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Goat Stove Installation in Gazebo: Smoke Leakage and Chimney Inlet Queries

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  • #1 14039893
    waroom1
    Level 9  
    Hello visitors
    Please help.

    Firstly.
    I ordered a goat stove in the gazebo on the plot. Gazebo - brick, high basement, first floor, flat roof, high brick chimney.
    I installed the goat on the first floor and connected it to the chimney. There was a string. The flame of the lighter sucked up the chimney. Most of the smoke goes up the chimney, but you can see wisps of smoke coming out into the room. After some time, the room is gray. As if not all the smoke was sucked into the chimney. What could be causing this? Can I improve something? Improve?

    The second thing.
    The chimney shaft extends from the basement ceiling to the chimney on the roof. The inlet in the basement is not plugged, but there is no smell of smoke in the basement. From below you can see all the smoke going up the chimney. Question: should such an inlet be plugged? I tried to check the smoke symptom on the first floor with the blind and open inlet, but it gave no results.

    Thank you in advance for your help.

    Regards
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  • #2 14039971
    biniu292
    Level 18  
    It should be blinded after all, because it pulls the so-called. "left air"
    Open a window, door or other opening to the outside and see what happens, there is a possibility that there is not enough air, no supply ventilation ...
  • #3 14039983
    waroom1
    Level 9  
    Thank you for the quick reply.
    Of course, on advice, I will plug the hole permanently.
    Opening a window or some other form of fresh air did not change anything. I tested after reading other posts.
    I was thinking about additionally increasing the thrust power, maybe it is too weak after all and it doesn't pull everything in. Or is it about fuel? For now, I used briquettes and dry wood.
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  • #4 14039987
    brofran
    Level 41  
    waroom1 wrote:
    Question: should such an inlet be plugged?

    Necessarily ! Smoking can be caused by too low height of the chimney and lack of fresh air supply to the room with the goat.
  • #5 14040148
    biniu292
    Level 18  
    It's probably best if you call a chimney sweep, check the "cug" and tell you what's wrong, because generally there is no other option than a too short or dirty chimney, or too little air.
    Are there any tall buildings next door?
  • #6 14040478
    gaz4
    Level 34  
    Write how exactly the ventilation in this house looks like - where the air is supplied and removed. In what rooms are the grilles and whether the ventilation has an adequate draft.
  • #7 14042641
    waroom1
    Level 9  
    The first floor of the house consists of two rooms of approximately 12.5 m2. There are ventilation grilles in both rooms.

    There are leaks in every window and door, but that's probably not what you asked about gaz4.
    biniu292 the buildings next door are the same or the same height as my house. In the past, it was not allowed to build in this area otherwise. The cottage is not in some valley or on a hill. The terrain is even.

    From the goat to the chimney outlet is about 2.7 m, maybe it's not enough? Can it be extended further? I was thinking about the extension solution in the form of a steel pipe inserted into the chimney. I know that due to the temperature difference, soot will settle inside, but will it settle enough to become dangerous if it will be smoked 3-4 days a week only during the day?

    I am surprised by the commitment to the quantity and quality of responses to my problem. Thank you
  • #8 14044273
    gaz4
    Level 34  
    As I understand it, the goat is placed in either of these two 12.5 m2 rooms? Because so far I see several possible causes, but first I will provide a link to a professional page where errors in the construction of chimneys are described. We advise anonymously, and you know what the road to hell is. Here you have a page where the author of the texts provides accurate personal data, i.e. he is responsible for what he wrote:

    http://www.kominiarzjacek.pl/wentytacja.html

    Your mistakes, in my opinion, are: the hole at the bottom, the short flue between the goat and the outlet, and the air column in the chimney extending to the basement. I can see one more possible problem elsewhere, but I'll leave it on hold for now. Adding a metal pipe to the chimney is a mistake - on the above-mentioned website there is a photo where this solution was criticized. In my opinion, you should start with the most obvious things, i.e. plugging the hole in the basement and separating the air column somewhere at the level of the first floor. It is best to carve an inspection hole near the floor and brick up its bottom so that the column of cold air ends at the floor level. Instead of a piece of pipe on the chimney, it is best to put the so-called "firefighter" that will improve the draft. And verify everything I wrote, because it is true that I built chimneys, but I am not a chimney sweep ;)
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  • #9 14060137
    waroom1
    Level 9  
    Thank you all for your help. Problem solved.
    As it turned out.
    Well, the air intake in the basement weakened the draft. After cutting off the left air supply, nothing smoked into the air anymore. It also turned out that both vents in the rooms were clogged by abandoned insect nests.
    Thank you very much.
  • #10 14101819
    snoze
    Level 12  
    Hello, I'm going to jump on the topic. I have a similar situation.
    How the author managed to solve the problem, unfortunately not for me. The goat stove is connected to the chimney with a pipe 50 cm long, 110 mm in diameter, chimney 145 mm in diameter, 6.30 m long, outlet above the roof, made of stoneware pipe. The stove is located in a farm building with an area of 15m2. The fire burns very lazily in it, the smoke getting out. Opening a door or window doesn't help. Could it matter that the chimney was recently installed, or the problem lies elsewhere?
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  • #11 14101947
    brofran
    Level 41  
    snoze wrote:
    The stove is connected to the chimney with a pipe 50 cm long

    This may be the cause. Is the pipe horizontal? Give it at an angle, or shorten it if possible. Horizontally arranged pipes greatly weaken the draft.
  • #12 14104393
    gaz4
    Level 34  
    As above, but it is also worth doing a chimney draft test by burning a piece of newspaper in it. If the burnt paper does not try to fly up, the cause is in the chimney.
  • #13 14371252
    snoze
    Level 12  
    Problem solved, simple cause cold chimney. After a proper burnout with a tree in the evisceration, the stove burns.
  • #14 14372781
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    If you have such a chimney tendency, avoid wet fuel because you can get unpleasant eruptions on the chimney - it smells terribly. Burn with full fire, don't suffocate it...
  • #15 14384464
    gaz4
    Level 34  
    snoze wrote:
    Problem solved, simple cause cold chimney. After a proper burnout with a tree in the evisceration, the stove burns.


    This may indicate that the chimney is catching "left air" which cools it down. Does the cleanout have tight doors? Because it's the first place worth checking out.
  • #16 14386871
    snoze
    Level 12  
    yes, you are right, the chimney was a bit leaky. I admit, I built it myself, so there were some shortcomings. After sealing and burning the chimney, it works properly.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the installation of a goat stove in a gazebo, focusing on issues of smoke leakage and chimney performance. The user reported smoke escaping into the room despite a functioning chimney, leading to a gray atmosphere. Responses highlighted potential causes such as inadequate chimney height, insufficient air supply, and blocked ventilation grilles. Recommendations included sealing the basement inlet to prevent "left air" from weakening the draft, ensuring proper chimney height, and checking for blockages. The user successfully resolved the issue by sealing the inlet and clearing the ventilation grilles, which improved the stove's performance. Additional participants shared similar experiences and troubleshooting tips, emphasizing the importance of chimney integrity and proper fuel usage.
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