ELM 327 BT Interface with TORQUE OBD: Compatibility with VCDS, VAG-COM, VCDSlite & Polish VAG

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I bought the ELM 327 BT interface in order to play basically with the TORQUE OBD program for Android.
As the seller provides the program's remarkable possibilities, I decided to force him to work with VCDS and VAG-com.
Both attempts failed.

And I do it like this:
Pairs the ELM with the laptop via BT.
Link via serial port - Connected.
I change the port to com1 or com2.
I fire up the program, set the port and do a test.
Result ?
Once the interface is found, but there is a problem with the connection, after changing the port parameters (from the hints from the thematic forums) the situation does not change. Sometimes it crashes that the face is not there at all.

I tried on VAG-COM, VCDSlite, Polish VAG. Neither replied.

The application included in the set (some free) connects and reads error codes after EOBD (i.e. as much as my app from the phone).

Tell me is this ELM so limited in function ??

The discussed patient for VW Passat 1.9tdi AVF 2002.

For Passat better buy VAS5054A + VAS PC. You can get it on AliExpress for a paltry $ 50.
ELM 327 is limited - especially by software.

I thought so, but preferred to ask for peace of mind
Sometimes I like to play with my car, code etc but I feel sorry for a bit on VCDS :)

And as for your proposal, can you get it in Polish distribution?
I have never bought from abroad ...

nici wrote:

And as for your proposal, can you get it in Polish distribution?

On the known auction site, but the price ...

nici wrote:

And as for your proposal, can you get it in Polish distribution?

Yes, only on Allegro the same costs PLN 500-600.
Of course, remember that this should be the UDS interface model.

And so far I have been using a regular blue cable, cost PLN 30, VAG COM 3.11 program. It does coding, it does adaptation, it does value blocks, too, so I don't see the need to push for hundreds of zlotys for my own use ... Now I scored a VCDS in good money

mickpr wrote:

nici wrote:

And as for your proposal, can you get it in Polish distribution?

Yes, only on Allegro the same costs PLN 500-600.
Of course, remember that this should be the UDS interface model.

I don't think I need UDS in my streak (2002), but who knows in the future.

600 PLN, I found .. A bit of a lot.

Added after 1 [hours] 6 [minutes]:

How about VAG COMMANDER ??
Any experiences, opinions?

Just right for the meter, but for diagnostics it does not make sense.

And reading the map from EDC15 ???

Commander? Nooo .... Plus Galletto 1260 or MPPS. With the commander you can, for example, turn off immo in EDC15 or read the eeprom, nothing more.

I am not a mechanic, but an electronics (and not a car one).
Once a friend bought such an interface in PLN 30-40 games.
Then he connected the Skoda Fabia Diesel 1.9 year 2001 ... and then he had to buy a new driver - probably from the pillow.
Also with inventions like VAG-COM etc ... and playing with them - I recommend caution.

The cheapest VAG for PLN 35 can damage the cushions as well as the original VCDS, there is even a message about it when connecting. Another thing was the driver with the 605 A terminal, which fell every time the diagnostics were connected.

Perhaps that was it, but the VAS5051B could be connected without any problems.
I suspect (but I did not check - because why) that the VAS5054 would be similar (i.e. without problems).
Not that I praise these devices (I don't sell them).

The majority of Skoda / VW / Audi / Seat dealers, in view of the cosmic price of the new VAS (but still lower than the price of the VAS5051B), buy such devices.
For this an ordinary notebook and voila .. For some things, of course, an Intranet is necessary (lest the first better workshop of Mr. Stas will do the same as ASO).
The only problem for the Dealership is the need to buy original measurement modules ... but they all run on USB.
Besides - in the workshop of Mr. Staś, no one is into it, but only takes an ordinary meter in hand.

polonez15 wrote:

The cheapest VAG for PLN 35 can damage the cushions as well as the original VCDS

What's with these pillows ??

nici wrote:

What's with these pillows ??

A design error, the only one I know in Skoda, year 2000-2001.
This is a real-life situation - that's why I wrote about it.
I do not know if there are any other situations when it is enough to ONLY connect to the controller to damage it.
You definitely shouldn't do NOTHING.

http://forum.vw-passat.pl/archive/index.php/t-59577.html

polonez15 wrote:

Commander? Nooo .... Plus Galletto 1260 or MPPS. With the commander you can, for example, turn off immo in EDC15 or read the eeprom, nothing more.

My customer, a mechanic, purchased such a facebook from Allegro. He paid about PLN 80.
I tried to connect to my ECU - effect? Suspending a program ...

polonez15 wrote:

The cheapest VAG for PLN 35 can damage the cushions as well as the original VCDS, there is even a message about it when connecting. Another thing was the driver with the 605 A terminal, which fell every time the diagnostics were connected.

I repair these drivers after playing with VAG-COM where error 65535 appears.
The original VCDS does not damage this driver only such heads ... like VAG-COM, VWTool etc.
After the repair, I always connect the controller on the table and diagnose it with VCDS.
You have the connection message in VAG-COM.
If VCDS is also supposed to damage it, why doesn't this message appear there anymore?

grala1 wrote:

polonez15 wrote:

The cheapest VAG for PLN 35 can damage the cushions as well as the original VCDS, there is even a message about it when connecting. Another thing was the driver with the 605 A terminal, which fell every time the diagnostics were connected.

I repair these drivers after playing with VAG-COM where error 65535 appears.
The original VCDS does not damage this driver only such heads ... like VAG-COM, VWTool etc.
After the repair, I always connect the controller on the table and diagnose it with VCDS.
You have the connection message in VAG-COM.
If VCDS is also supposed to damage it, why doesn't this message appear there anymore?

VAS causes this problem too?

The problem was caused by the improper closing of the diagnostic session and it concerned old versions of VAG-COM, VWTool and Polish VAG. The factory tester (VAS) did not damage the controller. VCDS has a Polish distributor who successfully eliminated HEX-USB + CAN (and OP-COM) clones from Allegro (only with Allegro) ...
VCDS-Lite works with an ordinary ISO-KKL / VAG-COM cable (without a processor), but with ELM327 it will not work due to the lack of RAW mode in the same. Full VCDS requires a dedicated HEX interface, which is also the hardware key to the program.

In summary, ELM is not suitable for the diagnosis of VAG.

To sum up, ELM327 can damage something in cars after 2010?

TomekxD wrote:

To sum up, ELM327 can damage something in cars after 2010?

Neither after nor before.

Because it won't connect

Even to read common parameters?

Even. He can establish communication and the errors are there and he shows that there are no errors.

Is it possible to read measuring blocks by ELM327 at all? I specifically care about boost pressure, block 011 in TDI PD.

I tried the Torque application for android but it lacks the manifold pressure reading, it hangs on one value. In a few other free android apps the same, either no pressure reading or a constant wrong value.

The boost pressure in this TDI program torque shows well, it showed me the Passat B5 FL AVF