A / 250V) or RM85 with a DIN rail socket
- I understand that the second expander is spare, because if only for signal tampering, it is completely unnecessary

However, when it comes to the suggestion that the Versa is a better home, the friend probably meant small simple systems without any frills. If you are a reptilian, DIY enthusiast, etc., then Integra is for you.

Tamper ETHM- a hangs in the air.

Ladies and Gentlemen!
First of all, thanks for the answers and valuable comments.


@tehaceole
-As I mentioned before, this is my first installation, so a diagram of such quality and creating it was guided by the colors of the cabling, so that it would be easier for me to assemble the whole, guided by the colors of the terminals.
The diagram is created in Corel on sheet A2, so the printout will take 4 A4 sheets to be glued together, so it will not be that small again.
I fully agree that it can be done from the head or from notes, but I am used to thinking about posterity and for what will open the box one day when something breaks, so that the man does not curse what he did and leave a description.

- I changed the polarity of the power supply on the relay


@micholec
ad1 - a good remark by a colleague and the tamper of the siren goes to the tamper of the first expander, thanks to which one zone is freed

ad2 - inputs on the keypad (Z1, Z2) - another bonus and two forward inputs
I rummaged in DloadX and I can see that you can attach them, they get numbers 49 and 50 respectively.

ad3 - yes, the front door is under I.P5. Nevertheless, I mainly envisage activating the alarm using the keyfob with the INT-RX S module.

ad5 - yes, each of the three lamps is on a separate wall. If the shutter zones on a given wall are violated, the lamp from that wall is to be lit. Sometimes it happens that the shutters are opened by a very strong wind, so I do not want to turn on the siren for this occasion, but use the light as a deterrent at this stage. Of course - notification via e-mail to the SMS gateway.

ad6 - no fact, but what to do with this single cable in a six-core YTDY 6x05?


As my colleague @ dariusz.bembenek rightly guessed, the CA 64 E-2 expander is intended for expansion, as additional TSD-1 detectors will be added, as well as the sensoring is at the minimally necessary level so far.

- sabotage in the second expander corrected

- a fact, I like to DIY and I chose this system model because of the ability to control the control panel via the Internet and, in addition to the monitoring function, you can control the devices from a distance, which I really like
The control panel is already assembled and fired in the box at "idle".


@ alster1 - I improved the ETHM-1 tamper


Once again, I would like to thank everyone for having thoroughly reviewed the layout and provided advice.
Below is a revised layout - so far without the use of Z1 and Z2, this will take some time.

This is sending e-mails and then an SMS gateway, you don't mean ETHM-1? Because this module does not send e-mails.

Remember about these relays - the AWZ510 you proposed are not suitable. Even if it works for you now, it doesn't mean it will work in 3 months or in a year.

dariusz.bembenek wrote:

This is sending e-mails and then an SMS gateway, you don't mean ETHM-1? Because this module does not send e-mails.

And that's a pain! Only now I have noticed that this property has ETHM-2.
Then you will have to think how to do it differently.
The first thought is to use the existing BCS 0804-LE-A camera recorder, because it seems that there you can send an alert via e-mail after activating the input.

Yes, just do not be stupid and do not exchange for ETHM-2 because it is something completely different and does not offer what ETHM-1 does.

I asked a question on the Satel helpdesk and here's a quick answer.

Question:
The functionality of sending event notifications via e-mail is implemented in the ETHM-2 module.
There is no such functionality in the ETHM-1 module.
Does SATEL plan to add this functionality to the ETHM-1 software development line?

Answer:

The memory of the ETHM-1 module does not allow for adding such functionality.
In the near future, a new version of the Ethernet module will appear, which in addition to the ETHM-1 functionality will have, among others, e-mail notification.

In the near future, read that it is 2 years old, because that's how it is with them

piotr_be wrote:

I asked a question on the Satel helpdesk and here's a quick answer.

Question:
The functionality of sending event notifications via e-mail is implemented in the ETHM-2 module.
There is no such functionality in the ETHM-1 module.
Does SATEL plan to add this functionality to the ETHM-1 software development line?

Answer:

The memory of the ETHM-1 module does not allow for adding such functionality.
In the near future, a new version of the Ethernet module will appear, which in addition to the ETHM-1 functionality will have, among others, e-mail notification.

Hello

It is now on the finish. I guess it is a module from the CSP-ETH light bulb. Probably it will be such GuardX-NET and e-mail maybe even Whats App.

greet

Welcome back.
This time I have a question about the control panel configuration, with regard to arming and disarming the control panel with the keyfob controlling the INT-RX module.
For this purpose, I created two virtual zones on physically unused numbers 63 and 64, assigning them the functions 80-arm and 81-disarm, respectively.
Then I assigned input 64 to the 1st buttons and input 63 to the 2nd, respectively.
Will this configuration properly arm and deactivate the control panel when pressing buttons assigned to the above functions?

Generally, it is not recommended to use the disarm function on the remote control, it is better to use the type 64 bypassing,
You should also change the name of the virtual to a more readable, e.g., remote control or something similar,
Set the line type to NO
It should spin, test

piotr_be wrote:

For this purpose, I created two virtual zones on physically unused numbers 63 and 64, assigning them the functions 80-arm and 81-disarm, respectively.

If it is already on the remote control, it is better 82 On / Off. standby on one remote control channel and one control panel input. In the options, you switch to violation of the input and subsequent pulses activate and deactivate the system. There is an option of signaling on the siren.
I don't really understand the ideas with these shutters. Every time before arming the alarm you will close the shutters all over the house? In my opinion, you should secure the windows, preferably with reed sensors + vibration, eg VD1.
As for the control of the light, what does it make during the day? Nothing will be seen. In such situations, I set a short pre-alarm on the siren for 1-2 seconds and, for example, an SMS. The intruder will know immediately that the system is working "and you will not hesitate to use it".

Thanks for the answers.

@darzec - I will correct the settings and test.

@Andrzej_;) lukaszewicz - the remote control will be used in emergency for a neighbor who operates with two-state logic - turn on / off, so I have to match the remote control to the person. There is a story with shutters that when the wind is very strong, one may open. Out of respect for my neighbors, I prefer not to expose them to unnecessary stress.
When it comes to securing the house, I'm going to sound the alarm only when I'm no longer there, and then the shutters are always closed.
Anyway, I believe that a possible burglary in 99.9% is not accidental, and in most cases occurs after tracking the object from ... gossiping neighbors, which may reach the wrong ears. So the mere fact of having an alarm installed, in my opinion, acts as a deterrent, because the same neighbor will tell about it.
When it comes to lighting the lights, they are quite strong sodium lamps, so they will work well at night, because there are cameras. E-mails about possible violation of zones will be sent by the BCS recorder controlled by the control unit, because unfortunately the ETHM-1 does not support e-mail notifications.

I play with the control unit in my spare time, I have it laid out for tests on the table in "laboratory" conditions, because the installation of cabling and sensors is also going at a similar pace.
Nevertheless, I lost a lot of time, because at some point the communication between the computer and the control panel via ETHM-1 began to lengthen very much.
The data took a long time to read and communication broke off.
Az finally noticed that the light in DloadX, located in the upper right corner, signaling communication, turns from green to red.
After hovering the mouse over the lamp, the following message was displayed - The control panel reports communication suspended for the time of calling.
I wentogle this message, unfortunately nothing. There was no way out, I asked the Satellite Technical Department.
In the meantime, I rummaged the "guts" looking for the cause, restart from the pins and in horror - now the TCP / IP lamp is green but dead, no movement and communication hangs completely.

I got a quick reply from Satellite that:

Quote:

The "control panel reports suspension while monitoring" message appears while monitoring or sending a notification, when the control panel cuts off the signal from one of the RS-232 "legs".
The same situation may take place when there is a break in the cable connecting the rs-232 control panel and the ETHM-1 module. Please check and correct this connection.

I checked - in fact, one of the legs of the RS-232 plug of the cable I made from what was delivered with the ETHM-1 card slipped out of the plastic, not very good quality housing.
Everything is alive and DloadX is already rushing over the ETHM-1 at a normal pace.

Hello.
It went
First, I started with identifying the keyfob, after installing the INT-RX module.
I assigned virtual inputs 63 and 64 to the remote control buttons.

I set the inputs to NO (as advised by @darzec), one activates the other disarms the system

In the structure, I made the Alarm zone, to which I connected the other zones as dependent "OR" (I think in this case it does not matter whether the "OR" or "AND" qualifier will be used)

and it works beautifully - the remote control activates and disarms the system.
Nevertheless, it irritates me that the LED of the INT-RX module is flashing furiously all the time. Is the only remedy to stick it on so that it is not visible? Because I plan to give this module at the door next to the manipulator due to the range. Does anyone know what the range and effectiveness of the pilot are? Maybe then I could put this module further, at the control panel.

The next question is structure.
I have divided the functional rooms with sensors into zones.
Nevertheless, I have seen that some people practice creating zones with less detail, e.g. division only into the ground floor, 1st floor, 2nd floor.
Share your experience, how detailed do you practice zoning?

piotr_be wrote:

In the structure, I made the Alarm zone, to which I connected the other zones as dependent "OR"

I do not understand why such a procedure is. If you want to control several partitions at the same time, create "On / off groups" - entry window.

piotr_be wrote:

Nevertheless, it irritates me that the LED of the INT-RX module is flashing furiously all the time

It has to flash, and if it bothers you, you gave the way yourself.

piotr_be wrote:

Does anyone know what the range and effectiveness of the pilot are?

The manufacturer states it, and the reality on each object is different. In my experience, it works.

piotr_be wrote:

I have divided the functional rooms with sensors into zones.

Just be careful that this is not an excess of form over content. If it has a specific justification, then ok. If it's such a gag, then you have to answer the question for yourself whether you and most importantly - other users will be able to use it efficiently?

Hello @ dariusz.bembenek, thank you for the answer.

Quote:

I do not understand why such a procedure is. If you want to control several partitions at the same time, create "On / off groups" - entry window.

In fact, I have not noticed that at inputs 63 and 64 in the "Time for in" column it is possible to set a group number.
Now it looks like this:



I removed the Alarm zone and put the remote control inputs in the room where the INT-RX remote control module will be physically located.
Works just as well

Hello - I was looking at the connection diagram of the communication module, and as I will face this challenge in a few days - I have a question: should there be a resistor in this module between the TMP and COM connectors?

effendi_pl wrote:

shouldn't there be a resistor ??

Where did this idea come from?

This is an input for an anti-tampering contact. Input works as NC. If it is not used, short the TMP input to ground (COM).

Thanks for the info - another packet of knowledge assimilated