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Connection of household appliances in the kitchen (oven, microwave, fridge)

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  • Helpful post
    #31 13849354
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    Don't mess with your neighbor and don't listen to his hopeless advice, just call an electrician. What you want to do is crying out to heaven for vengeance.
    Each circuit is to have a separate neutral and protective conductor.
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  • #32 13849422
    pol102
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    And to understand why the neighbor's intention is stupidity, I suggest reading this:
    http://www.sep.gliwice.pl/pliki/Dobor%20pirectow.pdf

    I suggest in full, and if it's a waste of time, then at least from table 7 downwards.

    Kirchoff's Law is also worth recalling.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    http://www.elektrotechnika.po.opole.pl/cwiczenia/uklady_3f/uklady_3f.html -> Punkt (21)
    Although I recommend reading from top to bottom here as well. Hope the conclusions are relevant.
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  • #33 13849481
    Barsa8
    Level 14  
    I had a bad word, there should be "a neighbor in my apartment in my apartment" ...


    Please answer the issues that interest me ;)
    Quote:
    Furrow ... and you can't just let the cable go behind the furniture? 2.5 mm2 cable is enough, yes? Because I was thinking about 4 mm2.

    As for the refrigerator and turning on the rest of the devices "at once", nothing will happen to the refrigerator and the fuse will "blow"?


    I just go to the rented apartment with my wife on two fuses, B16 and B10, and we have an electric cooker, fridge, kettle, coffee machine and nothing happens ... so probably in the new apartment, the new installation will be ok, only a microwave and hood, but will go away from the perimeter of the oven.
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    #34 13849515
    TWK
    Electrician specialist
    Barsa8 wrote:
    connect induction to 1 phase, but it's probably already "overconfigured"?
    What kind of protection does an induction cooker require with a 1f power supply? What must the cable cross-section be then?

    pol102 wrote:
    what will happen to the refrigerator if you turn on the microwave, electric kettle and the hood? ...
    I don't know a person who has an induction cooker and an electric kettle. In an induction cooker, water boils faster than in an electric kettle.
  • #35 13849519
    Barsa8
    Level 14  
    TWK, thanks for the hint ... this will be my first induction hob and I didn't even think to let go of the electric kettle; /

    but yes to everything that would happen? :idea:
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  • #36 13849579
    serwisor
    Level 29  
    Barsa8 wrote:
    My neighbor, I have a problem

    Let the electrician do the trick, not the neighbor,
    What is this induction? how many kW?
    If it is to be in one phase, it should be done in such a way that you do not have to make the entire kitchen from scratch.
  • #37 13849978
    Barsa8
    Level 14  
    serwisor wrote:
    Barsa8 wrote:
    My neighbor, I have a problem

    Let the electrician do the trick, not the neighbor,
    What is this induction? how many kW?
    If it is to be in one phase, it should be done in such a way that you do not have to make the entire kitchen from scratch.


    I corrected my earlier statement ...
  • #38 13850390
    serwisor
    Level 29  
    I do not understand, you have money to make a kitchen for yourself, buy appliances - how much will go with 10k?
    and you don't have PLN 400-500 for a CLEAN installation?

    In a moment it will turn out that not even a carpenter, but Mr. Henio from the shop, will be doing it.

    If you burn the apartment and the insurer will ask why the installation was done in such a way, what will you answer? That they advised me on the forum.

    You demand applause for your idea, which makes no sense since you are carrying out a complete renovation.
  • #39 13876587
    Barsa8
    Level 14  
    There was an electrician ... or rather a "combinator", because he wanted to connect me a refrigerator, oven and microwave for one phase of power, and also make 3 sockets ...

    It's really nice that I put this topic on the forum. You do not have to look for the next "specialist", but I will not let go and I have to be done as I want, and as I was advised here, i.e. the induction and oven under force (the only issue is that you will probably have to lead the cable from the can during induction to the oven and directly plug in, because there is average space for another can). The dishwasher remains on its perimeter, and the refrigerator, microwave, cooker hood and coffee machine go under the general perimeter.
  • #40 13916621
    FasterThanX
    Level 13  
    Bodzio_elektryk wrote:
    Your problem is slowly becoming commonplace for many people. Have you bought a flat, walls are painted with plaster, and electrical installations? And now the walls are smoothed. Cannot be hammered. It's hard to help us from a distance. Follow my first instruction. I will add that two differences are not enough.

    How much should be the difference?
    In which circuits should they be used?

    3.1.13. It is forbidden to publish entries that violate the spelling rules of the Polish language, careless and incomprehensible.
    [retrofood]

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the electrical setup for kitchen appliances in a new apartment, specifically addressing the connection of a refrigerator, oven, microwave, and dishwasher. The original plan by the developer was altered, leading to concerns about the adequacy of the electrical circuits. Participants emphasize the importance of having separate circuits for high-power devices like the oven and microwave, while suggesting that the refrigerator and dishwasher can share a circuit. The necessity of consulting a qualified electrician is highlighted, especially given the complexities of the existing wiring and the need for compliance with safety standards. The conversation also touches on the potential risks of overloading circuits and the importance of proper installation to avoid future issues.
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