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[Solved] Circuit Separation: Induction Hob & Oven on 3F (5x4mm²), RCD & 16A Breakers, Dishwasher & Fridge

Tomotron 16821 13
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  • #1 17294302
    Tomotron
    Level 13  
    Hello,

    New electrical installation, an electrician came up with the idea that there would be a dishwasher, refrigerator, oven and hood on one circuit.

    Walls, floors finished, it is not possible to run an additional circuit for e.g. an oven

    Will it be a good idea to separate the 3F circuit (5x4mm2) which is intended for connecting the induction hob (connected to 2F) Use the free phase to connect the oven.

    Currently induction hob connected by RCD and 16A three-pole overcurrent circuit breaker.
    I plan to leave the RCD due to the oven and power the board through a 16A double pole circuit breaker and the oven single pole 16A
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  • #2 17294421
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #3 17294452
    Tomotron
    Level 13  
    Kraniec_Internetów wrote:

    The oven MUST be on a separate circuit. To be more precise, the standard states that stationary devices with a power of 2.kW or more must be powered from separate circuits.


    Thanks for the answer, is there any other sensible solution in this situation?
    Not to mention the fact that he won't give up the oven, and the demolition of half the apartment is also out of the question.
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  • #4 17294716
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    Very often I meet in new blocks with energy supply to the hob and oven sets 1 with a 5 X4 cable.
  • #5 17294743
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #6 17294754
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    Tomotron wrote:
    Thanks for the reply, is there any other sensible solution in this situation?
    Not to mention the fact that he won't give up the oven, and the demolition of half the apartment is also out of the question.


    In fact, you're missing at least 3 circuits in the kitchen.
    Dishwasher, oven, utility sockets and maybe even a microwave oven.
    Or maybe half-measures again this and that with that and somehow it will be ...
  • #7 17294853
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    And who receives the installations in blocks and checks the correctness of the execution and design?
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  • #8 17294860
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #9 17294861
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    And the peak of intelligence is 1 common differential for the whole apartment.
  • #10 17294865
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #11 17294874
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    And forces the customer to sit in the dark until the electrician comes.
  • #12 17294972
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #13 17295394
    Tomotron
    Level 13  
    Thanks everyone for your reply,

    In this case, at least two separate circuits are missing, for the dishwasher and for the oven.

    To sum up, there are three circuits in the kitchen, for an induction hob, sockets on the floor, most likely for the fridge, dishwasher and the unfortunate oven, in addition, it goes to the hood. The third circuit is the sockets at the kitchen counter to which it will be connected, at most a mixer, blender - microwave is not provided.

    Having no other choice, willy-nilly, I have to stick with the original solution.

    Regards
  • #14 17300510
    Tomotron
    Level 13  
    In this situation, Hager accessories, MBN216E overcurrent circuit breaker for induction, were inserted into the MBN116E oven

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the electrical installation of a kitchen where an electrician proposed connecting a dishwasher, refrigerator, oven, and hood on a single circuit. The user is concerned about the adequacy of this setup, particularly regarding the induction hob, which is connected to a 3-phase circuit (5x4mm²) with an RCD and 16A breakers. Responses emphasize that the oven must be on a separate circuit due to safety standards, which require stationary devices with a power of 2 kW or more to have individual circuits. Suggestions include the necessity of at least three circuits in the kitchen: one for the induction hob, one for the oven, and another for the dishwasher. The user ultimately acknowledges the constraints of their installation and plans to proceed with the original solution while noting the need for proper circuit separation.
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